I have been seeing this flock of birds since last deer season. I pretty much know where they hang out but I'm not sure where they are roosting. What are the roosting habits of the birds? I found an area of pines with some cedar nearby and saw areas where the leaves had moved moved away by what appeared to me to be turkey scrathing. In the same area there appeared to be more turkey scat in than in the rest of the property, mostly at the base of trees and sometimes right on top of deer scat. Do they go to the same trees every night? What time of day do they roost? What time do they fly back to the ground? How far away from the roosting spot should I set up? Should I get in the woods an hour before sunrise? Thanks for all the advice!
Brian
I don't know about where you are at, but in Oklahoma I rarely see turkeys roosting in pines or cedars. Usually I see them roosting in large hardwoods with great horizontal limbs for perching. Most of the time, these are located near creek-beds. If you really want to find where the birds are roosting in your area, just break out a good shock call and have at it about dark; owl, hawk, woodpecker, and coyote calls have all worked for me...
Good luck!
They often will roost in the same trees, but not every night from my experience. Sounds like you have probably found an area that they prefer though!
They will go to roost shortly after sundown, and before full dark. In the mornings fly down is usually right after it gets light enough to see good, although sometimes weather might make them stay tucked in bed longer.
Try to set up as close as you can without them being able to see you. They might just fly down into your lap! I like to get in well before good daylight so they can't see me coming in.
i always thought that they roosted only in hardwoods also,until this spring. on opening morning there were several roosted in some 20 plus year old planted pines, so that kinda shot that theory down. i'd say that it is possible that they are roosting where you think they are. like divinecedar said. good luck, you'll need all of that you can get!
If you are finding that much sign in one place you have indeed found a roost. Here in Ohio they like pine trees too. If you don't spook them most of the time they will come there every day. When you go to hunt them you want to stay about 80 yards back so you don't jump them off the roost. Even if its pitch black when you go in don't get to close. They will fly down at first light and fly up right before dark. Divinecedar is right get you a shock call, or just go out in full camo get close to that area and listen for them to fly up. You will be able to here there wings flapping. I must tell you though as the spring season gets later and later gobblers move around a good bit to find breeding hens. So get on him as soon as you can.
Hope this helps,
Bryan Horner
Sometimes I have my best luck by parking sorta close (1/4 to 1/2 mile maybe) to where I think they are, and on a real quiet evening after sunset before full dark I just slam my car door real loud and cup my ears to catch them shock-gobble to it.
There are a couple of maples in my backyard which the turkeys roost in sometimes.
I have seen them roosted in large pines but mostly maple trees.From what I have seen here in NY it seems that they do not roost in the same trees every night.Im no expert but if you get out there right before dark you can get them to gobble on their roost and then youll know for sure.The only problem with that is that by May 1st, at least near me they dont gobble as much as they will earlier in the spring, like now at roosting time.My observations only bud Im sure you will get more opinions.At any rate I wish luck to your boys and you.Im sure youll have fun.
Ive them them roost in pretty much every type of tree, but ussually its Pine, Spruce or Hemlock around here. Usually on a hillside.
And I dont think they have any particular desire to go to the same trees every night. Most turkeys seem to know all the roosting spots in their range and just go to which ever is closest to them at the end of the day.
The pines I'm talking about are at the base of a hill Dartwick.
Are turkeys as active in the rain as they are in nice weather?
Brian,in 2007 bow season I had our local flock roost on my property in some mature white pines and some maples about 50-60 yards in front of me while I was sitting in my stand.They did it twice in a row,then once more a few days later.And it was the same group of trees.Usually they won't use the same trees like deer sticking to specific bedding areas.But I do notice they stay within the same general area of it.Around here they use whatever trees they're closest to,be they pine,hemlock or hardwood.
From my experience last season,during the rain the birds stay roosted alot longer than you think.I found that out after me and my buddy kicked a jake off the roost after moving positions one morning. :knothead:
Brian, The easiest way is to get up and be at a good listening spot at daylight...they'll tell ya just where they like to roost. Morning is much more reliable than evening...a lot of times they just won't gobble at dusk.
I've left a spot scratching my head in the evening, and returned in the morning to have several gobblers serenading me.....
Get up and listen, and if possible watch where they fly down and head to....might not always be the same, but you'll see tendencies....
It's a lot easier to call a bird to an area that's part of his routine, than one that's out of the way....
I'll say it again...get up and listen...you'll find'um
Good Luck!
Turkey hunting is hit and miss. I have been chasing turkeys now for over ten years. One thing that is true about turkeys, especially gobblers, is that you can't predict them. If they are left alone, they will come back to the same area as long as there is a good food source there. However, spring gobblers will move around like a rutting buck. As far as rain, yes they are active. Go to the fields on a rainy spring day IMO. I have had good luck in the fall season. AS for the spring I only have one jake fan on my wall. It is a learning experience every time I go out.
