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Title: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: GMMAT on April 03, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
I'm having the antler tips added to my new bow's limbs.  So, I thought I'd maybe get antler limb bolts.

Any downside?  I assume they're only for aesthetics (which is fine).

I've contacted sticshooter about some of his, on referral from my bowyer.

Thanks....and if you have ics of yours (don't go to too much trouble), I'd like to see them.

Jeff
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Downeast on April 03, 2009, 09:52:00 AM
I've got them on my Widow so I don't need tools to assemble at camp.  Don't see a downside.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: amar911 on April 03, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
Jeff,

Frank and Shell make great limb bolts and are wonderful people to deal with. I have two sets they made for me. Aesthetics is the primary reason to get the bolts. A less significant reason is that no allen wrench is required. There is probably a minor weight difference but not enough to even think about. The main disadvantage is having something else sticking out to snag on items like brush or loose clothing. That is generally not a significant concern either. The nice part is that you can change back and forth any time you need to between the antler bolts and the standard bolts. The antler bolts definitely add a great deal to the looks and go well with antler limb tips.

Allan
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on April 03, 2009, 10:02:00 AM
Jeff, I haven't found anything that would be considered a minus. I have had my bow tump over and if not for them I would have some good character marks on my limb butts or riser. The only thing is if you get them you will always have to use them. The threaded bolts are epoxied into your riser and stick up through the limbs. Making it impossible if you ever just wanted to put regular beveled bolts in them.

I think they are a good accent when having the limb tips as you are.

 (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/P1230464.jpg)

 (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/P1230471.jpg)
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Tim Fishell on April 03, 2009, 10:13:00 AM
TJ, did you order your Silvertip with them from Dave?  Are there just treaded studs epoxied into the riser with a heli-coil in the anter burr?  The ones that Sticshooter makes has the bolt epoxied into the antler burr so you can switch between your standard bolts and the antler ones.  

As has been said I have them on my takedowns more for looks but they do serve a function.  It is nice to be able to but your bow together without any tools.  I have never found anything negative about them.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: GMMAT on April 03, 2009, 10:21:00 AM
Question (and thanks for the replies, guys):

Do I need to go ahead and order these and send them to my bowyer (Kevin @ RER) so that he knows what I'll be using?  Or, is that step unnecessary?

Jeff
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Tim Fishell on April 03, 2009, 10:27:00 AM
Nope you shouldn't need to send them to the bowyer.  Just make sure you get the bolts make with the same thread size and pitch as the heli-coil he puts in the riser.  I have been told there are some odd ball out there.  Most of them are 5/16-18 though I believe.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Whip on April 03, 2009, 10:35:00 AM
Jeff,  Frank will know exactly what you need for the RER  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Kip on April 03, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
The only down side in the palmettoes I hunt and other trashy areas they would hang up in vines sticking out as they do.They sure look good though.Kip
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: elkbreath on April 03, 2009, 11:32:00 AM
I've found no downside, I've owned to with them and several without.  I much prefer having them on my bows.  

heres my newest;  bought used from another stellar member oh the gang (BSBD).  

(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn33/elkbreath/antler.jpg)
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Russ Clagett on April 03, 2009, 11:35:00 AM
No downside at all....Frank and Shell are great people, really great, and the limb bolts are gonna make you not want to put the bow down...ever.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: O.L. Adcock on April 03, 2009, 12:00:00 PM
Yep, They hang up on every limb and vine!...O.L.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: owlbait on April 03, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
I have 4 sets from Frank and Shell. The Zipper bows take a different size. There is a lot they can do to customize them too.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on April 03, 2009, 12:58:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Tim Fishell:
TJ, did you order your Silvertip with them from Dave?  Are there just treaded studs epoxied into the riser with a heli-coil in the anter burr?  The ones that Sticshooter makes has the bolt epoxied into the antler burr so you can switch between your standard bolts and the antler ones.  

As has been said I have them on my takedowns more for looks but they do serve a function.  It is nice to be able to but your bow together without any tools.  I have never found anything negative about them.
Tim, the bolts on this one are fixed to the riser and the burrs have the threads in them which I don't like. Not sure if Dave does them all this way or not. I got the bow second hand. Jeff If you do get them don't do it the way mine is make sure the threaded posts are in the antler burrs and not the riser.

