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Title: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 19, 2009, 01:13:00 AM
well after some very serious begging that was oscar worthy i swear.i have the green light to buy a morrison. i need to choose the woods and if anyone can post pics of yours i would be greatly appreciative.cheyenne or shawnee either one...just looking for that combo that grabs me.also input on limb cores and lams ....thank you much fellow archers.     :notworthy:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JoLo on March 19, 2009, 02:54:00 AM
Just got my all phenolic Cheyenne, with black limbs, so no nice woods there.
But the limbs have the foam core, and they are noticeable smoother and faster than my old boo core limbs, and on top of that, it´s so quiet.


 :archer:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: A.S. on March 19, 2009, 05:37:00 AM
Here's mine, Macassar ebony with Kingwood flare. Limbs are foam core/black glass with copperheads.

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w3/bowcrazy_photos/CIMG1070.jpg)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w3/bowcrazy_photos/CIMG1071.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 19, 2009, 06:26:00 AM
nice bow...lol..i'm goin nuckin futts here,haven't even got my psax in the mail yet and i'm off to the races again....>---->   :help:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: RUSTY1 on March 19, 2009, 07:02:00 AM
Should be getting my SHAWNEE sometime soon. It will be a "mun" ebony with black phenolic and maple accent stripes. The limbs will be recurve foam core, carbon backed. I can't wait!!! I'll post pics when it arrives!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 19, 2009, 08:40:00 AM
cool
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: A.S. on March 19, 2009, 08:52:00 AM
I was the same way when I ordered mine. I have a Silvertip on order now. I have changed the wood combo 3 times!!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: DEAN on March 19, 2009, 09:01:00 AM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/boxxer06/P4190003.jpg)OSAGE & ZEBRAWOOD LIMBS ARE  getting skinned at BOB'S now!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: vermonster13 on March 19, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
Here are a few I have and have had. Enjoy.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/vermonster13/ACShawnee013.jpg) (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/vermonster13/ShawneeHorn002.jpg) (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/vermonster13/Dalaa003.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/vermonster13/Shawneefs003.jpg) (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/vermonster13/04.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f311/vermonster13/05.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: DBerrard on March 19, 2009, 09:49:00 AM
VT13, whats on the bottom bow? looks like silicone or something?


Also, does anyone know the woods of Norman Watts' bow? It's this bow here  http://www.morrisonarchery.com/html/shawnee.html

Is that ebony and bacote? ebony and cocobola? Dunno here..
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: S. Brant Osborn on March 19, 2009, 09:57:00 AM
Dave, I am not speaking for V13, but I am guessing that is Kudu horn overlay.
Brant
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: vermonster13 on March 19, 2009, 09:58:00 AM
I think that one was Dall Sheep horn.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: NoCams on March 19, 2009, 10:03:00 AM
Killy,
Where are you when you are needed ? I think her Morrison is awful pretty. Also JC's boy has one that is awesome. PM Killdeer and JC and get pics from them.

nocams  :coffee:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 19, 2009, 10:29:00 AM
Here's mine. Definitely go with the foam cores. I just got off the phone with Bob. He is shooting some limbs he has just built recently with carbon and foam. He is getting 4 fps. faster out of them over the foam cores only.

Good luck enjoy the hunt.

T.J.

 (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/P2210534.jpg)

 (http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/P2210535.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Rick_H on March 19, 2009, 11:55:00 AM
Another Cheyenne phenolic riser carbon/foam limbs here. It may be a bit unusual but I like it and it shoots great. I think of it as my "No Country For Old Men" bow for those who have seen the movie.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 19, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
what woods tj ? yours is tuggin at me,looks very nice.love the darker colors and skins.which bow is that?  thanks.....larry
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 19, 2009, 12:25:00 PM
Larry, its a Cheyenne A riser and B limbs making a 56" bow. The riser is Macasser Ebony with a Bocote flair with medium grip. Limbs are boo cores with glass and eastern diamond back skins. Tips are Kudu.

I may have some new limbs coming so these may be for sale soon. Would save you $200 anyway. These limbs are 53 lbs @ 28".

Anyway you go you will love it.

Thanks T.J.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 19, 2009, 01:13:00 PM
my draw is 30"+ so i'll be getting 62-64" total so i assume it will be the c riser and limbs.boo is a good limb...hear people talkin up the foam core but i don't know if i want that......larry
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Mary A on March 19, 2009, 01:38:00 PM
Here is my 60" Morrison ILF longbow. This bow has a 16" low grip riser that is Chechen and Purple Heart. It has D limbs that are carbon backed and foam core with eastern diamond back skins.  

