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Title: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: Blasterjdh on April 22, 2009, 05:10:00 PM
Just picked up some Vapor Carbonwood 3000 arrows from a fellow Trad Memeber - Was wondering if the compare to Gold Tips and if so which ones...?

Thanks in advance for your response.

JDH
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: The Whittler on April 22, 2009, 07:54:00 PM
I belive it would be the GTs 7595, but not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: britts2 on April 22, 2009, 09:59:00 PM
55-75
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: Zbone on April 22, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
Are Carbonwoods still being manufactured?
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: Whip on April 22, 2009, 10:14:00 PM
I have some Carbonwood 4000's that spine the same as Gold Tip 55/75's.  

I also have some Carbonwood 3000's (lighter spine) but don't have any lighter Gold Tips.  I believe that 35/55's would be the comparable shaft.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: StickBowManMI on April 22, 2009, 10:16:00 PM
I agree with Whip. I shoot both and they are very similar to the Gold Tip Traditionals in 35/55.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: JRY309 on April 22, 2009, 10:16:00 PM
Carbonwood 2000 has a .500 spine,3000 have a .400 spine,4000 have a .350 spine and 5000 have a .300 spine.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: BigJim on April 22, 2009, 10:17:00 PM
Carbonwoods are no longer being made. The 3000 shafts spine similar to a 55/75 (400 spine). I sold the last of the closeout carbonwoods a couple of  months ago.

BigJim
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: Blasterjdh on April 23, 2009, 12:37:00 AM
Thanks for the replies -- saw a few different numbers thrown in - Gold Tip stated they were 400 spine just as BigJim stated ...  I take it that the 55/75 is 400 spine also then ?

Thanks
JDH
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: Bonebuster on April 23, 2009, 06:52:00 AM
I wish they were still made.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: Paul Mattson on April 23, 2009, 07:17:00 AM
Gold Tip bought out Vapor, the makers of Carbon Wood.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: lt-m-grow on April 23, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
BadgerArrow, that makes sense.  I had heard several years ago that CarbonWood "were no longer made" and so I went and bought a bunch.  However I noticed they are still available and I was wondering how that worked.   I shoot the 4000 and like them alot.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: NYRON on April 23, 2009, 12:51:00 PM
There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding labeling and actual spine of carbon arrows. It's very frustrating.

I've been shooting Vapor Carbonwood 3000s for many years and was very disappointed to see them discontinued. Recently I bought a dozen GT 35/55s and a dozen Carbon Express 150s, thinking they would be very similar in spine to the Carbonwood 3000s. Not so. Both the the GTs and CXs appear to be weaker in spine.

Does anyone knwo the actual defelction of a CX Heritage 150? Is there a website that lists carbon arrow deflections?
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: lt-m-grow on April 23, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
NYRON: I've been shooting Vapor Carbonwood 3000s for many years and was very disappointed to see them discontinue.

What am I missing? I just googled and whalla

http://www.bowdiscount.com/blackhawk-vapor-pro-series-carbonwood-arrows.html

http://cgi.****.ca/New-Black-Hawk-Vapor-CarbonWood-Arrows-3000-1-2dz_W0QQitemZ300288164155QQihZ020QQcategoryZ20844QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

And likely one of our sponsors has them too.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: BigJim on April 23, 2009, 02:33:00 PM
The CX Heritage comes in 4 spines
90's  = .530 spine 9.3g per inch
150's = .500 spine 10g per inch
250's = .400 spine 11g per inch
350's = .300 spine 12g per inch

Gold tips come in 4 spines
1535's = .600 spine 8.3g per inch
3555's = .500 spine 8.6g per inch
5575's = .400 spine 9.2g per inch
7595's = .300 spine 11g  per inch

vapor's
2000's = .500 spine 6.9g per inch
3000's = .400 spine 8.9g per inch
4000's = .350 spine 9.9g per inch
5000's = .300 spine 11g. pr

We have a good bit of gold tips, CX Heritage, and vapor 2000 black shafts but carbonwoods are no longer available unless someone has some old stock.

thanks, BigJim
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: Blasterjdh on April 23, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
Thanks so much for the info.... Now I just have to see what my new girl (New Griffin) likes and feed my Shrew & Centuar a steady diet.  Just learning the carbon stuff.

Thanks
JDH
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: NYRON on April 23, 2009, 02:44:00 PM
Yea, it's true that some vendors still have Carbonwoods in stock, but at some point they will be unavailable.

Thanks, BigJim. That is exactly what I was looking for. I sure wish Carbon arrow makers would come up with meaningful nomencalture for their arrows. I know exactly what a 2018 is and how it comares to a 2016. But, with carbons there is no common system.
Title: Re: Vapor Carobwood/GTs Comparison
Post by: Predator1 on April 23, 2009, 04:17:00 PM
If you look at some of the small print on the 3000's you might see where it says 45-60. I shoot thesae as well out of a 55lb recurve and these shafts appear to shoot a little on the stiff side but shoot good. I have to leave em' full length and put 200grs up front with my 27 1/2" draw.