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Title: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: Red Boar on March 12, 2009, 11:54:00 PM
Considering trying some carbons and wonder specifically about these two shafts.   Compare/contrast anyone?  My new set-up:

Super Shrew 56 lbs.
draw length 26.5
arrow length 28 inches
210 gr. Silver Flames

Thanks.    :notworthy:
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: pdk25 on March 13, 2009, 12:18:00 AM
AD trads are great arrows.  I know some will disagree, but I far prefer them over the grizzly stiks.  I think they are tougher and more forgiving.  I also really don't care for the high gloss finish of the grizzly stiks, but that is me.  Alot of people swear by them.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: jonsimoneau on March 13, 2009, 12:23:00 AM
both are excellent
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: jrchambers on March 13, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
for some reason the ads are more forgiving. i also think that you probaly wouldnt want to cut them with your lbs and draw.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: hunt it on March 13, 2009, 08:51:00 AM
I shoot the grizzly sticks (ALASKANS)alot. If you want a real big heavy arrow then they are a good choice. If you like AD's then the Hammer head is the one you would compare to the grizzly, these too are an awesome shaft. I've shot both out of all my bows from 65# up to 75# and they fly well.

I've also shot them both out of my 53# bow, and fly fine. They should fly well for you as both the AD's and the grizzly have a great ability to fly out of a wide range of bow weights. All this said, shooting a bow of your weight I would recommend you try one of the skinny carbons such as the MFX or Axis. There is no doubt that the skinny shaft will penetrate better than the thick shaft. Your choice on broadheads is fantastic and if you wanted more weight you could use a brass insert on the skinny's.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: Steel on March 13, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
I have both AD's are more forgiving over a wide range of bow weights and tip weight. The grizzly is tougher and much harder to break.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: frassettor on March 13, 2009, 12:46:00 PM
Why are the Grizzly's "tougher"? Are they thicker walled  :confused:
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: pdk25 on March 13, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
I'm curious about that too, because my experience was that with tough hits the grizzly stik split much more frequently than my AD trads.  The brass inserts seem to hold tighter in the AD trads as well, in my experience.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: Red Boar on March 13, 2009, 02:14:00 PM
Thanks for all the great responses!   :readit:  I continue to be impressed by the tradgang members willingness to help others.    :notworthy:
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: Walt Francis on March 13, 2009, 03:00:00 PM
I have used both and they both preform well, can't say I liked one better then the other.  Now I only use the AD's because the service I received from Alaska Bowhunting Supply was....to put it nicely "Lacking" so my business is now done elsewhere.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: WildmanSC on March 13, 2009, 03:06:00 PM
If I was you, I would choose the GrizzlyStik Sitkas.  They would fly great out of your bow and with your broadhead weight and the 75 gr insert that comes with them.  I'm shooting them with 125 gr heads out of my 46#-48# bows and they fly like darts and have great impact at the target.

Bill
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: Steel on March 13, 2009, 04:48:00 PM
I have a concrete wall behind my hay and bow targets whenever I throw a wild shot or miss the target and a arrow slips between the bale cracks I hit the wall. Every AD that has hit the wall crushes the front of the arrow. I have bounced a few of the grizzly sticks of the same wall and the nocks pop out the back but the arrow has no damage. To me that makes the grizzly a tougher arrow. Still I like the AD's best being easier to tune and I have never had any issues on game with them so the AD's are my first choice when it comes to arrows.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: Ted Fry on March 13, 2009, 05:15:00 PM
ttt
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: LocDoc on March 13, 2009, 06:34:00 PM
OK I'm stupid....
What's 'AD' stand for?
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: paleFace on March 13, 2009, 06:44:00 PM
LocDoc AD = Arrow Dynamics    :knothead:  

just kidding, I ask the same ???

I have shot both and like them both.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: Gil Verwey on March 13, 2009, 06:47:00 PM
I shoot CX Heritage shafts. They are heavy and tough.

I had Grizzly Stick Sitkas and just gave them to somone to try. I split the ends of the Sitkas shooting into an excelcior bales (not frozen). I had Grizzly Stick 75 grain brass inserts and glued them with JB Weld as they recommend. I lost more inserts and split more tips than they are worth. My wife took them and used them in the garden for tomato sticks.

I couldn't bring myself to sell them to someone, so I gave them to someone that was concidering buying them.

They look like a beautiful fly rod, but in my opinion they can't compare to the CX Heritage in toughness.

Gil
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: LocDoc on March 13, 2009, 07:14:00 PM
Thanks Paleface,
Guess I need to get out more often.
I thought for a minute they were talking about the Traditional only shafts sold by 3 Rivers now a days. I have not heard any feedback on them at all.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: jrchambers on March 13, 2009, 07:56:00 PM
what is the $ diference between sitkas and trad heavys.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: Red Boar on March 13, 2009, 08:40:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gil Verwey:
I shoot CX Heritage shafts. They are heavy and tough.

I had Grizzly Stick Sitkas and just gave them to somone to try. I split the ends of the Sitkas shooting into an excelcior bales (not frozen). I had Grizzly Stick 75 grain brass inserts and glued them with JB Weld as they recommend. I lost more inserts and split more tips than they are worth. My wife took them and used them in the garden for tomato sticks.

I couldn't bring myself to sell them to someone, so I gave them to someone that was concidering buying them.

They look like a beautiful fly rod, but in my opinion they can't compare to the CX Heritage in toughness.

Gil
What would I be looking at if I tried the Heritage shafts?   150's?  Thanks.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: elkbreath on March 13, 2009, 08:41:00 PM
I own both, alasksan's and hammerheads.  Right now, I much prefer AD's.  They're not as fickle, easier to get incredible flight out of.   My hammerheads are every bit as tough as any Grizz I've shot, In fact I would honestly say they're more 'tough'.
Title: Re: AD Trads vs. Grizz Stik Alaskans
Post by: leatherneck on March 14, 2009, 01:20:00 AM
I prefer the AD trad lite in the black. They fly well and IMO are indestructable. My buddy uses the Sitkas and breaks them more frequent. I have yet to break one shooting in the year I've used them. I've hit rocks, trees, etc. I shoot similar to your specs 54@27 but I cut mine at 29" BOP. I have 250 grain head with 100 grain brass insert. And you won't find a better guy to work with then Ted.
BTW- If you go with the AD's, you will probably change the nocks. The stock ones are not very durable. I use a nock adapter with a Mercury speed nock.

Mike