I highly recommend the Morrison ILF bows and the carbon/foam limbs.

 (http://www.angeloholsteins.com/images/Pictures/Hunting/morrison-010-web.jpg)
 (http://www.angeloholsteins.com/images/Pictures/Hunting/morrison-012-web.jpg)
 (http://www.angeloholsteins.com/images/Pictures/Hunting/morrison-005-web.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 19, 2009, 02:02:00 PM
looks good
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Chris Surtees on March 19, 2009, 02:26:00 PM
Texas Ebony and Osage

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/CLSurt/IMG_0070.jpg)

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b175/CLSurt/IMG_0078.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: RUSTY1 on March 19, 2009, 02:37:00 PM
Just got off the phone with Bob. He is shooting the last coat of sealer on the riser today and the limbs are already in work. He said there are a few sets of the carbon backed, foam core limbs in work. not sure if they are all spoken for. Hope my weight comes out the first time on my limbs! I'm gettin' antsy!!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: RUSTY1 on March 19, 2009, 02:56:00 PM
Here is a preview of what my riser will look like. Just like this, but a SHAWNEE, not an ILF like this one. And mine will not have the finger grooves either. Should look sweet with the carbon backed limbs!
 (http://i659.photobucket.com/albums/uu312/scbowhntr/7119.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 19, 2009, 02:59:00 PM
That'll be a stunner R.J.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: RUSTY1 on March 19, 2009, 03:11:00 PM
TJ- yeah I think so! I've never seen that wood before until I started looking on Bob's site. A little more $$$ but when he said he had enough to do one more riser and would not be able to get any more I had to pull the trigger on it!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 19, 2009, 06:59:00 PM
tough choice man....whats a guy to do? these are very nice bows indeed.whats the rule for testing before you buy? pay up front i presume.love the skins,thats gonna be in for sure,like that texas ebony sweet looking. thanks guys keep em coming.
               

larry
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Colotrad on March 19, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
Vermonster - I had no idea you owned Dan Smith's nasty osage bow before I did.  I absolutely love that riser and it isn't going anywhere...ever.
Elkhereder - The flared risers are beautiful, but don't discount the natural beauty of a solid osage riser.
Yeah...I know...I just made your decision that much harder.  Sorry!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: vermonster13 on March 19, 2009, 09:48:00 PM
I've had a few bows pass through here Steve.    :D
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 20, 2009, 03:34:00 AM
:banghead:    :banghead:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: k. sisco on March 20, 2009, 04:33:00 AM
I have 3 shawnee bows,and i wish i could send pics.

I have a curly koa riser with the same wood flare and a kudu horn inlay on the front of the riser,with a full pinecone.

The second one is a beautiful cocobolo outside,and gaboon ebony flare riser,with a full pinecone.Also has thin maple stripes running through the riser.This riser is absolutly  beautiful.
 
The third is a heritage walnut with a full pinecone.

And Bob is making me another one as we speak,the riser will be cocobolo and gaboon ebony too,w/full pinecone.
These are (IMO)on of the nicest wood combo's I have seen.

Thanks for letting me share,sure wish I could learn to download pics.

BTW these are some very nice bows!

Thanks,Ken
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Colotrad on March 20, 2009, 07:35:00 AM
V - That's the understatement of the year!!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Emmons on March 20, 2009, 08:49:00 AM
Here are some I have and some that I traded off.

(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/JPStangs/DSCN1216.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/JPStangs/Riser.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/JPStangs/DSCN2061.jpg)
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a222/JPStangs/10095.jpg)

James
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 20, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
:eek:    :eek:    :jumper:    :jumper:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Bob Walker on March 20, 2009, 12:03:00 PM
OK, since I can't shoot right now, I'll play. Here's my newest one. Gaboon ebony and bacote riser which I just sent off to have it custom checkered, foam core Arapaho limbs with eastern diamondback skins and Kudu horn tips. FAST!!.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/Muddiver/NewMorrison.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 20, 2009, 12:38:00 PM
Beautiful Bob. Morrison has the darkest Bocote I've ever seen from any bowyer. Mine is the same way.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 20, 2009, 02:26:00 PM
Thats sharp Bob. I have Gaboon in my latest one. Gaboon with Masur Birch. Should be getting it soon.

