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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: oneshot-onekill on April 24, 2009, 10:48:00 AM
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I am looking to get an ACS and looking for opinions. I draw 30" so what length bow would you recommend? Thanks for all your input.
Terry
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I beleave A&H will recommend a 64" for your 30" draw. Contact them they will be more than happy to answer any questions you have, they are great to work with.
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I got one about 6 months ago and have been shooting longbows for over 30 years. I can tell you I honestly have not shot a better bow bar none. I am far more accurate overall with my ACS than any other bow I have ever shot. I have owned over 40 custom bows over the years and would highly recommend them. Get them to help you and you can't go wrong.
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I echo Ol Man's thoughts. I've been shooting sticks for more than 40 years and have shot most of the good ones out there. Just ordered my second ACS. Mine are 64 inches and I draw 28 inches. Though a 64-inch bow will handle a 30 inch draw, a 66-inch would be more comfortable. If you have a 30 inch draw, you're probably a fairly tall/large person. A few extra inches of bow length will hardly be noticeable. Be sure to get advice from the A&H folks as well. Good luck.
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The A&H team will advise you on your questions of bow and drawlength-their customer service is excellent. My son and I share 4 of their bows and have a 5th on order.
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Make sure you get a stringer that has cups on both ends. I had a couple bad experiences using a Selway stringer in the dark in IL. When hunting public land in IL the bow must be rendered non-shootable until you reach your point of destination to hunt and before you leave.
For me the only way I could figure to render it non-shootable was to string it when I arrived and unstring it when I left. The stringer's rubber piece on the upper limb slipped off on me 3 times resulting in near dry fire conditions. A Skookum stringer with cups on both ends solved the problem.
Bill
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Don't do it man! don't do it! you'll be spoiled and all your other bows will sit and collect dust. I picked up an ACS a couple months ago and haven't shot any of my other bows since! They are sweet shooting bows. Mine is 64" and I draw it out to 29.5" with no problems at all!!
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I've got a CX 58#@28'.... I agree with Barry, be careful - once you pick one up, your other bows will get lonely! :knothead:
Jokes aside, after searching for a keeper bow for 3 years I think I've found it!!! :archer: Not only that, but the staff at ACS are very helpfull and top notch!
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I draw 29" and have owned 2 64" ACS-CX and 1 66". I just ordered a new one (will be my 4th) from A&H, 66", 45# @ 28", 14" metal riser. There is not a lot of difference, but I like the 66" better at my draw length. If you get a 64" you will think you made the right choice, just don't ever shoot a 66". ;)
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Here's another question for you guys shooting them.....their web site says you can go down in draw weight and still get the performance..are you finding this to be true?
Thanks for all the good input....I'm a bowaholic and will never go thru a 12 step program..cause I'm no quiter...LOL
I am a recurve guy though and after trying about 4 different LB's and have always gone back to the curve...maybe this will be the one.....ya just got to love the lines of a LB
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I don't want to redirect this thread but I have an older Adcock (Pre ACS) and I have shot an ACS. In my opinion OL's older limb shoots VERY close to the new one. My Adcock is faster than any of my recurves.... Anyone else notice the similarity on OL's bows?
I think any Adcock I have shot was an excellent bow.
Thanks,
Bill
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I found that at the same draw weight the 64" limbs out performed the 62" limbs by a very noticeable amount. BillW, I had a one pcs ACS, 59@28, 64" and it is the only bow that I sold and wish I hadn't. That bow was just amazing in speed and shootability, basically, shot it's self. My remarks above about limb length are based on a 3 pcs.
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Originally posted by oneshot-onekill:
Here's another question for you guys shooting them.....their web site says you can go down in draw weight and still get the performance..are you finding this to be true?
Thanks for all the good input....I'm a bowaholic and will never go thru a 12 step program..cause I'm no quiter...LOL
I am a recurve guy though and after trying about 4 different LB's and have always gone back to the curve...maybe this will be the one.....ya just got to love the lines of a LB
Absolutely! My favorite of the 3 I have owned was a 66" 41# with metal riser. I shot that bow, by far, better than any bow I have ever owned. I would not hesitate to hunt Whitetails with a 41# (44# @ my 29"DL) ACS-CX. The bow I just ordered is exactly the same, but 45# (48# @ my DL). I think it will be the perfect weight for me hunting whitetails. I certainly don't want to start an arguement on the subject of shooting lighter poundage, but I will say this. I shoot a lighter bow more accurately and I believe this to be the case with most shooters. I do think you need a reasonably heavy arrow for hunting, but I would rather have a lighter arrow through the lungs than a heavier one in the shoulder. The flatter the bow casts the longer my effective range is. Everything is a tradeoff to some degree, but IMO, the ACS-CX gives me the best and most effective hunting setup of any bow I have tried.
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Does anyone shoot the 58" 3pc? Never hear anything about them and wonder how they shoot. Everyone always has 62 and 64" ACS's. I wouldn't mind having a 58" 48# @ 28.
