I think I want to get into shooting a longbow. After some thought and window shopping for a custom or vintage bow, I may look into whatever Bear or Martin have to offer. Which of these companies make the highest quality longbow? Which is the best bang-for-the-buck? Best warranty/customer service? Again, I am starting my search for a new production bow right here with this question and I hope some of you will offer your thoughts please. Maybe besides Bear and Martin, I might be steered to another company. Your help (any help) is MUCH appreciated!
If it matters, I will be looking for a 40-45# longbow. Any suggestions about specific models would be helpful too! Thanks.
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I think Martin's customer service is outstanding. If you watch the classifieds here I think you will find yourself a pretty good deal. There have been several Martin's and Bear's for a good price. The Bear grip is different than the Martin so if you can go to a sporting shop and feel the difference that would help you out alot. Good Luck! Just beware I tried a longbow and got rid of my recurves..Henry
I would suggest shooting as many different types as possible, and remember while you don't have to spend a fortune, you do get what you pay for.
IMO the main factor that in long bows is the style of grip, some are more shooter friendly than others. There is also limb desing - deflex / reflex or straight, length of bow etc. Alot of things to consider, so in view of the investment you will be making take your time and research. I just bought a Great Northern Bush Bow and love it.
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There's a boatload of great longbows out there. Shoot as many as you can, and pick the one that you like the best. You mentioned Bear and Martin, the Montana and Savannah are both pretty well regarded. The Savannah is probably a bit spendier than the Montana, and it's a reflex / deflex bow.
I've got a 45 pound Savannah and love it. It's a sweet shooting bow....
A longbow from Marty ,aka"Apex Predator" longbows would be a good choice as well.RC
I was recently in the same position as you . some of the guys on here gave me the advice of looking for a used bow on here.they felt that ,that would be the way to get the most bang for the buck. I had lots of replies and narrowed it down to the one that fit my needs.Ive been shooting the bow now for the last three days and i love it!
If you like the looks and I do, the Martin's are better bows than many "customs" that offer more choices in woods and little else that is superior. Just because a guy builds them in his garage doesn't make them better bows than those being built in Martin's "factory." I prefer any longbow that has a longbow grip and that true "D" shape when strung. Part of the fun for me was learning how to grip/shoot one. I already had the recurve grip down. :) Anyway, that's my way of applauding your going in this direction! :thumbsup: Oh! When I say this, it is NOT in reference to the above bows! :)
I recently picked up a Mohawk LB from vince 9mohawk Longbows) and I've got another with the exact same specs on order with him. I'll end up only keeping one, but I'm extremely pleased with the one I'm currently shooting.
Good luck with your choice.
Try and make it to one of the bigger shoots with lots of vendors and bows for sale. You will get to shoot'em and see what fits in your hand the best. I would'nt start out with a custom bow.
Sportsmans Wharehouse is closing 20-30 stores nation wide. I was in one that had martin and bear bows 200-300 LESS than they normally sell for at the BP shops. A great deal!!
mohawk....mohawk....mohawk.... :readit: great bows and a great price.imho..i have shot few longbows that shoot as smoothly and totally quiet as a mohawk...i been on a recurve binge lately but mohawks are in the near future,and they are plenty fast also.if i had one i'd ship it to you and let you try it out..go to mohawkbows.com and see if he may let you test one before you buy it...larry
Well, I'd also recomend looking for a good used bow or a lower end custom. For $300 to $400 you can get a darned nice bow. If you look long and hard, you could spend half that.
That said, you asked about the Martin and Bear bows....I'm kinda like Curveman in that I appreciate the looks and craftsmanship of any bow as much as it's performance. I've never shot either the Martin Savanah or the Bear Montanna but I've looked them over, strung them up and pulled them both. Without a doubt, the craftsmanship is about three times greater in the Martin bow. However, it's about twice the price of the Montanna....
The other option is to buy the Montanna and a couple files, rasps and sandpaper and finish building it. To me, it just looks like a bow nearly fresh out to the press. Nothing much is smoothed out, blended etc. The tip overlays are four times bigger than they need to be and the handle isn't rounded out very well. There have been quite a few guys here who have "refinished" a montanna and turned it into a pretty darned nice bow. I'm thinking about getting one for my daughter in the future and making it "purty" for her.
Comparing the draw, I thought the Martin was smoother but I pull about 31-32 inches. The Martin Savannah does have more reflex deflex also so it makes sense that it would be a little smoother and maybe a little faster.