BTW- Bob, If your afraid it will lose it's mojo until your well, send it to me and I'll shoot it for ya.     :bigsmyl:  
Hope your doing well.

Mike
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 20, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd312/sargeyriley/DSCN0185.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd312/sargeyriley/DSCN0188.jpg)

The one I'm shooting now. 54@27 A-riser with D-limbs(60") Bacote/Macassar Ebony Riser and Bacote veneers on foam core limbs.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 20, 2009, 06:48:00 PM
thats sweet...that might be the one leatherneck   :jumper:    :jumper:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Mike VanBuren on March 20, 2009, 09:23:00 PM
I'll second what Elkherder said. I also like that honey colored osage in a riser.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: MYSTIKBOW on March 20, 2009, 09:40:00 PM
Hey Al,
Thats a purty one man! Put me on the top of your fellow brother lefty list to contact to resell.    :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 20, 2009, 10:35:00 PM
elkherder, thanks. Ask Bob about the new carbon he got. He was still testing it to put into his recurve limbs. The stuff he puts into his longbow limbs doesn't do much for the recurve ones but this new stuff he thinks might add some good performance. Just a thought.

Mike
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 20, 2009, 10:44:00 PM
Mike I talked to him yesterday. He said the new stuff is getting him 4 fps more over the foam only limbs. But he just got some new carbon he's testing and has higher hopes for. 4 fps is pretty huge. Can't wait to see what this new carbon reveals.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 20, 2009, 10:55:00 PM
Sounds good Kentucky. 4 fps is a nice jump.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 20, 2009, 11:17:00 PM
thats one very nice bow there leatherneck...hows about you mail it to me and let me get a little closer look at it?  :readit:    :D    :D   promise i'll be very careful with it. lol....is that the cheyenne? looks like a low grip..?..i think i'll be doing that wood choice.i have some walrus tusk that would look good with it
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 20, 2009, 11:18:00 PM
It's a Shawnee Elkherder
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 20, 2009, 11:23:00 PM
It's the Shawnee. The grip actually started as a med. and I wanted it lower. Being so close to Bob's house(only 1.5 hrs. away) I drove up and Bob custom fit it too my hand. It's actually almost identical to Bob's low grip. I have another one on order and I ordered a low grip this time. I appreciate the compliment. Bob makes some awesome bows. I'll make a deal with you, send me about $10,000.00 as a deposit and when the bow returns I'll send you $500.00 back. Deal?  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: LoneWolf73 on March 20, 2009, 11:37:00 PM
Cheyenne 58#
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff14/LoneWolf73_photo/DSC01714.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 20, 2009, 11:40:00 PM
uhhhhh....tempting..how long do i get to keep the bow?    :rolleyes:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: longbowben on March 20, 2009, 11:44:00 PM
Elkherder he at work i will go get it whats it worth to you.  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 20, 2009, 11:50:00 PM
I got Riley(aka-flash) keeping a close eye on it for me while I'm gone. Not to mention I activated all the claymores in the yard before I left.   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 20, 2009, 11:56:00 PM
good luck in your quest there ben..insurance up to date?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: longbowben on March 21, 2009, 12:12:00 AM
Riley ,foods his weekness im safe.  :biglaugh:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: longbowben on March 21, 2009, 12:17:00 AM
Plus my sis will let me right in.And see will feed me and drink his beer.Man he hates that.  :D
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Stripstrike1 on March 21, 2009, 12:57:00 AM
Here is my Shawnee Dakota...

  (http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x218/Stripstrike1/DSC00708.jpg)
 (http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x218/Stripstrike1/DSC00707.jpg)

(http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x218/Stripstrike1/DSC00698.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 21, 2009, 01:08:00 AM
drink his beer!!!!! wow thats low   :scared:    :scared:  ........sweet bow stripstrike,what woods?

        thanks.....larry
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 21, 2009, 02:57:00 AM
I concur strips, SWEET bow! Love those canebreaks.

elk-Ben's a lightweight, after one beer he's done! So I'm in good shape.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 21, 2009, 03:41:00 AM
lightweight eh...poor ben...i'm gonna get one like yours leatherneck.i really like the grain
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 21, 2009, 05:10:00 AM
Fine by me. I'll take that as a compliment.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 21, 2009, 09:14:00 AM
You going with the Shawnee or Cheyenne Elk?