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I have a number of 66" A&H bows and love them. In fact, they are all I shoot and have been fortunate enough to kill quite a lot of game with them in the last couple of years. I shoot in the mid 40's and my arrows blow through deer and hogs for the most part.. They do spoil you, grin... And the crew at A&H are unbeatable.
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it will be the last bow you ever try!
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There is a downside that we normally try to warn customers about. Whenever you have one in your hands you immediately become irrestible to members of the opposite sex. It can be a hassle sometimes.
If you're single with your hook in the water then fine. But if you're a handsome devil (like me) and happily married then it's a real hassle. My wife understands it's the bow and nothing I'm trying to do. But nonetheless everyone should be forwarned about this unintended consequence.
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Sure glad I'm wearing these high rubber boots when I read that John. :bigsmyl: I've got a 64" 3 piece folks and it's really a performer...smooth and quick.
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Dang John we have the same problem with our Orion. LOL
As a bowyer, I will say you will not go wrong with a bow from A&H. I have a history with the company and know for a fact that the bows being built today are the best ACS designed bows ever built.
Mike
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Terry, when A&H first started making them I bought one...didn't care for it at all, I don't have big hands but to me it felt like the grip was way to small and not comfortable, I didn't keep it for long. When they came out with there recurve riser I started looking around for one, thinking I would give them another try. finally found a used one with 62" limbs making a 64" bow, I only draw about 27.5". To me the recurve riser made a world of difference, the grip is very nice, and the bow shoots great. just my .02
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I have a 14" Zebrawood 64" 48@30, a 16" Cocobolo RC 64" 50@30 and a 14" Bocote 66" 50@30. You won't find a better shooting longbow. Fast, stable, shock free and deadly accurate. With my 30" draw I prefer the 64" bow with a 14" riser. With a 450gr arrow I get 200 fps +/- 2 or 3 fps @ my 30 inch draw. Draw force curve is a steady 2 pounds per inch as far back as you can pull it.
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John...by the looks of your pic we are in about the same boat looks wise..so I should probably check with the wife to make sure she won't be jealous LOL
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I had occasion last week to meet up with John Havard, the "H" in A&H. And I got to shoot a 16" riser, 64" ACS . . . first with 47# limbs and then with 53#ers.
They not only shoot faster than other bows of similar poundage, but they're smoother too. Nothing like an ACS!
Mr. Havard, by the way, is a terrific guy. Soft-spoken, low-key, and a wealth of knowledge. He's an engineer by training and inclination AND a real gentleman, the kind of person you'd want to deal with.
Mark Milinovich
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john
thats the funniest thing i've ever heard!!!
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If anyone has one they would trade I have a ton of bows in exellent condition I would really make it worthwhile. Please! 3piece wood handle 50-55#.
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I have another question....which riser length? i have always struggled with a longbow staying consistant enough to hunt with...has anyone tried the rc model? Thanks so much for the input guys.
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I just recived an RC riser last Thursday and so far im liken it very much, ive been a recurve, high wrist shooter most my life and this riser fits the bill very nicely
(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/wtpops/sdc15279.jpg)
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Those RC risers are gorgeous!
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Pat B. is being modest. He kills more animals with his A&H in a year than most will kill with their bows in a career. This is NOT an overstatement. It helps that he can put the arrow in the exact spot where he looks. As far as my opinion: I have an A&H as well and really like it too. I have some light limbs 49# at 28 and (like yourself)I shoot 30". Very nice bow and very quiet. I have a heavier set on order that I will take to Africa in September (62#). You can't go wrong with these bows and the guys provide good customer service as well.
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John from sipsey river has a 58" ACS with the metal handle. He draws about 29" and has no problems with the shorter length. I shot it and really don't notice any difference from my 62".
Both would get a 10 from me. By far the best shooting bow I have ever shot.
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One shot: Your question might be more about riser weight than length. One thing to keep in mind about the ACS risers is that there's a fair amount of fiberglass in them, and, since fiberglass is heavier than wood, that translates into a little more riser weight, which in turn has a lot to do with contributing to stability when you shoot the bow. Regardless of length, ACS risers are small/slender, but still have enough weight for good stability. I like the longbow feel and look that the shorter, 14-inch riser provides. It's a touch choice, but either will work fine. Good luck.
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I have had several A&H bows. I have had 14" aluminum and wood. Now I am shooting one of their 16" RC risers. I have big hands so the 16" has proved to be a great match. I draw 31" so I stick with 64" limbs on the RC riser. Great shooting bow. My go to bow everytime.
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I too have big hands so was thinking of the rc model...but I really like the look of the 14" with the multiple lines of black....tough choices they are all nice looking....thanks for all the input guys it is greatly appreciated....and thats what makes this site so great....guys willing to share their experience...t
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My best scores ever on 3-D ranges have come with my 58" ACS. Can't wait to try it out in a hunting scenario.