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Title: can you paint carbons
Post by: huey on May 06, 2009, 10:06:00 PM
One of my buds wants his carbons dolled up like my woodies, so I told him I would check and see how you guy's were doing it. He still uses training wheels, but shows interest in the trad gear. His big excuse is distance, but I think he will come around. Is wraps the only way,or can someone explain the process of making carbons look good.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: Over&Under on May 06, 2009, 10:08:00 PM
I don't crest mine fancy like but have crested them with appliance epoxy from a rattle can and that has work very well.  My dad has painted some of his carbons with fancy cresting, and they have all turned out very well.  I think he used Testors paint.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: huey on May 06, 2009, 10:13:00 PM
Do you put any finish on top of the paint. thanks over & under
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: Over&Under on May 06, 2009, 10:21:00 PM
I don't think my dad did, and I never did over mine.  It might be a good idea though for durabliity.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: R.W. on May 07, 2009, 12:15:00 AM
"Capped" my carbons with lacquer spray paint, and crested with lacquer paint.

These arrows have stood up fairly well, IMOHO.

Wipe your shafts down with a rag moistened with acetone or lacquer thinner, to remove any oils or waxes, before you paint.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: wtpops on May 07, 2009, 12:17:00 AM
Here is some i did a while back. These are Gold tips
   (http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/wtpops/IMG_1905.jpg)
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: slivrslingr on May 07, 2009, 01:01:00 AM
RW
What kind of glue did you use to fletch?  I tried laquer and both fletch-tite and superglue ate through the paint making it difficult to keep the fletches in place.

WT,
Those are classy looking!  Nice work!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: Brently on May 07, 2009, 01:28:00 AM
I have dipped carbon arrows in Bohing laquer and crested them with Bohing crest paint, then used arrowmate glue to glue the feathers on with, they have all lasted several years with no problem.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: A.S. on May 07, 2009, 06:23:00 AM
Here's my "recipe".

Spray the base cap with a spray lacquer, crest with Testor's or similar hobby paint, then spray 3 or 4 clear coats with Minwax Polycrylic or Krylon clear.

Fletch using Duco or Fletchtite Platinum.

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w3/bowcrazy_photos/friend.jpg)
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: BigJim on May 07, 2009, 06:33:00 AM
When I had more time to beautify my shafts, I put solid wraps on them and then painted with bohning crest paint. I also painted on the bare shaft with a few extra stripes. It always covered better on the wraps.

BigJim
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on May 07, 2009, 09:12:00 AM
Clean with acetone.

Cap and crest.

Clear coat with Minwax spray poly.

Fletch with Loctite Superglue Gel.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: WestTnMan on May 07, 2009, 04:09:00 PM
Yes. Spray paint and minwax sealer on the GT's. I now have CE Heritages and the finish is slicker. I haven't tried painting them yet but arrow wraps work fine. Just note, Goat Tuff will fade a yellow arrow wrap to white. Be careful with the glue if you use colored EZ Crest wraps. So far the wraps have proved very durable.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: OkKeith on May 07, 2009, 04:57:00 PM
Huey,

I cap paint and crest all of my carbons (black and wood grain alike). I use nothing but testors brand model paints because they are easy to get near by and fairly inexpensive.

I use painters tape to mask the area of the arrow not to be painted then base coat with flat white. Then I move up on to the white after it is dry so I can crest over a white surface and spray on the color (I like Competition Orange).

After this is dry I remove the tape and crest with the model paint (thinned just a little bit). I have never done a clear coat, and have yet to have any problems.

I fletch with the fletch tape. I have found that the liquid super glue works better than the gel for the drop at the front and back of the feather.

This has worked for me, all the other advice is excellent, just figure out what you like to do.

Heres a pic of some of my arrows.

OkKeith

(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/OkKeith/SD530745.jpg)
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: nkw880 on May 07, 2009, 05:41:00 PM
my brother just dipped his buddies and it looked fine
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: R.W. on May 07, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
I did my fletching with Bohning fletching tape, and a dab of Fletchtite Platinum to seal down the leading and trailing ends.

I tried the crazy glue bit, too, with the same results as you mention.

R.W.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: East Coast archer on May 07, 2009, 09:33:00 PM
I crested some CX Heritage shafts last year with the water based cresting paint that Bob from Whispering Wind sells and sealed over the crest with one coat of Minwax water based poly brushed on and they have held up well.  Fletched over the second crest with Bohning Fletch Tite Platinum and feathers have held up.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: wtpops on May 07, 2009, 09:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by slivrslingr:
RW
What kind of glue did you use to fletch?  I tried laquer and both fletch-tite and superglue ate through the paint making it difficult to keep the fletches in place.

WT,
Those are classy looking!  Nice work!    :thumbsup:  
Thank you.
Fletch tape man fletch tape.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: Billy on May 07, 2009, 09:51:00 PM
Sometimes you don't have to be be traditional...
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/redwinghunter/arras.jpg)

Ace Hardware spray paint and blue masking tape. Fletch tape and spot of superglue.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: paleFace on May 07, 2009, 10:18:00 PM
here are some trad heavies that i whipped up.  used krylon spray for the crown and latex for the crest, then covered with a coat of poly.

  (http://www.burnhamphotography.com/galleries/events/photos/wesgallery/roughmountain2008-218arrows.jpg)
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: huey on May 08, 2009, 07:35:00 AM
Sounds like, as long as I get them clean I can treat them like my woodies. Will duco hold on the carbons?
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: Brian P. on May 08, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
Been dipping and cresting carbons for a couple years. I use Bohning paints for all of it. A couple quick dips in gasket laquer to seal the crest (water base poly would work well too)

Fletch with Duco, and I have never had a problem.

BP
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: joe skipp on May 08, 2009, 11:58:00 AM
Dipping carbons no problem...except for Arrow Dynamics. The nock end is too small to accept the standard "plugs" that fit CE's, Gold Tips etc...
The only way to dip the AD's (which I did today) was to install the nock adapters and use a 9/32 glue on nock. My arrows for the St Judes Auction will be crown dipped.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: huey on May 08, 2009, 12:05:00 PM
Man I love this site.
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: Gordy on May 09, 2009, 10:51:00 AM
I'll second the appliance epoxy for a tough cap.  I'm not sure if they still carry avacodo green or harvest gold anymore though.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: RonL on May 09, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
I clean mine with denatured alcohol, prime with Rust Oleum primer, then 2 coats of white Rust Oleum. I crest with Testors  and clear coat the whole thing with Minwax water based poly I crest on with a ½ in brush. Fletch with Duco.
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/Ron22/BWandarrows.jpg)
Title: Re: can you paint carbons
Post by: Foxtail on May 09, 2009, 01:40:00 PM
Here's a few that I am about to start cresting. Goldtips and Arrow Dynamics, capped with Testors spray paints. Testors have a great range of colours, with a fine selection if you are not into the flash bright colours. Once I have these crested, I'll hit them with a clear Testors satin coat, then fletch.
(http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww239/longpoint/04.jpg)