Great looking bows guys.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 21, 2009, 01:39:00 PM
shawnee.....i think......  :banghead:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 21, 2009, 06:03:00 PM
thanks for all the input fellas.gonna order one here in a couple days.whats the wait time on morrisons ?     :notworthy:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 21, 2009, 10:12:00 PM
Bob has 6-8 months on his web page but he's a hustler and I bet you'll have it before then. My newest riser was done in a month and now I'm waiting on my limbs.

FYI- Having owned both, I'd recommend the Shawnee. Nothing at all wrong with the Cheyenne but the Shawnee gets a very SLIGHT edge in my book.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 21, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
thanks leatherneck
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Stripstrike1 on March 23, 2009, 10:57:00 AM
Hey Elkherder....the woods in the riser are Curly Koa and Mac Ebony.  I also have the Kudu Horn Overlay and full pinecone on the Riser.  Its almost too pretty to take to the woods.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 23, 2009, 02:12:00 PM
I heard Bob's not going to carry Maccaser Ebony any longer. Although I'm sure he has other kinds of Ebony.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 23, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
TJ, I believe your correct. Thats why when I ordered my latest I used Gaboon Ebony instead. Glad I did to, it looks great with the Masur Birch.

Mike
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 23, 2009, 08:59:00 PM
OK, heres a peek of my latest. Limbs are not done yet but the riser is a Morrison Shawnee, low grip, with Gaboon Ebony and Masur Birch. I love it! The limbs will have Masur Birch veneers on them.   (http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd312/sargeyriley/MRizzo.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Ray Hammond on March 23, 2009, 10:00:00 PM
I hate to say this, but 4 fps is just about 3/4 of an inch at 20 yards- quicker. I'm not sure that's significant enough to just say "go for it".

does anyone know about the noise factor, are they equally quiet compared to other limb components? What's the cost difference?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 23, 2009, 10:20:00 PM
Wow Mike beautiful riser. That birch is amazing looking. Does the ebony have any visible grain pattern at all?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Bowhunter4life on March 23, 2009, 10:24:00 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Bowhunter4life/100_0462.jpg)

Cheyenne, B riser w/B limbs

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Bowhunter4life/100_0453.jpg)

Shawnee, A riser w/E limbs

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Bowhunter4life/100_0336.jpg)

Shawnee, A riser w/E limbs

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Bowhunter4life/100_0337.jpg)

Swanee, A riser w/E limbs
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Bowhunter4life on March 23, 2009, 10:27:00 PM
Oh yeah, Cougar...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Bowhunter4life/BPCougar003.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Bowhunter4life/BPCougar004.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 23, 2009, 10:31:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ray Hammond:
I hate to say this, but 4 fps is just about 3/4 of an inch at 20 yards- quicker. I'm not sure that's significant enough to just say "go for it".

does anyone know about the noise factor, are they equally quiet compared to other limb components? What's the cost difference?
Ray, Sorry you just got me wondering. I did the calculation. If a bow was shooting 180 fps. and you shot an arrow at 20 yards which is 60 ft. The arrow from this bow would travel that distance in half a second. A 4 fps increase would mean the arrow would be 2 fps faster at half that distance which would be 60 ft or 20 yards. So that equates to 2 feet more distance in that half a second not 3/4 of an inch. That's actually pretty big by just changing limb core material.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Steelhead on March 24, 2009, 12:13:00 AM
Ray the Carbon and foam Dakota limbs are very very quiet shooting.Quieter than the bamboo in my experience.The bamboo limbs are quiet shooting but not as quiet.The carbon and foam limbs are real smooth shooting and I notice no handshock at all.  

I have not comapared the recurve limbs with foam against the bamboo curve limbs.I have never had the foam cored curve limbs.I would assume they are quiet shooting from my experience with the Dakota limbs.

The foam cored limbs and the Bamboo are about the same price,20$s difference.Add the carbon and the cost is about 130$ more than foam and glass limbs and 150$ more than the bamboo and glass limbs.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 24, 2009, 07:50:00 AM
I currently shoot the recurve limbs with the foam cores in them. They are (IMO) much quieter then the boo limbs. I don't even need silencers on the string. I put beaver puffs on for looks. I've never had any shock in my old Morrisons so these are no different. The 20.00 extra dollars was well worth it in my eyes. never used the carbon so I have no comment on it.

Bow-Have seen that Cougar before and it's one of my favorite wood combinations.

Mike
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 24, 2009, 07:59:00 AM
I have boo cores in my Cheyenne recurve limbs. I just picked up some foam cores that will arrive early next week. Although the foam core limbs are three pounds lighter, I'll know the differences soon enough.

