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Title: How trad do you go???
Post by: Willrett on May 06, 2009, 07:30:00 PM
I personally plan on going as trad as possible more on the primitive side of things. I'm not say stone tools or anything but leaning more towards middle ages type items. I will be going with leather and wool clothes and items. Here is a link with the general idea of what I will be going for.

http://www.sthubertsrangers.org/new_page_3.htm

Let me know what you guys think.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: texbow2 on May 06, 2009, 07:35:00 PM
I don't look good in tights
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Post by: joevan125 on May 06, 2009, 07:37:00 PM
YIKES
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Post by: reddogge on May 06, 2009, 08:53:00 PM
It reminds me of buckskinning but 200 years prior.  In the east they are recreating the F&I war, Rev war era and in the west they still are doing the mountain man era.

I say do what you enjoy, enjoy what you do, life's short.
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Post by: jacobsladder on May 06, 2009, 10:44:00 PM
i notice a few of the faces are tradgangers...
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Post by: BEN on May 06, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
At least you weren't showing off in a loincloth and  breeches!  :scared:   Now That's going back!!
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: vermonster13 on May 06, 2009, 10:48:00 PM
That looks Medieval to me. If it's what makes it fun for you then go for it.
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Post by: tarponnut on May 06, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Cool.
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Post by: Hubertus on May 06, 2009, 11:28:00 PM
Of course I think it's cool. (Just see my screen name.)
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Post by: Zog on May 06, 2009, 11:35:00 PM
Wow - that's getting in to it alright!  If I was going that far back in time I think I would have to bring toilet paper!
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Post by: shade seeker on May 06, 2009, 11:37:00 PM
go for it all the way into the deep green forrests, life is short.
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Post by: Brian Krebs on May 07, 2009, 04:32:00 PM
Zog - back then real men used live chipmunks.
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Post by: NorthernArcher on May 07, 2009, 08:54:00 PM
Nice!  Not exactly my era of interest, but I'm all for going back and re-creating a simpler time.  Isn't that what 'traditional' archery is all about?

I shoot an osage selfbow and primitive arrows, my  quiver, glove, & arm guard are leather, and I am planning to make myself a nice buckskin outfit as soon as I have the time to tan a few hides.  I think it would be awesome to venture into the woods wearing wool & buckskins, carrying primitive archery gear.  But then, I'm a bit of a cave man  ;)

Go for it... have fun... life is short.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Chris O on May 08, 2009, 10:19:00 AM
looks pretty cool to me. Its good to see some fellow tradgangers on there too! I
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Post by: Chris O on May 08, 2009, 10:20:00 AM
Anyone know what kind of broadheads they used for the big game?
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Willrett on May 08, 2009, 07:10:00 PM
I would like some buckskin pants. I still plan on making my self a quiver and some arrows.
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Post by: LPM on May 08, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
Hey,  It's all good if your having fun

Just don't come down with the Plague!
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Post by: GingivitisKahn on May 08, 2009, 08:35:00 PM
If you dress like that and we see you, we're certainly going to expect a hearty 'What ho!' or 'Welcome to Sherwood!' or something.

:-D
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Mo. Huntin on May 09, 2009, 01:37:00 AM
I tried so hard not to say anything but that really bothers me.  That reminds me of an article in traditional bowhunter where several guys went hunting naked.  This stuff is freaking me out. How can you stand over a dead animal dressed like that and it not seem like it is cheapend a little. Tape that and put it on the outdoor channel and the world is going to say this is getting out of hand.  I am sorry but that is how I feel.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Mo. Huntin on May 09, 2009, 01:41:00 AM
If you are going to kick me off for that P.M. me  because I still need to update my E-mail.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Willrett on May 09, 2009, 09:19:00 AM
I can see your point but do you not think that what actually cheapens the whole experience is wearing specially designed clothing that makes you completely blend in with any kind of terrain with out thinking. I could go set up a full camo blind wear full modern camo and basically disapear on a trail that my camera seen game moving on or I could hunt like people have long before someone created those items. I have nothing against using anything modern for anyone who wants to use it however I believe that the more challenging something is the more fun it is. I could go drop a deer at a thousand yards with a gun, use a compound so that most of the aiming is done for me, or even use a scoped crossbow but I choose to shoot trad because its not that easy.

But I'm not sure that I can agree that it cheapens the experience to hunt the way our ancestors did. I dont think in a million years (if people still hunt) when everyone has a laser weapons and invisibility cloaks, they will say it cheapens the hunting experience by using today's camo and firearms.

