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Title: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Luke Vander Vennen on March 18, 2007, 12:10:00 AM
Normally when I hit a self-nock, that's generally it for the arrow. The nock always splits an inch or two down the shaft without much argument. Even if it's a glancing shot it seems like the arrow just decides it doesn't want to stay in one piece anymore. On my last batch of arrows I wrapped the base of the nocks with thread and superglue, just to see how they would hold up. They still broke with a direct hit, but they certainly put up a lot more of a fight. Take a look. Sorry for the crummy first picture. The hole actually penetrated about 3/4 of an inch deep.
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/LukeVV/splitnock2.jpg)
  (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/LukeVV/splitnock1.jpg)
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Bowspirit on March 18, 2007, 12:58:00 AM
"Normally when I hit a self-nock, that's generally it for the arrow."

Oh yeah, that's real terrible. Your breaking self nocks because your groups are so tight...just terrible...  ;)    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 18, 2007, 06:58:00 AM
Good shootin man. You need to shoot at different spots and save on arras. I have not had a really tight group problem lately.
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: tamure on March 18, 2007, 08:30:00 AM
;)  That's a good problem to have.

Nice looking arrows too.
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on March 18, 2007, 08:41:00 AM
When I have that problem....   :biglaugh:    Just shoot one arrow at a time.
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on March 18, 2007, 08:48:00 AM
Luke;
      I can see you are going to be building a lot of arrows with that kind of shooting!! Arn new up and coming Bowhunters!! LOL. Nice shooting,hope you can make the " Old Chelsea Shoot".
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: SERGIO VENNERI on March 18, 2007, 08:53:00 AM
Luke;
      I can see you are going to be building a lot of arrows with that kind of shooting!! Arn new up and coming Bowhunters!! LOL. Nice shooting,hope you can make the " Old Chelsea Shoot".
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Luke Vander Vennen on March 18, 2007, 11:24:00 AM
oh yeah, one thing I forgot to say: This wasn't really a robinhood. I just missed equally two times  :D
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Pat B on March 18, 2007, 12:10:00 PM
Luke, There is a simple fix for this. Even without the wrap and a worse split, in lots of cases they can be fixed. What I have done is to grind down the bad area at a long angle, do the same on another piece of shaft, glue them together. After everything has set up, make another self nock and rewrap with thread and set in glue. I make mostly hardwood shoot arrows and put a lot of time in them just to throw them away when I'm lucky enough to break a nock but even on the cedars I used to make this method has worked very well. Pat
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Aeronut on March 18, 2007, 08:43:00 PM
Good shot!

Dennis
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: robslifts on March 18, 2007, 09:01:00 PM
awesome shooting
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Dryrot on March 18, 2007, 10:03:00 PM
Thats not a problem I usually have to worry about. but how about a pic of your wrapped self nocks???
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: longstick on March 18, 2007, 10:07:00 PM
I read that they were trying to prove a Robin hood was not possible on some show,that the name escapes me..if this aint a woodie robin hood then what is one! PROOF! It can happen on a woodie too
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: shootrmn on March 18, 2007, 11:57:00 PM
the show was Mythbusters and they did prove that is was virtualy impossible to split the shaft from nock to tip on a wooden arrow. It has mostly to do with the grain and not the shooter. they also demonstrated that the split arrow in the Robin Hood movie was most likely a bamboo shaft and that those are possible to split all the way to the tip. I have only once hit a nock on purpose and it split my ceadar arrow about four inches through the plasticknock and down the near center of the shaft. I hung it on the fireplace till I do it again.
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: StanM on March 19, 2007, 12:02:00 AM
Nice shooting, Luke.

Pat, could you post a pic of which you speak?

Stan
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Patience on March 19, 2007, 03:51:00 PM
Luke, that's a good problem to have. You can still use that arrow. I know your running low, cut off the piece that is trash and splice in a piece of hardwood (you should have taken the ash when I offered.LOL). Sand it smooth and remake the knock. I'll remember this next time we shoot... you go first. LOL
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Luke Vander Vennen on March 19, 2007, 05:41:00 PM
LOL Nick, the only way your arrows will be in danger from me is if you consistanly miss what you're aiming for  :readit:
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: Pat B on March 19, 2007, 11:33:00 PM
StanM, I don't have any pics(I couldn't post it if I did) and I can't find the arrow. What I did was grind a bevel on the end of about 3/4" to 1" long, do the same with a cut off piece and glue them together.
   A while back someone did a build-a-long about a single bevel footed shaft. That's where I got the idea. Look in the How-to section or do a search for footed shafts.   Pat
Title: Re: Not bad for some thread and cheap superglue...
Post by: StanM on March 20, 2007, 12:40:00 AM
Thanks, Pat.  I found what you were referencing.  Think I'll try it.  

Stan