What's not known on these foam core limbs is over time will they keep their performance or lose some like a wood core does. Do you or don't you keep them strung all the time like I do my boo cored limbs? No one knows the answers to these questions yet.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JC on March 24, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
Ray, I don't know about his recent opinion but the last I talked to Bob about the recurve limbs he had concerns the benefit of the carbon would be worth it. I know for sure that is not the case with the longbow limbs as the carbon/foam option there is definately worth the money in my opinion. Not only are they faster, they feel smoother and are definately quieter in my opinion.

TJ, all of my Morrisons, whether longbow or recurve remain strung unless they are taken down for travel. I don't think it's anything at all to worry about.

Wood combos I've had/have:

Chase's Bocote/midnight dymondwood Shawnee
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Morrison/Picture007.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Morrison/Picture006.jpg)

My Macassar/Bocote Cheyenne
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Morrison/Picture038.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Morrison/Picture033.jpg)

My Macassar/Osage Cheyenne
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Morrison/133678853pUeqMG_ph.jpg)

My Zebrawood/midnight dymondwood Shawnee
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Picture007-1.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Morrison/Picture063.jpg)

My phenolic ILF dipped in Predator Green
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Morrison/Predator-Camouflage-Green.jpg)

I've had a few more but can't find any good pics of those.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: vermonster13 on March 24, 2009, 09:05:00 AM
Bob found a new source for carbon that took his concerns away for using it on his recurve limbs and he did gain around 4fps with it he told me. If the extra cost is worth it for 4fps is up to the buyer to decide. I do know I want one of his 14" aluminum ILF risers as soon as they become available.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: snag on March 24, 2009, 09:13:00 AM
It seems some of us are chasing the speed factor just like wheelbow shooters. 4fps....?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JC on March 24, 2009, 09:22:00 AM
Snag, not fps for me, just more energy. I have found I tend to shoot best around the 180-185fps mark. With my carbon/foam dakota limbs that's a fairly heavy arrow, even at my short draw.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Bob Morrison on March 24, 2009, 11:38:00 AM
Its about choice......If your not interested in gaining 4 fps don't spend the extra money. If you want it it is available. We have had to stop using some of the Ebonies ( Macasser, Philippine and now Mun) I can not find any that has been kiln dried in 8/4. So we are using Gaboon Ebony inplace of them.... As I was saying, its about choice. I can give you foam and carbon if you want it, some ebony I can't and I will not use anything  over 8-9% moisture. I will have a bunch of Macasser Ebony in about a year, when it comes out of the kiln.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: vermonster13 on March 24, 2009, 11:43:00 AM
Speaking of choices, how are the new risers coming along Bob?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: snag on March 24, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
I know Bob it is about choices. Just making an observation.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Bob Morrison on March 24, 2009, 11:59:00 AM
V13, You do mean the ALUMNIUM riser  :)  not another choice... Its looking like a week or two now, The company machining them had about a week set back on one of there other projects.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: vermonster13 on March 24, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
Yes the ALUMINUM riser. I want one as soon as they are available please.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JC on March 24, 2009, 01:03:00 PM
Check the moisture content on this one lately Bob?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/recurvhuntr/Morrison/P1012786.jpg)

Oh the agony of waiting for a nice piece of wood to dry!   :banghead:  

Al-u-min-i-um....Bah! Next you'll be drilling holes for plungers and sights!   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 24, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
Oh my goodness that's gonna be a wild one. What is that JC? What if any woods are you going to use with it?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JC on March 24, 2009, 01:46:00 PM
That's a piece of black and white ebony TJ. I bought it last summer but Bob told me in Sept. when I gave it to him "best thing to do is forget about how long it will take to dry."

I hope to have him build a Shawnee riser with a midnight dymondwood center flair like Chase's bow in my first pic, with this b&w ebony on the outsides.

Says we might get two risers and if not, at least one and a good bit of material for knife handles for my blade makin buddies.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: vermonster13 on March 24, 2009, 01:53:00 PM
JC, Bob already offers those holes.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: RUSTY1 on March 24, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
That will look awsome JC. I just got a little package in the mail yesterday from Bob. It was a chunk of Mun Ebony from the block that he used to make my riser and I'm gonna use it to make sideplates on the knife in my arm guard to match the new bow!!