And no I wont kick you everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: champ38 on May 09, 2009, 10:29:00 AM
Interesting...I had no idea that so many where into the Medieval thing(per link above)...really no different than me prefering modern camo though, do whatever makes it fun for you.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 09, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
Guys Guys Guys, whats worng with the way we hunt... I hope u all seen that I am a part of them.... I enjoy all parts of archery and archery history...  Yes there are many people who enjoy the Medieval Hunting.....  We pick are  clothing for the terrain we hunt... what we wear is a 100% better then camo as we do blend in with the back gounds like if we are hunting in the woods where it's green and brown we will wear green and brown clothing... as if u where to out us out there with that on we are hard to pick up in the woods thats what made a Medieval archer's so good... If u put some one out there in camo in the green woods u can pick them up..... U guys just should try Medieval hunting it's a great time and lots of fun.... don't knock it tell you try it kind of thing.......

take care guys,

Cody
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Bowhuntah on May 09, 2009, 01:16:00 PM
Kinda seem like the "trekkies" of the archery world.
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Post by: snag on May 09, 2009, 01:18:00 PM
Sorry, but it just looks silly. I think the deer and elk would laugh at me if I wore that. I agree...NO tights! Not in camp or when riding bicycles.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 09, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
LOL wow u guys think deer and other game care what u wear in the woods.. I would think they would laugh  at all of you who do wear camo.....

Like I say you guys need to try it.....

There has been more game killed in the Medieval times then today.... and the archer's didn't wear camo......
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Capt on May 09, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
It is just different but clothes are clothes.  I think it is just a little different then painting your face and looking like Rambo.  I think it is cool that there are people out there that want to hunt like our ancestors.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: bayoulongbowman on May 09, 2009, 01:26:00 PM
Not my cup tea!!!!!!! But if it works for you , great!... :)
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 09, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/TradBowKid/Cody1.jpg)

(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/TradBowKid/cody2.jpg)

(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/TradBowKid/cody3.jpg)
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 09, 2009, 01:40:00 PM
(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/TradBowKid/Cody4.jpg)

Here a small group of us guys shooitng for the day...

(http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu197/TradBowKid/cody5.jpg)
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: George D. Stout on May 09, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Cody, I think it is neat.  Back in the 50's, guys would dress up in Sherwood garb from time to time to have shoots, etc.  I guess some today are just to prissy to bend to the old style.  Archery is about camaraderie and it is evident that you guys share that; it shows on the faces.

We have become so "modern" oriented anymore that we disdain such practices as silly. Perhaps we have forgotten how to have fun in a sport that is supposed to be fun.   Good job Cody.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 09, 2009, 02:03:00 PM
George thanks my friend... I have some old archery magazine's from the 50s that show guys in there Sherwood grab... It's also for me  has to do with the history of archery as well...

I also know where you are coming from when you say modern.....

Take Care,

Cody
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: snag on May 09, 2009, 02:33:00 PM
I can see wearing plaid wool shirts and stuff. But to look like one of Robin's merry men...? I like getting together for shoots, fellowship, and good times. But to look like a Medevil archer I don't get it. Must be a flaw in my character...prissy...not at all. Just not my cup of tea. If I shot a muzzeloader I wouldn't wear a coonskin cap either. If you like dressing up and thinking in hysterical..I mean historical... terms...great.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 09, 2009, 03:00:00 PM
I understand it ain't every person cup of tea..

Cody
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Willrett on May 09, 2009, 03:08:00 PM
why would plaid wool shirts be different then green or brown solid and how about the wool camo pants that alot of people have why would be be so "crazy" if they were just brown. Basically if you change the color of modern camo solid browns and greens and change plastic buttons to wood or bone its "Hysterical". As Cody said its history, if you choose to shoot a muzzeloader and wear frontiersmen style clothes because its your favorite period whats wrong with that.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: snag on May 09, 2009, 07:54:00 PM
Nothing is "wrong" with it.
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Post by: Swamp Pygmy on May 09, 2009, 08:24:00 PM
Well I'd like to preface this by saying I don't really care personally. But I don't think peoples opposition has been very well articulated so I'll be devils advocate for the sake of argument...

In todays age of people being alienated from hunting, and nature in general, a question people are often left with is: "Why do people hunt?". People really don't know or understand anymore. The reasons people hunt are as diverse as the person hunting I suppose, but the average person is left to make up their mind from fairly little information on a passing stranger. Other than that he is wearing camo, an orange hat, and carrying a bow they don't know anything about you. They might assume something pretty negative, like that you enjoy hurting animals, or they might think something less outrageous like you enjoy a few hours in nature for peace and quiet after months of work in a factory or where ever.

