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Title: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 23, 2009, 08:57:00 PM
So I took my set up into the local archery shop which deals with some trad gear and asked for some help with bareshafting my arrows.  I wanted a set up that would maximize penetration for hunting (particularly hogs).  I shoot a Horne Combo 56@28 with Beman MFX classic 340 spine with 100 grain brass inserts and 250 grain points/BH.  Depending on the length we end up with they will be between 650-700g.  He thinks they are too heavy but I'd like some feedback from you guys.  I'm going to fletch a few and take them back in so we have a comparison group to work with.  Thanks for the feedback.

Zane
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: drewsbow on June 23, 2009, 09:03:00 PM
I think you are in good shape . I shoot 840 gr out of a 42@28 but 48@30 my draw length  recurve and love them. If they shoot good don't worry about it. Drew
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 23, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
Thanks Drew, it didn't seem unreasonable but he seemed to think so.  In fact, it seemed inline with much of what I've read by Ashby and OL.
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Post by: vermonster13 on June 23, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
SO they'll be between 11.6 and 12.5 grains per pound. Unless you can't hit your spots, they aren't too heavy to me. I shoot plenty of arrows that GPP on my faster bows and they fly fine out to 30yds(far as I can shoot at my house).
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Post by: Mo. Huntin on June 23, 2009, 09:07:00 PM
It is just what you want to shoot bud.  Some say they will penetrate better.  Some will say that your arrow may drop like a rock after 20 yards. A lot of people like to use the 10 grains per pound of draw weight theory. Best thing to do would be to try a couple and make your own judgement.  Good luck bud
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Post by: Mo. Huntin on June 23, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
Dang you guys are all over that.
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Post by: J-dog on June 23, 2009, 09:12:00 PM
56 should have no trouble slingin those arras.
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 23, 2009, 10:29:00 PM
Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback.
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Post by: robtattoo on June 23, 2009, 11:32:00 PM
Just a quick topic change, if I may; What's your drawlength?
Only reason I ask, is that I have the exact same bow drawing 63#@30" (57#@28) & I found that the 340 MFX were slightly too stiff, even at full length with the same insert & point weight. I ended up with a 400 spine, cut to 30-1/2" to get a perfect bareshaft. Comes in at 710gn

Weight-wise, I'd say you are right on the money   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: Chris Wilson on June 23, 2009, 11:55:00 PM
Personally, I think the arrow weight is a bit over kill for North American game but, if you're happy with they way they fly, it's all good.  They'll do the job.
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: clayton95 on June 24, 2009, 12:03:00 AM
I am shooting MFX 340's out of my bow and they weigh just under 800 grains in all.  My draw is 31 inches though and it seems to shoot plenty fast.  They really hit hard. I think that you should go with them.  The penetration on game should be great.
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Post by: Jesse Peltan on June 24, 2009, 12:51:00 AM
If they are tuned correctly you should go with them. If the tuning is wrong the extra weight won't help penetration much.
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 24, 2009, 12:59:00 AM
Chris, I would agree that it would be overkill for Whitetail but I'm concerned more about penetration on hogs.  I do believe that a well placed shot on a hog doesn't require that much weight, but it's such a smaller kill zone and I find myself shying away from the shoulder area with lighter weight and I end up hitting too far back.  It may be more of a psychological aid but if it works...
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: Bjorn on June 24, 2009, 01:15:00 AM
That's quite a reasonable weight range in my opinion. Do you draw a measured 28" or more? For example, if you only draw 26" you are too heavy.
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: TexasStick81 on June 24, 2009, 01:31:00 AM
I draw 27 1/2
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Post by: Apex Predator on June 24, 2009, 04:58:00 AM
Sounds great to me, but I lean towards heavier personally.
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Post by: ron w on June 24, 2009, 09:31:00 AM
I shoot 51-54# bows with 725gr arrows,you sound like your ready to kill some pork!!!
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Post by: Russ Clagett on June 24, 2009, 09:55:00 AM
I'll bet the bow loves 'em, nice and quiet, no vibtation, no need for silencers, and you can see 'em flying steady and true till they slam the target.

What's not to like? Go with it. Put a sharp razor on the front and shoot it totally thru a hog.
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Post by: George D. Stout on June 24, 2009, 02:09:00 PM
I would simply base it on how you like them and how they shoot for you.
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Post by: BradLantz on June 24, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
I got a 52# and shoot 700 gr weighted carbons
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Post by: Pat B. on June 24, 2009, 02:13:00 PM
Overspined, I think...
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: 30coupe on June 24, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Pat B.:
Overspined, I think...
I agree!
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: George D. Stout on June 24, 2009, 11:22:00 PM
350 grains up front takes away a lot of spine from that .340, and, depending on the length you end up with, makes it about a .500.  So I doubt very much that you are over spined.  If you get good flight and can stand the weight, then be happy and do it 8^).
Title: Re: Is my set up too heavy?
Post by: vermonster13 on June 25, 2009, 06:48:00 AM
That bow is pretty quick(he got it from me). I'd be more inclined to think he'll need to lose a little point weight.
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Post by: Elk whisperer on June 25, 2009, 11:56:00 AM
I would say 400 would work better, I shoot 56@29.5 31 in arrow with 300 up front.
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Post by: Bill Turner on June 25, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
I've never talked with an archery shop owner that did not want to emphasize speed and trajectory over weight and penetration. Especially if the majority of their business comes from compound sales. Your bow should handle your current set-up just fine. Hogs and deer should watch out for you. Good luck and "keep'um sharp".