R.J.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 24, 2009, 02:00:00 PM
J.C. I think that Shawnee will make Ted Nugent turn trad. make sure to post some picts when you get her.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Bob Morrison on March 24, 2009, 02:26:00 PM
JC, I unwrapped it last week and rewrapped it right away. We are not close yet. I just have to keep wrapping and unwrapping, wrapping a new newspaper around it and wait.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JC on March 24, 2009, 02:32:00 PM
David, SHHHHH! the tradpolice will hear!

Thanks guys, I will definately post when it's finally done. Worth the wait I'm sure.

I know, I know Bob...a watched pot never boils.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Ray Hammond on March 24, 2009, 04:54:00 PM
Kentucky,

I think you got my point?

And I think you ought to redo the math.

at 180 FPS it would take 1/3 of a second to reach the target 3x60=180

if you were to increase the speed by 4 fps then 1/3 of four feet would be 1.3 feet. That's a little off, of course, because its more complicated than that, but its close enough for instinctive archery.

If you need that difference in speed to achieve the results you desire, that's fine. If the cost is insignificant, that's even better. If there are OTHER compelling reasons other than speed to buy them, like quietness, ease of draw, then that's even more justification.

But someone in this thread stated that the increase of 4 fps better performance in terms of speed alone was a justification for purchasing the limbs.

If MY MATH is right that is a .022% increase and all I was observing was that I wasn't sure without other mitigating factors it was worth a big difference in price.

Your response is just like those on broadhead threads where people say " 95 dollars for three broadheads??" and someone gets upset because THEY spent the money ....spend what you like...but it is OK for me to comment on it with a different take, right?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Ray Hammond on March 24, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
Bob, I definitely wasn't trying to poo poo anything you are doing.

You know I shoot one of your Shawnee's, my hunting partner and best friend has a Cougar, and my good buddy Joe has a houseful of your bows...I like them, I think they are the pinnacle of the bowyer's craft.

And I bought a piece of black and white ebony to try to make knife handle out of it- the guy said it had been in his Arizona shop for 6 years. The moisture content was over 14%!!!! It's even up higher than that now that its soaked up some of our Georgia air. Yikes.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Killdeer on March 24, 2009, 05:21:00 PM
Bob's 'shop pic' of my Cheyenne. The bocote has mellowed  and become browner than it is here, which I like.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/Archery%20Equipment/7218Cheyenne.jpg)

Added some scratches..
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/Archery%20Equipment/Img_5141.jpg)

Arapaho (This picture gets really big.   :D   )
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/Archery%20Equipment/Bows/th_MorrisonArapaho2.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/Archery%20Equipment/Bows/MorrisonArapaho2.jpg)

Dakota
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/Hunting%20and%20Camp/2007%20November%20Hunt/Img_5049.jpg)


I never have been able to capture the grain in this wonderfully dark macassar ebony. The bow (ACS) is backed with canebrake skins.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/Archery%20Equipment/Arras3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/Meandtreecrop.jpg)

Killdeer   :goldtooth:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 24, 2009, 06:05:00 PM
wow killdeer that one bow looks like you could hike around on it and even climb a hill or two.nice...what wood is that?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 24, 2009, 06:06:00 PM
the dakota is the one i'm referring too
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 24, 2009, 08:00:00 PM
Ahhh, Killy finally made it and posted some pics. I was thinking you weren't going to let everyone see your great collection. Always better late than never. Pic 3 (the Arapho) is still my favorite. My birthday is coming up in Aug.Hint Hint.  :jumper:  

Mike
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Killdeer on March 24, 2009, 08:20:00 PM
:saywhat:  
Not one bloody chance in Vegas, dude!
That is my retirement fund!
(And it's a whole lot more fun than my stinkin' 401K, that's fer durn sure!)

If I remember right, Bob told me that the Dakota was made of kingwood. I bought it at the BBTC, probably in 2005. Maybe 2004.

That's all I have, just four of Bob's finest, which means that I am either possessed of superior restraint, or inferior funding. Go figure.
Killdeer~Blessed!   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 24, 2009, 08:57:00 PM
Oops you are correct about my math Ray, thanks for the correction

Killdeer, those are beautiful bows.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Wannabe1 on March 25, 2009, 12:52:00 AM
Killie, I've got one and got it used. I am definitely possessed of the inferior funding thingy!   :rolleyes:   It's quickly becoming the only bow I pick up now.   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 25, 2009, 01:02:00 AM
any chance of you sending that bow my way so as i can get a little closer look at it ? i'll send er right back ....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JC on March 25, 2009, 07:13:00 AM
Ray, if it's 180fps without the foam/carbon and 184 with it, that's an increase of speed by 2.2% (gots to move the decimal when using % bro).