The problem is that a fairly ignorant, but apathetic segment of society (nonhunters) controls all of our destiny as hunters by what they think and vote. When folks see guys dressed in tights and chain mail and referring to themselves in medieval character names people chuckle and think they are eccentric, but living out their fantasies isn't hurting anything but their social status. But when they find out they aren't going to archery ranges, but are going to hunt animals. Not only that but they have higher levels they reach by killing more animals like characters in a Role Playing Game. It starts looking like maybe it isn't harmless, maybe it's adults living out fantasies at the animals expense. Given what people see about canned hunting operations and so forth you can imagine what snowballs from this direction of thought about hunters and hunting. It's better they stay apathetic than to have them become anti hunters.

Hunters have a lot of pragmatic and realistic reasons why it is okay to hunt. In almost every instance wild animals lead a much nicer life than those raised to be slaughtered. Our dollars make it economically viable to preserve the habitat for these very creatures and thus actually protecting their herd numbers by being able to hunt them. A bulldozer can do much more damage in a month than the most unscrupulous hunter ever could in his lifetime. But these and the other more intellectual ideas take time to explain, and they can fall on deaf ears if people have set opinions and have something memorable to hold onto like a guy shooting squirrels out a tree with a home made cross bow while dressed like robin hood. When people see the average hunter they have to guess why he hunts, and maybe even ask him. When they see you dressed like that they have already made up their minds and may even purposely avoid talking to you, much less giving your opinions much credence if they do.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 09, 2009, 08:28:00 PM
Guys the last thing I wanted to do is start an argument.. very well put Swamp Pygmy
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Post by: Leo L. on May 09, 2009, 08:57:00 PM
Wow, reading these posts really tells you how much people are so in touch with the modern world and are so lost about the ways of the past.  I don't see anyone in the picture Cody posted wearing tights.  I would love to someday be able to head into the woods wearing clothing which I've made myself from leather I gathered myself.  I'm not talking every hunting trip, but it would be an enjoyable trip into the past, kind of like a time machine.  I don't care for the modern camo anymore, to me it's just a brilliant marketing strategy which obviously worked.  Animals don't see colors in the same way that we do.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: George D. Stout on May 09, 2009, 11:27:00 PM
I have friends who go to the medieval gatherings; they dress the part, and these festivals get bigger each year.  I think we can try to cerebralize things to eternity and still be way off target.  It's better to enjoy the friendship of those who are of like ilk and to heck with anyone who doesn't "get it."

I wonder what they thought of it in 1953 when they showed it in Archery Magazine. Back then it was guys and gals enjoying life and a sport that has recently become something much different I fear.  Archery is more then bowhunting, and it may pain you to know that there are many more archery who don't hunt, than do.  

Bravo to you and your friends Cody.  Stop by sometime and we'll break open a keg of ale, and get away from these high-strung (pun intended) city boys 8^).
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 10, 2009, 12:08:00 AM
Well George u and the boys can open the keg.. As I still have one more year before I can drink.. So I will stay with soda for now....  Yes sir if I am ever down in your neck of the woods I will stop by and say hello...

U take Care my friend,

Cody
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: GRINCH on May 10, 2009, 12:16:00 AM
We all have our different styles,I personally don't get into it but appreciate those that do,what ever makes you happy and is good clean fun is excellent.I'm glad that we are as diverse as we are always leaves room for a new experience.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 10, 2009, 10:17:00 AM
We sure do we all have our different styles which make archery so great.....

Cody
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Post by: straitera on May 10, 2009, 10:53:00 AM
Hey...Friar Tuck (Cody)!! That's some bad garb there! Being a history buff I like it although I'd not likely wear it myself. But, I don't wear camo either. I've always said this sport should be fun first & foremost. Above all, respect the animals you hunt. You have impressive character for a man so young. If it's fun for you then do it. We older guys can live vicariously through you & your merry men...to a time we might have done the same thing.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: snag on May 10, 2009, 11:10:00 AM
Who said anything about an "argument"? When did just voicing an opinion become an argument? Wow, I thought this was a bunch of archers discussing archery. But I guess the new rules are if you dissent in your opinion you are arguing. Ok, I get it now and will leave my opinions to myself. As far as modernized. You bet. If we can do things better today from trial and error and the use of modern materials I'm for it. Does it mean that I don't appreciate the past and the ways of our forefathers...no, of course not. I like making and shooting selfbows and wood arrows. I want to learn to knap arrowheads. But dressing up in period clothing looks silly to me. If it is what you like, as I've said, go for it. Sorry I and others with different opinions were not accepted....what's the word...tolerance. I guess tolerance only works if you agree with others. Interesting.
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Post by: Willrett on May 10, 2009, 11:11:00 AM
And for me as of yet I have not taken any game. I have spent several times out walking in the woods with my bow just watching, listening, and relaxing.

The purpose of this post wasn't to argue but rather find out the range people choose to go in their traditional or primitive archery. Its good to see the wide range from just using a trad bow all the way up to Cody and myself dressing like our ancestors.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 10, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
Willrett U also wear grab great man.... what make bow wood bow do you shoot..