Lastly, you're from Indiana I see. Wait till July and head to Marshall, MO and go to Mojam with about 3 days to burn and you could easily go home with a selfbow of your very own making for almost free. If you don't count the cost of sweat equity and believe me, when it comes to Mojam, there's usually no shortage of sweat.... Take something to trade or cut your own osage ahead of time, pick up a drawknife from an antique store, a 4 in one rasp and a cabinet scraper and you'll be set. Read Dean Torges "Hunting the osage bow" ahead of time and you'll likely find you have yourself a whole nuther hobby coming on strong.
I owned a martin savanah it was a real nice bow. but if I were you I would check out tradgang classfides you can get a much nicer bow for your hard earn money.If there is something you dont know about a certin bow you may be intresrtd in just ask.
All I have to add here is the grip on a montana is equivlent to holding a 2x4.Haven't tried a Martin.It may put a bad taste in your mouth about LB's like me.
I'm looking at a custom LB with a GOOD grip.
For what it's worth, I owned a Bear Montana and was very pleased with it. Ready for Fastflite and contrary to what some may say, it IS reflex/deflex, although not as extreme as some bows are. Which I believe makes for a little more forgiving bow. It's also cut-to-center. Very inexpensive, especially if you by used.
I'm going to say this, go shoot a Bear Montana and a Martin to see what you like. My son shoots a Bear Montana and is very pleased with his 45# longbow. He has had the bow for a few years and has shot others but in his mind there is no differance. He has no desire to sell or get another one. That is the best deal in the price range. If you can wait you will see them both for sale used. If you decide new the price differance between the two is a lot.
Harvey, where in Indiana are you? There's alot of people here from Indiana with alot of bows to shoot! Could you go to 3 Rivers one day and shoot alot of bows they carry? Cloverdale's Nationals is comming up in June, a great place to try different bows and meet some great people, new friends and old! My advice, Buy the first bow that shoots good, feels good for You! Try to make it out to a local shoot and try some bows out.
Are you left handed? There's a longbow on the classifieds here that I'd recommend...Fred Anderson Hyak.
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As a first Longbow? I would recommend a Mohawk as well. First of all the price is great 425.00 for a Custom Longbow with four lams of Bamboo [if you want]. Very easy to shoot,smooth to draw,DEAD quiet, no handshock, and surprisingly quick for a Longbow. Plus Vince is good people. Vince is a Sponsor here. Go to his web site and read his history-why he started building bows. :readit: :saywhat: :archer:
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Have both the Savannah and Montana. A Mohawk (64" 56#@28 Bocote & boo) was delivered to my door a few hours ago. You absolutely won't go wrong with a Mohawk. It is everything the other owners say. Impressed beyond belief. Call Vince you will be taken care of.
William
I wanted to try a longbow after shooting recurves. I first bought a Bear Montana. It was 50# and seemed to pull heavier than that. It also was a bit hard in the hand and didn't have a very nice grip. So I tried a Martin Savannah 50# at Cabelas and it was nice to shoot but pricey. A lot nice finished and much smoother than the Montana. Lucky for me, I took a little while and was able to buy a used Martin Vision for $200 with the original bowsock and in very nice condition, very similar to the Savannah but now discontinued. 50#. It has a nicer grip than the Savannah for me since it's partway between the longbow grip and partway between the recurve grip. It's a locator grip which makes it easy to hold and you hold it the same all the time. Nice reflex deflex and shoots faster than the Savannah. Shoots very fast generally speaking. Draws and shoots nicer than the Montana. Once again in my opinion. The newer bows had a reinforced nock (you can tell because there is a layer of black glass under the wood) which allows for a fast flight string. I got one to replace the string it came with which was a flemish and sort of getting worn, and it really pepped things up. I don't regret trying a longbow. It took some searching. I would be willing to invest in a custom bow now that I would know what I wanted. But I like this Vision so much I don't think that will happen for a while. Good luck with the search.
sam
Shoot as many as you can get your hands on and then see what works best for you.
Jer Bear
There are so many great bows out there and grip styles.
I would like to mention that I also bought a new 3 Rivers Solo bow and as much as I love 3 Rivers, would not recommend it. It pulls heavier than listed and is pretty rough in the hand. Not bad for the money but you can get a used martin or bear for the same money if you shop. BTW, I understand Martin will make you a new vision bow on special order if you want one. That would be pretty pricey however, and there are nice used ones around in the 200-300 range. Look for a newer model. They were discontinued in 2008 so you should be able to get a fairly new one.
sam