To put that into perspective, it's often said that 1" of draw = 4-5 fps depending on the bow and 1# of draw weight is often equated to 1fps. So 4fps would be going up 1" in draw length or 4# of draw weight.

If you're into kenetic energy, 640gr@180fps=46 ft/lbs. The same 640gr@184fps= 48 ft/lbs, that's a 4.3% increase in Ek (dat's kenetic energy in physics speak).

If you're into momentum, 640gr@180fps=.511. The same 640gr@184fps= .523, that's a 2.4% increase in P (dat's momentum).

(Dang, I knew I'd use that Georgia Tech larnin one day)

If you're into quiet and perceived smoother draw...well, I have no calculation for quantitative analysis but my cranial computer says the carbon/foam longbow limbs are superior to other models.

I think every feller should shoot what he wants, whateve his justification, and I know my brother Ray feels that same way too.

I know my justification is partially made considering "efficiency" more than it's by-product "speed". While it is "down the list" in my criteria for a bow...it's still on my list!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: leatherneck on March 25, 2009, 07:33:00 AM
WOW JC, you Ga. guys are pretty smart. I still don't understand all that jargin you just said cause my Criminal Justice degree never covered it, but it sure sounded good!  :biglaugh:  
Love the bow pics brother!

Mike
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JC on March 25, 2009, 07:41:00 AM
Mike, I'm not that smart, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night   ;)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 25, 2009, 08:17:00 AM
JC, just to clarify. It would be an 8 fps increase by adding foam and carbon over the bamboo cores. 4 fps for foam alone and another 4 fps for adding the carbon to the foam. The foam cores add $20 to a new set of limbs but the carbon addition adds $175 over that. It was the carbon addition at 4 fps increase for $175 Ray was questioning.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: JC on March 25, 2009, 08:22:00 AM
Well heck, $195 for 8 fps is an even better deal than I thought!  :goldtooth:  

It's been so long since I shot bamboo, I'm spoiled now.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Bowhunter4life on March 25, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
If I were buying a brand new set of limbs I would pay the little bit extra and get the carbon/foams.  Not for the speed aspect, but the overall limb.  They're a bit quieter, smoother, and do have a bit of an edge in the performance dept also.

Don't get me wrong, I like the boo limbs just fine as they are as good or better than anything out there IMO!  

When my Morrisons talk, they usually get the last word!
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Killdeer on March 25, 2009, 08:42:00 AM
elkherder, I would love nothing better than to brighten your day with a bow on your front doorstep.
But I don't trust the post office.

Killdeer

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Killdeer/TG%20Uploads/BBTC/BBTC%2007/Img_44382.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Bob Morrison on March 25, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
No problem Ray, It really doesn't matter how fast a bow will shoot if you can't hit anything. I am finding out I'm a much better shot at 45# than I am at 50# now if I can get 45# to preform like a 50# and also have the same feel and smoothness, I'm getting there. We can all say speed doen't really mean that much, but we still have to get a hunting weight arrow upto speed. 1st enough to get to our target,second enough to actual penetrate our target, and hopefully enough to make a exit hole. And a lot of it does come down to cost and what we want to spend. FF or equal strings cost several $$ more than dacron string,gain of 4-8 fps. cheapest fps you can get, and they get a lot harder to come by after replaceing the string, and more expensive.
I tested a set of longbow limbs with double carbon yesterday against a set with just carbon back, gained 3.9 fps. And the extra strip of carbon was not free, and to probably most not worth the extra $. Some will want it some won't.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 25, 2009, 01:36:00 PM
stayed in a holliday inn express last night'''''haaaaa thats rich...good one    :biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: WildmanSC on March 27, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
Bob,

Can you send an email to me at wlamb1647@hotmail.com , please.  I have a couple of questions about your used ILF limbs #7260.

Thanks!

Bill
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Shawn Leonard on March 27, 2009, 10:29:00 PM
No pics. but two of my favorites are Cocobola and Osage or Leopardwood and Purpleheart! Shawn
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: WildmanSC on March 27, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Below is a pic of one that is headed my way.  I just have to determine what limbs I'll eventually put on it.  It's the 18" B ILF riser.