Take care,

Cody
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 10, 2009, 12:31:00 PM
If you guys want to see many guys and girls in grab u should go to some of the archery shows in England as 98% of people that go to them wear grab as it;s just a way of life and not only that but there history of the pople who made England.... What is it today and know one thank's it's funny... Dose any one think it's funny of how half of the Kid's here in the U.S wear holes in there pants and I am not bad talking them but I am sure there are some moms and dad's on here that have young kids and teens that do.. it's a why of life... I don't wear grab every time I go hunting or fishing I don't go shopping with it on..

I just enjoy it for the history and for fun....

Take care guys,

Cody
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Post by: The Whittler on May 10, 2009, 08:34:00 PM
Good for you Cody, have fun the way you want and not the way someone else says/thinks you should.

I see nothing wrong with dressing up in period clothes, have fun and enjoy.
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Post by: broketooth on May 10, 2009, 09:07:00 PM
cody, you got my respect man. i think its cool what you do with the medeivel hunt crowd.it takes guts.i myself am of interest of a different era but thats for a whole different thread. but i still like everything that is history and i like to learn about everything history especially about my viking heritage. and i also agree with you since when has any game animal cared about what kind of clothing you were wearing when you shot or shot at them. a game animal usually smells , or hears our noisy selves to alert them of our presence first then looks for a visual to conferm their suspicions of danger. modern day camo would not have been invented if the u.s. had not participated in the vietnam war after learning from the enemy. and this fact is just a little off key for lack of a better term because i also knowthat the scottish also invented the guillie suit. soin light of loosely facted knowledge of modern camo . you got my vote cody keep at it. i for one have no interest in modern camo any more im goin fred bear style this year. maybe in the future i will venture into hunting in a certain era type garb.  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 10, 2009, 09:40:00 PM
Thanks guys....
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Post by: NightHawk on May 10, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
Sorry, but it looks dorky!!. I've watched some of the sci events or whatever they're called. Not my cup of tea, nor do I understand why someone would want to play make believe and yes you're playing make believe.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Cody Roiter on May 11, 2009, 12:13:00 AM
We are not the same as the SCI...  and I am sorry to say we are not playing make believe...There is some thing you are missing from it the history of it all....what started archery the longbow, Good friends and the whole nine yards...
Can I ask u do u wear camo into the woods to hunt game which looks dorky to me u guys look like your playing GI Joe with all that camo on..?
I understand it's not every ones cup of tea which is cool with me...
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Ben Maher on May 11, 2009, 03:05:00 AM
Cody....
i think the whole thing is way cool.I reckon it'd be a great experience and heck of a good and satisfying way to hunt. what bow ya flinging with in the photo's ? i bet someday soon you'll drop harvest yourself a great red stag and that'll shut a whole lot of the naysayers up.
if i had to explain "trad bowhunting" to a bunch of non hunters...i'd  have a easier time explaining it with you guys as an example rather than the 'head to camo covered in fake scent' path some follow. each is as valid as each other but i like the way guys and girls do your thing...
good luck to ya bro....

cheers

Ben in OZ
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: String Cutter on May 11, 2009, 03:49:00 AM
Can't do it myself... If I snagged my pantyhose just one time while hunting I think I would just go off.LOL
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: NightHawk on May 11, 2009, 08:41:00 AM
Some guys need to move out of moms basement and get a girl friend sheees.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: James Wrenn on May 11, 2009, 09:00:00 AM
Hey if someone is having fun I am all for it.It might be fun to get all decked out and look silly at times.I think I will wait untill halloween to put on my panty hose however.  ;)
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: Willrett on May 11, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
I think some people need to think a little. I myself have a wife and child and I am still into it. So lets forget that anyone ever lived and dressed like this before in the world, oh wait if they never lived and hunted like this they would have died and we would not be having this discussion. By some of your guys thinking civil war reenactment groups are a joke, some groups live like that for weeks at a time. How about all the native American reenactments or rendezvous those people are dorky to. Any one can pick apart anything that they don't like or understand, its easy to do.

Nighthawk are you a perfect member of society that doesn't do anything that others disagree with? You dress like everyone thinks you should and act like everyone thinks you should? NO that's the simple answer every one is different. We do what we enjoy and some people don't like it.

And to "make believe" is to have an imagination and that is creative. If no one had an imagination in the world how dull would it be? Not all of your favorite movies or books are real. This web site is part of the internet that was created by some dorky guys with an imagination.
Title: Re: How trad do you go???
Post by: rabbitman on May 11, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
OK guys...this one has been beat to death on both sides and we really don't need name calling on this site, so this thread is closed.