Horner
Rainy day are the easiest to find birds....they'll seek open areas and are very visable
Here in eastern Kansas they roost alot in hedge,oak and cottonwood along creek bottoms.In the morning right before light you can even shock call them with the horn on the truck. I have them roost in the same general area but, not usually the same trees night after night. Ben
I have area on our property that the birds seem to roost in or near year after year, not exact trees but areas they will roost in almost any tree but they like a horizontial limb they can get up and down easily. Like Curt I find it's good to go listn at daylight for bierds and try to get a pattern down. The mature birds seem to stick to these more than the jakes or toms without hens. Nothing takes the place of watching birds and scouting. I am a good caller but most of my birds especially the 3yr old plus birds with big spurs come from knowing what they do and were they do it. I only call as much as needed and no more, but that all depends on the turkey and his mood, but that I feel only comes with experience and failure. My dad seems to kill some of the biggest birds around most years, he calls very little and uses his knowledge of a particular bird or birds, hehas killed may birds here in VT with spurs near or over 1.5" and weights 22lbs and up wich is big around here. He killed one a few years ago that took 18 days to close the deal. 23.5 lbs, 11.75 beard and 1 11/16" spurs. I hated that bird with a passion. So I would say scout and watch and listen alot changes in a turkeys world this time of year so be ready to adapt and move. long winded but I'm only 30 and have been at this game for 21 years, good and bad. Chris
Trust me when I say, they roost in pines. I hunt a pine ridge and are bothered by them every morning. Some have actually been in my tree with me!
As always great advice on TG. I really appreciate the wealth of knowledge here. This will be my first turkey hunt. After reading these posts I'm convinced that I'm really close to the roost. I am open to all advice so please keep it coming. I see the turkeys in the same area that I saw them in in the fall. There seems to be more of them now. In the fall I had one right outside my blind (5 yards) and didn't even know it until I stuck my head up and he was right there. I see them in the same area now. 4 or 5 times I have seen them fly off and always in the same general area. Are they likely to fly towards their roost if they are close to it?
Do you mean after you spook them?
I'm a newbie Curt. I would follow them during deer season to see how close I could get to them.
A couple times I didn't even know they were there. I came around the corner and they were just a couple steps in front of me. The other day when I was taking pictures they flew across the field to the area where I think they are roosting. I guess the answer is yes, after I spooked them. I've seen them fly about 4 times into the same area of woods.
Keep bumping em and they might not hang out for opening day...try to do your scouting from a distance until May.
Didn't read the whole thread so I'm sure someone has said this but go out on a real quiet evening and sit and listen. You don't have to be very close to them to hear where they fly up. I doubt they are roosting in the cedars. They tend to like more open larger trees. I imagine you found where they are hanging during mid-day.
I've got 2 spots where the turkeys roost year after year. Both spots are near small streams on the high ground. One is a hardwood roost and the other is a softwood roost.
I agree that morning is the best time to pin point them. Get out before light on a clear day and you'll hear them. Keep you distance though, because like Jamie said, you'll educate them real fast.
Curt is also right, they go where they want to go. You need to be where they want to go. Sit on a high watch, a good distance away and glass them. Once you find the roost, find out where they go just after flydown. You want to position yourself so they will pass you by going to their preferred spots.
i have hunted the same area for many years now and the birds i hunt are %90 of the time roosted on a high wooded ledge that over looks a shelf. the other %10 of the time i believe they are still there but just not talking! as has been said, go out early and listen a few days in a row.
In the spring, the flocks you saw in winter will break up and disperse. On my home ground, it's not unusual for there to be no birds on opening day, but they move in with the spring shuffle. The season has been open since mid-March here, but I just worked the first gobbler on Sunday morning. They haven't been here until now. (I spooked him- end of story).
The habitat here is mixed pine and hardwood hills over a cultivated river bottom. They roost in the hills, nearly always near a ridge top. I think they like to get on top of the ridge when they're ready to roost, and fly horizontally to the big branches of a tree that grows down the slope. That way they use less energy getting into the tree. On Sunday, the gobbler was roosted in some big pines, but they roost in hardwoods too. As others have said, if you don't push them too much they return to the same area frequently, but not every night. Imitating a barred owl at last light will sometimes make them gobble from the roost, but morning is more reliable.
It has NOT been my experience that they fly toward their roost when spooked.
Good luck! I'm headed up to Missouri in a couple of weeks, where the beards are thick and the birds are heavy.
Here are some things I've noticed over the years, ymmv. Turkeys like to roost in some of the same general areas, though they may cycle through them depending on which roost is closest to where they are feeding come evening as mentioned. Year after year I set up in the same couple of areas on our farm and have turkeys gobble. There's a bench in the National Forest that I have had the same gobbler (or a series of gobblers) roosting for three years running. (obviously I haven't gotten him yet) I find they also like to roost over water, in pine thickets, and on benches. Tree preference varies hardwood or pines. One year I had a jake roosted on a pine limb on the edge of a field. It was full light and he'd strut back and forth on the limb and gobble but wouldn't fly down. Usually the gobbler roosts near the hens but not together. You'll find that frustrating when you have him gobbling on the limb but when he flies down those hens gather him up and head him away from you. Some people like to get in close to try and prevent this but I find you bump him off the roost if you don't know which tree he's in and can't make a quiet approach. If there's no hens between him and you all you have to be is within earshot of him. They tend to stay on the roost longer in fog and rain or overcast days. When it's rainy they tend to be in fields. On windy days they can be in fields or sheltered bottoms. I think to give them a good field of vision to compensate for not being able to hear danger.
Good advice so far. I find morning much more reliable in terms of gobbling. I can rarely if ever get birds to gobble in the e3vening in my area. Also birds in Maine prefer 10 to 1 white pines to any other roost tree. I have found scouting the week before opening day to be he most productive, and try to get out as many mornings as possible to move around and listen for birds gobbling on the roost. I find birds to be fairly regular unless disturbed. Even year to year I can find birds in the same trees if they are near good strutting areas.