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Title: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: Cole on March 07, 2009, 10:35:00 PM
I know these posts pop up all the time. However they are really effective, and I just can't seem to find anyone who knows a thing about traditional archery in North Central Iowa.

I'm shooting a 55lb Great Plains B Model Recurve. I pull my bow 28''. I am looking to shoot Gold Tip arrows for my set up. I would like to shoot a weight forward shaft. Should I use the 35/55's or 55/75's. Is there much of a difference between the black shafts and wood grain looking shafts. Any suggestions about weight and inches combination would be appreciated. I plan on bare shaft planning my arrows to tune. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: sputterman on March 07, 2009, 10:51:00 PM
if ur wanting to have alot of wieght up front u might want go with the stiffer 55/75 so you will have more room to play with your spine and the wood grain shafts are heavier not any stiffer.
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: sputterman on March 07, 2009, 10:58:00 PM
play with this chart a little it might help.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/hkg3sg1@sbcglobal.net/vwp2?.tok=bceRJecBj15UbCko&.dir=/Public&.dnm=Dynamic+Spine+Calculator+Rev1.xls&.src=bc


and windnut u r the man for posting this chart.it helped me save some money and time.thanks
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: Rick P on March 08, 2009, 03:43:00 AM
Cole

I tried several different routes to building a weight forward arrow with 55/75 shafts. None of them worked well in all situations. I finally broke down and spent the cash on a set of "arrow dynamics" "Hammerheads". These are by far the best preforming carbon arrows I have ever shot, they blow grizzly sticks right out of the water! I'm getting double the penetration from the same field point and broad head out of a "hammerhead" when compared to the 55/75's. The dog gone things also fly like a dart out of every bow I own! I still use the 55/75's for small game in winter and ducks but for big game I only shoot arrow dynamic shafts!
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: Cole on March 08, 2009, 08:26:00 AM
I'll look into a set of "arrow dynamics" "hammerheads".  I was thinking of going in the direction of Gold Tips because that's what they sell at my local dealer.. Thanks a ton for the info....

 Regards,  Cole
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: ranger 3 on March 08, 2009, 09:42:00 AM
Is there another way to open this? I can't seem to open it...Thanks
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: wingnut on March 08, 2009, 09:57:00 AM
You need to download it and open it in Excel.

Mike
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: Shawn Leonard on March 08, 2009, 03:58:00 PM
You could go with the 55/75 cut to 29"s and use 225-250 up front. Shawn
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on March 08, 2009, 04:33:00 PM
i can only relate my personal experiences with carbon shafts and arrows.  following the accepted spine charts and shaft selection wisdom proved a waste of lots of time and money for me.  i came slowly to realize that weaker carbon shafts with high foc flew best for me under all shooting circumstances.  my arrow of choice these dayze comprises a beman 500 bowhunter (ics venture) shaft cut to 29.25", 350 grains total front end weight, 4" banana 4-fletch.  my bow is a 55# @ 29" mohawk.  the arrows fly fast and true.  ymmv.
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: jacobsladder on March 08, 2009, 04:46:00 PM
i think the chart above is probably pretty good and helpful for aluminums and woodies... carbons are a different animal...especially when cutting short..they stiffen very quickly...

i also agree that the weaker carbons with hi foc fly best...i shoot low to mid 40 bows and use .600 spine carbons.
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: xtrema312 on March 08, 2009, 09:27:00 PM
So far it looks fairly good on the carbons I am testing right now, but there are still variations like stuff on your bow and string.  Even form I am sure can effect how it will work for you.  I have two sets of limbs so I gave it a go for the light ones figuring if that was too stiff I could use them on the heavy limbs.  I also went on the light end of the point weight range I wanted so I could up the point if it was stiff.  The chart showed me that if I cut as short as I could go I was right on so I did it.  Right now it looks like the listed length for my set-up is about 1" short of what I need.  However, I am using 100 gr. inserts and the extra length of those is probably stiffening my shaft some.  To me it looks too stiff by just a little in the light limbs, and they shoot good out of my heavy limbs or with one point size up in weight.  I am still testing.  

The chart is very good to help you see what every changes does and get in the ball park of what you want to use, but I would still cut a little long and work down.  If I had this chart from the start I could have saved a lot of cutting down steps and I would have started with 400 vs. 500 shafts.  What I have will work fine, but I wouldn't have minded a little more shaft weight and length.
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: Joel Darnell on March 09, 2009, 12:18:00 AM
New here but not to traditional. I shoot a 53# chekmate with 55/75 gold tips they shoot awsome and blow through deer.They are pretty tough also, I have one I have shot 3 deer and numerous varmints with and it is still in my quiver.No special mods just a 125gr. screw in magnus. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Help me with Carbon Arrows
Post by: Cole on March 10, 2009, 10:49:00 PM
Thanks again for all the good info..

 Cole