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Title: bare shaft planing....unexpected results
Post by: plentycoupe on March 01, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
ACS CX 53@27" longbow.

3 fletched and 3 unfletched shafts

So I have been at this for a while and couldn't get any progress with 5575 gold tip shafts @ 29" length with point weights up to 350.

Everything the arrow was doing was saying it was to weak spined, but everything I was reading was saying it should work, or it will be too stiff! Being new to this idea I let me head get torn between what I read and what I saw too much.

I decided to try a friends 7595's@ 29". I added 100 grn brass inserts and started shooting those. First thing I noticed was the arrow shot great with no fletching, so I got 3 more and fletched 2. I shot point weights from 125 up to 175, then jumped up to 250 cause I have nothing between those two.

From 24 yards I got the 125's shooting with the fletched shafts!! The 250's were way too weak as they would shoot left and off of my target. I will trim the shaft down and shoot again today. As I want the point weight to be 350 total if possible.

I guess the point of my drawn out post is that just because it shouldn't be working, or cause others use a different set up, or cause it just might not make sense, DOESN'T MEAN IT AIN"T RIGHT!!!!

Finally I got the progress I was looking for and now I think I can wooop this tuning method. By the end I should have darts!!
Title: Re: bare shaft planing....unexpected results
Post by: plentycoupe on March 01, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
In the sentence about the 250's being to weak, they were shooting to the RIGHT and off of the target.

OOPS

I am right handed

Also have a 6 strand DF97 string
Title: Re: bare shaft planing....unexpected results
Post by: plentycoupe on March 01, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Thanks to all those that kept feeding me info.
And to O.L. for all the assistance.
Title: Re: bare shaft planing....unexpected results
Post by: R H Clark on March 01, 2009, 04:56:00 PM
You might be able to shoot the 5575's if you build the shelf plate out and use less weight up front.
Title: Re: bare shaft planing....unexpected results
Post by: La. bowhunter on March 01, 2009, 05:14:00 PM
I agree with you, everything I was reading said what I was shooting was way too stiff. I shoot a Dan Quillion Patriot 56@ 28 I pull 28 1/2 so I am about 58 pounds or so. I shoot a CX heritage 350 31 inches long with a 50 grain insert and a 150 grain point and footed with 2 inches of 2212 alum shaft glued on the end. According to what I read on here it is way too stiff but at 10 - 12 yards I shot 2 bare shafts with field points 2 fletched with field points and 2 fletched with broadheads all 6 arrows hit in about a 3 inch group. I say all this to say that you might get close reading here but nothing beats trial and error to find what your bow wants to shoot.
Title: Re: bare shaft planing....unexpected results
Post by: R H Clark on March 01, 2009, 10:26:00 PM
I usually bareshaft 25-30 yards.IMHO 12 yards isn't far enough to fine tune.10-12 will tell you if you are way off but the farther you can shoot the better.
Title: Re: bare shaft planing....unexpected results
Post by: JOKER on March 02, 2009, 07:06:00 AM
Plentycoupe,
My ACX CX is 55# @28" and it also likes a verry stiff shaft. I built the sideplate out a little and use an 8strand 8125 string. It likes a beman ics 300 with 250gr up front. Steve
Title: Re: bare shaft planing....unexpected results
Post by: Don Stokes on March 02, 2009, 09:34:00 AM
There's no one formula that works across the board. Two archers with similar setups often get different results, because of the human factor.