  (http://usera.imagecave.com/wlamb1647/Morrison_ILF/Morrison_ILF.jpg)

Bill
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: christian on March 28, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
my old morrison T/D riser cocobolo / osage

 (http://s692.photobucket.com/albums/vv288/christian38/mo2.jpg)

  picts momo T/D (http://s692.photobucket.com/albums/vv288/christian38/?action=view¤t=mo2.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Steelhead on March 28, 2009, 05:27:00 PM
My  Shawnee B riser was Coco Bolo and had the osage center just like Christians bow.It had full pine cones engraved as well.It to looked great with Copperhead skins.The colors were all very complimentary.One of the best looking bows I ever had or have ever seen.My brother has the riser now.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Irish on March 28, 2009, 05:45:00 PM
I should of never opened this thread - after reading most of it, I just ordered a set of C recurve foam limbs.  Bob is such a nice guy!!   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: fatman on March 28, 2009, 06:25:00 PM
Mel, I thought you were pledging allegiance to the longbow....  :readit:    :bigsmyl:    :wavey:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Irish on March 28, 2009, 06:38:00 PM
I said......Did I say that??  :wavey:

Yes, the longbow this spring and summer.   But when it is time to hunt critters, it will be a recurve.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: fatman on March 28, 2009, 06:44:00 PM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 28, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
Beautiful bow Christian, are you sorry you let that one go?
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Wannabe1 on March 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM
This is the first bow in VM13's post. I got it from him but, thought you might want too see it strung. I just ordered a set of Arapaho "D" limbs for it and will post pics when they come in.
(http://i415.photobucket.com/albums/pp233/TradNut/2009_0316bow0900031.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 28, 2009, 08:14:00 PM
Got new to me limbs today for my Cheyenne.

Foam cores, black glass fronts and Canebrake skins.

(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa121/kyTJ/Bows/P3280585.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 28, 2009, 08:40:00 PM
nice bows
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: larry on March 28, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
here's a few different ones I've owned

 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/cheyenne/cheyenne020.jpg)
 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/cheyenne/cheyenne012.jpg)


 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/shawnee%202/shawnee005.jpg)




 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/shawnee/shawnee014.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: larry on March 28, 2009, 08:54:00 PM
here's one I wish I'd never gotten rid of

 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/dakota/dakota003.jpg)
 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/dakota/dakota001.jpg)

and here's one I'll probably never get rid of

 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/sha3/Shawnee023.jpg)
 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/sha3/Shawnee021.jpg)
 (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y106/lgmarshall/sha3/Shawnee020.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: vermonster13 on March 28, 2009, 08:56:00 PM
Nice bows Larry.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: J. Adams on March 28, 2009, 08:57:00 PM
Nice bows Larry!  I'm envious.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 29, 2009, 02:38:00 AM
very nice indeed.....gonna have to order one pretty soon i think.hey tj..you wanna hunt elk on the coast this year? i finally got my brother to tell me where they got that world record roosevelt bull at.i'm kinda limited on elevation and this is a great spot.gonna hunt it early season.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: kota-man on March 29, 2009, 10:11:00 AM
Tom...Those limbs look GREAT on your riser!

Cory
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: KentuckyTJ on March 29, 2009, 10:17:00 AM
Thanks Cory. I'm glad you are getting a new Morrison. Don't forget to post picts here when she arrives.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Huntrdfk on March 29, 2009, 11:13:00 AM
Shawnee with Dakota limbs,(limbs are now V13's), soon to have foam core Arapoho limbs....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/huntrdfk/P1010315.jpg)


David
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: PAPA BEAR on March 29, 2009, 12:25:00 PM
think i'll skip the foam limbs though,go with bamboo
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: Wannabe1 on March 29, 2009, 12:45:00 PM
Larry, I just ordered a set of Arapaho limbs and they are bamboo. Kind of wanted to keep in tradition with my other bows. I think bamboo is such a great performer in limbs I couldn't change. Good luck and hope you get one soon! They really are sweet shooting bows.
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: deertraks on March 29, 2009, 02:09:00 PM
Here is my Shawnee. Now it has some carbon limbs with Macasser Ebony lams on it.
(http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s226/deetraks/DSCN0498.jpg)
Title: Re: morrison pics
Post by: A.S. on March 31, 2009, 12:05:00 PM
Here is my new-to -me Shawnee. Riser is Macassar ebony with cocobolo flare. Dakota foam/carbon limbs with kudu tips.

Thanks again tradman!

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w3/bowcrazy_photos/DSC_1617.jpg)