They do catch on stuff in the woods which is a head ache sometimes, but if you like them that's a small issue.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: MCNSC on April 03, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
They wont hang up on anything, if you put them on a Black Widow   :)  Plus you can look at them all the time.  I made my own, of course they are not in the same class as those by Stickshooter. Takes a lot of talent to do what he does.
Mike
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: northener on April 03, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
Couple of questions.


Is the area of contact on the antler burr the same as the beveled washers?

Do they scar the limbs as they tighten down?

I agree they look nice but have those concerns.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Bird Dog on April 03, 2009, 01:56:00 PM
I hunt in Florida and as some of the others have said, they catch on everything.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on April 03, 2009, 02:44:00 PM
Jeff, the ones on my silvertip are large and the area they contact is slightly larger than the regular beveled bolts. They are polished down and match the limb flush when tightened so they do not scratch the limbs. I could see though if you ordered some second hand if they didn't screw on flush they may scratch.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: sticshooter on April 03, 2009, 03:27:00 PM
Wow been making these for 6 years and never had anyone tell me they hang up? Maybe if there really big... I mean huge? I hunt with them on my Bunny bow and never had them hang up. but then I am not crawling on the ground.  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: snag on April 03, 2009, 03:45:00 PM
The only downside that I have found is......they look so darned good on my bow I had to get 2 more sets for my other bows!  Love them Sticshooter.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: jimmerc on April 03, 2009, 03:45:00 PM
I had them on my widow several years back and loved them, my next recurve will have them also!!
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: BobW on April 03, 2009, 03:57:00 PM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... I don't like them....

The craftsmanship of the guys that do them here is outstanding, and their work is top notch, but I feel it blows the lines of a bow.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: James Wrenn on April 03, 2009, 04:06:00 PM
I was going to say the only downside is catching on everything and the looks.I don't care for them either.  :)
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: calgarychef on April 03, 2009, 04:26:00 PM
The downside is they look really goofy and take away from the looks of an otherwise nice looking bow.

There finally a naysayer for ya!!

the chef
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Ragin Bull on April 03, 2009, 07:33:00 PM
Sorry to hear that calgrychef, If you would prefer a plain looking set of steel limb bolts let me know. I've pulled off severel sets and put on antler bolts. Call me crazy! LOL  :thumbsup:  
That reminds me I need to get some more!
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: sticshooter on April 03, 2009, 08:57:00 PM
Anyone that has had a problem with antler limb bolts snagging up I have a question. Do you use a bow quiver and does it snag up also?<><
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: GMMAT on April 03, 2009, 09:18:00 PM
I'm interested in the ones I posted, stic......if you'll give me a price, I'll make a decision.  I sent you a PM.

Thanks.

Jeff
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: MikeW on April 03, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
QuoteYep, They hang up on every limb and vine!...O.L.
Didn't your Mamma teach you to watch where you are walking?
  :p
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Kip on April 03, 2009, 10:17:00 PM
Frank  Vines and small limbs,grass and everything you can think of hang up in my string and limbs(recurve)quiver and limb bolts.I am not downgrading your product but it happens the more you have hanging outside of the limbs.Kip
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: sticshooter on April 03, 2009, 10:26:00 PM
Kip I know you are not downgrading anything. I just never had anyone tell me they ever had this problem before. I never noticed it . But I do know stuff snags on my limb and string. No hard feelings on my part with anyone here. and i am sorry if i came across like that.<><
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: daveycrockett on April 03, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
I see no downside, I like 'em. Frank does great work. I need another set to! PM sent Frank.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: GMMAT on April 03, 2009, 11:11:00 PM
Thanks for the note Stic.  PM sent.

I'm looking forward to seeing them on my RER when it comes in.

Jeff
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: snag on April 03, 2009, 11:16:00 PM
Well if anyone should know about "snaggin'" it should be me!  haha
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Bjorn on April 04, 2009, 02:32:00 AM
They can catch on stuff:
(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q291/bjornweb/DSCN0607.jpg)
But ugly they are not!
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: fido dog on April 04, 2009, 03:03:00 AM
Couldn't you have more than one set? One for looks and one for tramping through the brush?

I'll expect a commission Frank......LOL!
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: sticshooter on April 04, 2009, 09:02:00 AM
Bjorn those are whoppers for sure. They look great.fido you make a great point. commission.... I'll take that under consideration
 :bigsmyl:  <><
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: oz on April 04, 2009, 10:58:00 AM
For the earlier question about silvertips,
on the order form you choose black knobs, or allen wrench brass bezel attachments. I am sure the most common is black knobs, but you can choose other when you oder.
oz
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: SteveB on April 04, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
QuoteBeauty is in the eye of the beholder.... I don't like them....
X2

Steve
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: hvyhitter on April 04, 2009, 03:09:00 PM
....yep, they're ugly.....
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: sticshooter on April 04, 2009, 04:24:00 PM
Ugly??? I kinda like them. But to each there own. I don't these are ugly LOL<><

   :bigsmyl:        :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: snag on April 04, 2009, 04:25:00 PM
Jeff asked if there was any downside to them. He didn't ask if you liked them, if they were ugly...he obviously can see what they look like for himself.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: snag on April 04, 2009, 04:28:00 PM
Downside? I can't think of any problems with them Jeff. They do what they are suppose to do. Acsent the bow and hold the limbs on.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: GMMAT on April 04, 2009, 04:30:00 PM
Stic:

I'm sorry I asked, kinda.

I think they're a great addition.....and I look forward to receiving mine.

Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: sticshooter on April 04, 2009, 04:55:00 PM
Please no need to apologize. I am not upset with anyone who thinks they are ugly or would not want them on there bows. This is America and everyone has a right to there opinion. It's just like someone might not like bamboo limbs and some might. It's not a big deal. Just posting pics to show off   :bigsmyl:    :goldtooth:  <><
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: amar911 on April 04, 2009, 05:20:00 PM
Those bolts that Frank posted are beautiful in my opinion, as are the two sets he and Shell made for me. I can understand why others may think the bulk or boldness of the bolts detracts from the lines of their bows, but it is difficult for me to understand how someone who appreciates wildlife and the outdoors could not appreciate the looks of the antler burrs or the craftsmanship that Frank and Shell put into these little works of art. I thank God that He made us all unique with different tastes so that we can have diversity in life and not be always battling to get the same scarce resources. If everyone liked the same bows, I wouldn't have been able to buy most of mine, and I'm sure someone else would have ended up with my wife besides me. I know there are plenty of us around who appreciate the beauty of these limb bolts without us having to be concerned that a some among us do not like them. There are some objects that people here on TG get that they love and are very proud to own, while I don't care for those objects and have no desire to own them myself. Nothing wrong with different tastes -- or as the song goes, "Different strokes for different folks."

Allan
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: ABBIBOY on April 04, 2009, 05:29:00 PM
OWN 2 SETS WITH 2 SETS ON THE WAY. GREAT WORK , GREAT PRICE.
LOVE'EM
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: daveycrockett on April 04, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
As I said before, I like "em. just ordered another set.  :jumper:
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: sticshooter on April 04, 2009, 10:46:00 PM
And I thank ya!  :thumbsup:    :notworthy:  <><
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: daveycrockett on April 04, 2009, 10:57:00 PM
And you are welcome!!  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: northener on April 05, 2009, 09:13:00 AM
sticshooter-- I would like to see the back side of those if you would, please.

The reason I ask,  I bought a used bow, it had them on and they were poorly made. The bolt that was used had rough edges that contacted the limbs, plus they were not perpendicular to the antler burr.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: snag on April 05, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Sticshooter does them right. They are perpendicular to the antler burr, finished nicely around where they fit together and with them comes thin washers to help protect and align the design. You can't do better than what Sticshooter makes! 3 sets on 3 TDs
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: northener on April 05, 2009, 11:39:00 AM
Thanks snag,  I am sure he does and I hope no one here thinks I was pointing fingers at sticshooter. I have no way of knowing who made the one that came with my used bow.

BTW. the ones sticshooter showed previously in theis thread are really nice looking.
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: Danny J on April 05, 2009, 09:30:00 PM
Hey, I am an old "Mopar man" and Ive been told some people even like chevys. If you can beleive that. I have a set that Frank and Shell made for my SR Swift. If they dont snag things I would be surprised. About everything I carry into the woods snags things. But I do know they are to functional and beautiful to leave at home.
Danny J
Title: Re: Any downside to antler limb bolts?
Post by: BillW on April 05, 2009, 10:17:00 PM
I know how much Frank likes BW bows and that is why I love to post this picture.. LOL

I have had this set Frank made for me about 3-4 years. I really like them and I think they make a good looking bow even better.... Really to me much better than a flat head screw.
Bill
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/WidowinAK.jpg)