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Title: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: wapitimike1 on April 19, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
Any body have tuning problems with 8 or 10 strand set ups?
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: bmgarto on April 19, 2009, 06:31:00 PM
Yes I don't think it is as stable for my bow. I went back to the old string.
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: Running Buck on April 19, 2009, 07:11:00 PM
What kind of problem are you having? Every bow I have made a skinny string for I have had to increase spine. I have a couple of 50lbers shooting GT 55/75 w/250 up front.
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: Jeff Strubberg on April 19, 2009, 07:46:00 PM
No problem at all, other than tuning for a harder shooting bow.
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 19, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
imho, all this stuff about trad archery gear is fraught with ambiguities and each of us are unique enuf that experimenting is required ... IF you want relatively optimum performance.

a few dayze ago i retired my 55# mohawk's 12 strand d'02 string and spun one up with 8 strands of the same d'02 fiber.  my results - a somewhat faster/flatter trajectory arrow, good overall stability, no loss of accuracy, and no difference in noise level.  all my strings sport small hush puppy wool string silencers.  this is using a 10gpp carbon arrow.  as always, ymmv.

so, what problem(s) you havin' ?
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: katman on April 19, 2009, 07:59:00 PM
No problems with tuning skinny strings here.

How is your nock fit?
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: wapitimike1 on April 19, 2009, 08:49:00 PM
I have three bows that can all shoot a AXIS/MFX/FMJ 500s at 29"s 175 up front no brass three fletch 5" with  perfect paper. But they all have DYNA 97 I believe. I just recieved a Morrison Shawnee 57#s with 10 strand 8125 and man alive what a mess. It has a 2"+ high slightly left rip(I'm a lefty). I tried a 400 at 29.5 same thing a 250 Carbon express 28" with a 50grn brass insert, same. Messed with lighter points up front and still it goes high. I'm fletching up a FMJ 340 at the moment just to se if could possibly cause that much difference. Could a string really add that sack to a bow? My knocks are very loose on the 8125 so they can't be hanging up. I put a older 97 string on the Shawnee just a bit ago and bingo perfect. I don't know what to do. Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 19, 2009, 08:54:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by wapitimike1:
... I put a older 97 string on the Shawnee just a bit ago and bingo perfect. I don't know what to do. Thanks for the help.
there's yer answer - stick with whatever works best and forget the rest of the hi-tech mumbo jumbo ... unless you wanna spend a lotta time experimentin'.
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: wapitimike1 on April 19, 2009, 09:05:00 PM
I know, I know, so much for those fancy fast strings!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: JEFF B on April 19, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
i have a df97 fast flight string on my #45 and it is only 4 strands and is quicker and quite more than any other string i have and it sure does shoot flatter. im sold on these for sure  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: wapitimike1 on April 20, 2009, 05:20:00 AM
Just shot the FMJ 340 at 29.75 with the same 175 point. Perfect hole at about 3yds. I can't beleive a string adds that much power. The arrow companys must love these guys!!
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: JOKER on April 20, 2009, 06:43:00 AM
Wapitimike1, Sounds like your getting it. When I went from a 12 strand D97 to a 8 strand 8125 I had to go with a stiffer arrow. Steve
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: TomMcDonald on April 20, 2009, 08:14:00 AM
Inconsistencies may occur over a period of a couple of days if that's how you're doing your tuning. Due to the smaller number of strands, you may need to adjust brace more often for the first while. Keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: Rob DiStefano on April 20, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
lots does depend on the string build style - flemish will take more time to 'settle in' than endless, because of the flemish 'twist spring factor'.  

a tight spun endless, using low stretch/creep dyneema, vectran or spectra, will only take a few shots to 'settle in' and then it's all about playing with brace height and nock point location.

with a 'one arm bandit' endless jig, spinning up a perfect string length with very little twists is far and away much easier than hitting the twisty flemish numbers.  

in the weeks to follow, i'll detail the building of a simple 'unistrut' one arm endless jig and provide string spinning details ... hopefully a video, too.
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: Charlie Lamb on April 20, 2009, 10:47:00 AM
That would be very cool Rob!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Thin string tuning problems
Post by: Canadian Idle on April 20, 2009, 11:12:00 AM
Hey Rob, looking forward to seeing that "jig". Thanx,...Lloyd  :notworthy: