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Title: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: SpikeMaster on March 06, 2009, 01:07:00 PM
For someone with a 28-28.5 inch draw, what would be the best length for a Howard Hill style bow? Would 66" be long enough or should I go with 68" and longer?
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: SCATTERSHOT on March 06, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
According to the man himself, 60" plus the last digit of your draw length. For you, 68". A little longer will be smoother, a little shorter will be a little snappier.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Renaissance Man on March 06, 2009, 01:15:00 PM
Ditto on what Scatter said. You would not think 2 inches would make much difference but it does, you and I have the same draw length and there is a smoother draw out of the 68" version in my opinion.
I have 64 and 66 inch bows and they do perform slightly better and may be easier in a ground blind, especially the 64. But they do not shoot as sweet.
JMHO
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Blackhawk on March 06, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
My formula   :rolleyes:  is to take your height, -2 inches.  I'm 5'10" and like a 68" bow.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: khardrunner on March 06, 2009, 02:21:00 PM
I pull right at 28.5-28.75 inches and I love my 69 inch Tembo.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Indie on March 06, 2009, 02:36:00 PM
Sorry, I don´t mean to Hijack your thread, but I don´t want to open another with the same queston.
What length would you guys recommend for a 31" draw?

thanks,
Stefan
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: bayoulongbowman on March 06, 2009, 02:38:00 PM
The longer, Hill style Longbow the more foregiving , and more foregiving on release, compared to recurve. 66- 68 wood work for ya.best of luck!!!!!
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: SpikeMaster on March 06, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Thanks for the replies, I think I'll go with the 68". Smoothness of the draw is more important than what little bit of speed I might get from a shorter bow.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: cahaba on March 06, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
My draw length is 26 1/2. I still prefer a 68" Hill or Hill style bow. I have owned a 66" and a 68" and the 68" was more forgiving and had less hand shock even at my short draw length.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Orion on March 06, 2009, 03:03:00 PM
Don't want to muddy the waters, but I think you're right in the middle.  I have a 28-inch draw and find a 66-inch Hill more pleasant to shoot than a 68-inch.  Don't notice any difference in smoothness.  To get the same draw weight at a longer bow length, they need to make the limbs slightly thicker.  Don't know exactly how much this impacts smoothness, but it seems to me it would be a wash. Type of woods combined with the bamboo, if any, glass vs carbon on the back, etc., probably have a greater effect on smoothness than two inches of bow length.

I also find the 66-inich more comfortable to carry/ navigate with in the woods.  One wouldn't think an inch on each end would make much difference, but I just felt a little more awkward with the 68-inch.  Really a personal preference thing.  I highly recommend shooting one of each if you can.

Indie, for your 31-inch draw, I'd recommend as long as Craig makes them, which is 72 inches I think.  Talk to him about it.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on March 06, 2009, 05:07:00 PM
I draw 29" when I'm behaving, and my Redman is 66". It's okay, but the next Hill I get will be 68".
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Irish Archer on March 06, 2009, 05:43:00 PM
I'm like Ben. If I do my part, I'll get'er back to 29 inches. I like 66" longbows. If I could notice a big enough difference, I'd go for a longer bow. Until that happens, 66" works for me.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Wannabe1 on March 06, 2009, 05:51:00 PM
I have 3 HH longbows.

A Wesley Special: 66" 46# @ 28"
A Big Five      : 68" 50# @ 28"
HH Half Breed   : 69" 45# @ 29"

I am 6'1" and pull 29". The Half Breed pulls a little smoother but, I don't have any problems shooting the others either. In fact, I shot the 66" Wesley alot last year and hunted deer with it more than any of the other bows I have.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on March 06, 2009, 06:14:00 PM
I draw 28" and I just got a 70" hill style bow. I shoot it way better then any other I own or have tried.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: bawana bowman on March 06, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
I'm going to agree that the longer length is definitely more stable and forgiving.
I have a 29" draw but currently shoot a 62" Monarch Imperial. I love the way it feels and it hits where I'm looking.
Use to have a 72" HH Big5 and could drive tacks with it at 20 to 30 yards. Just felt it was to long for slipping through the Florida swamps.
I'm presently in the process of gearing up to build my own bows again, and the first few will be 68-72" lengths for my own use.
If you need the extra few inches by all means go for it, but I believe any bow from 60-66" is all you really need for hunting distances. (In a longbow)I prefer hunting with a 62".
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: longbowray on March 06, 2009, 06:56:00 PM
I've shoot hill bows for about 30 years now ,and in lengths for 62 up to 70 in  I  draw 28.5 also never had a problem with stacking or finger pinch as long as it made for your draw . just my 2 cent
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: JRY309 on March 06, 2009, 07:01:00 PM
For your longer draw I would think a 68" may be your best fit.I have Hill's from 66" to 70",I draw 27".My favorite for me is the 66" but I enjoy shooting the longer ones also.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Daddy Bear on March 06, 2009, 10:53:00 PM
Spike, 68inch would probably be a good choice with 66inches being a bit faster and handier for hunting, and 70inches a bit more stable and forgiving.

Indie, you drawing a straight handle Hill bow 31inches? If you're using a flat hand with a natural relaxed elbow, you'd need better than a 78inch arm span to draw that far, WOW! A flat hand will not push the handle as far as a high wrist. The length of a Hill shelf from the pivot point to the back of the bow can easily be at least 1/2 an inch or so less than that of a recurve. Also, a slight natural bend of the elbow will push less than a locked elbow. All together can add up to a couple of inches or so shorter draw with a Hill.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Mike Lee on March 06, 2009, 11:02:00 PM
I had six hill bows, two were 66" and the others were 68" and 69". I always shot better with the longer ones. I sold the shorter ones after a few years.

Mike Lee
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: straitera on March 06, 2009, 11:49:00 PM
Strickly personal preference. At 6'2" I've shot (3) 68" longbows for 30 years until this year when I got a 72" 71#@28" Hill. Now I want an 80#er to go with it. I draw 31" & can really tell a difference.
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: Indie on March 07, 2009, 10:29:00 AM
I am 6´3" and have long arms.
With my Bob Lee Recurve I draw 32" but I thought I would probably just draw about 31" with a Hill style bow... might be less.
I guess from what I´ve heard I should go for a 70" or 72".
Thanks,
Stefan
Title: Re: Best length for Hill style longbow.
Post by: SpankyNeal on March 07, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
The profile of the bow can make a difference too. You can generally get away with a couple inches shorter with a stringfollow bow, and not lose any smoothness or forgiveness compared to a longer straight or reflex profile. I have a 26 1/2" draw, and so far one of my most accurate bows is a 68" Miller Old Tom. My 66" bows shoot very well at my draw also, but are not as forgiving of my release errors. The exception is my 66" stringfollow Pete George which is my other most accurate bow. While it's shorter it is just as forgiving as the longer bow. Can't wait for my Sunset Hill stringfollows to arrive - should be saaweet as well! Oh yeah, the grip can be just as important with forgiveness as length, if not more, so make sure you have it sized to your hand especially with the straight or dished styles.

Regards...Ken