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Title: Wood Shaft ???
Post by: Weekend Warrior on March 06, 2009, 12:52:00 PM
How does spruce and Douglas Fir compare?

I'm shooting spruce now 50-55 spine.
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Post by: Pack on March 06, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
The fir is going to be heavier and somewhat tougher.  Both make great shafts.  The fir from Surewood Shafts is very good quality.
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Post by: Jim now in Kentucky on March 06, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
Douglas fir is a little heavier, probably runs a little stiffer and is a tiny bit more likely to break from a glancing shot than is spruce.

At least in my experience.

Reparrow man
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on March 06, 2009, 05:09:00 PM
I can't help with a comparison.

But I sure love my Douglas fir arrows!
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Post by: Boneyard Bowhunter on March 06, 2009, 07:04:00 PM
Yep! I agree, Doug fir makes a great shaft.
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Post by: SuperK on March 06, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
Never tried either but poplar and ramin are my favorites.
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Post by: Fletcher on March 06, 2009, 11:09:00 PM
As stated above, Fir will generally be heavier, just be sure to get matched shafts as fir weights can vary quite a bit.  Sitka Spruce is a bit lighter than the average cedar, but is pretty consistent in weight.  Both make very good arrows, altho IMO fir is probably the best shooting wood arrow species.  It seems to recover quicker than the others.  It also tends to be more brittle than cedar or spruce, so check your shafts carefully and often.  Both the Surewood Fir and Hildebrand Spruce are very nice.
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Post by: suttoman on March 07, 2009, 02:55:00 AM
I had always thought this too (what boneyard said), but the last lot of Douglas shafts I got fly really terrible.  They were very high quality selected ones off Tim (hand selected for my bow weight etc) - but I don't know what I did wrong or what is wrong with the shafts but they fly like rubbish.

My old cheap Port Orfords that I got from one of the local archery shops in Sydney, fly like a dream.  They are not hand selected like the Douglas ones and are a bit bendy - but they work well.

I was disappointed because these were expensive shafts getting them over here.  Not sure if it was just a bad bunch or are the old tried and proven Ports still the best.

Sutto
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Post by: STEVE R. on March 07, 2009, 06:50:00 AM
Those spruce arrows are hard to beat. I am really happy with the ones that I now shoot.
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Post by: Weekend Warrior on March 07, 2009, 09:00:00 AM
Thanks
I guess.
I'll stick with the spruce, mine shoots great also.  
I just thought about trying some douglas fir.
I guess if something works don't fix it.
Thanks Again
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Post by: Paul/KS on March 07, 2009, 11:55:00 AM
I'm going to give some tapered ash shafts a try. I just finished staining them and need to get them nocked and fletched. Mike had them at the Nocking Point...
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Post by: snag on March 07, 2009, 12:43:00 PM
Suttoman, sounds like they aren't tuned to your bow. I doubt it is the woods fault.

Quality douglas fir shafts are just that quality! I have shot POC, sitka spruce, and fir. The Surewood Shafts are great! I like a little heavier shaft in a high spine weight around 80#-85#. Surewood sorts out weight and spine very accurately.
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Post by: SlowBowinMO on March 07, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
It's sad to see some of what is passed off as good wood shafting these days, the Surewoods are the real deal.  Hildebrand's Sitka Spruce is also good stuff.   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on March 09, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Yep, Sutto, I must agree with Tim and Snag, and think there might've been something else that was the culprit rather than the shafts themselves. I'm no expert with wooden arrows, but can't sing the praises of Douglas fir highly-enough.