So I've taken some advice. I put velcro under the shoulder flap and tightened it up a bit. Then I learned how to bump the quiver with my left elbow after each shot. Those arrows are right up there anymore once you get the hang of where to bump where to reach etc. I am enjoying having a back quiver that doesn't get hung up on stuff or spill the arrows when you bend down. Nice. thanks to all for all the tips.
sam
PS Still like those point to point side quivers.
sam
Someone else has to have this problem. Just got a back quiver that is great but it tends to slide down and at some point, the arrows get too far back and down to reach. So I have to pull it back up and forward and all fine until it starts to slip down again. How do you keep a back quiver in place???
Thanks
sam
They all move around Sam unless you have a weird body shape. You get used to it or put an additional strap on it to stabilize it. I have seen some hunters put a type of material on the inside of the strap to grip so it will not slide. It seems the strap works better though. You may do a search on quivers on this site and ask some of the guys how their design works for them.
I bought a Safari Tuff quiver last year and it changed the way I hunt. No more fanny pack. Tossed out a few things I didn't need to carry anyway and the rest goes in the zipper pockets on the quiver. Holds the arrows securely and quietly when walking.
I like it.
Billy
What I did was attach a length of cord to the bottom of the strap that I can tie around my waste or to a belt loop. This keeps my quiver located where I want it most times and doesn't restrict like the chest straps.
Thanks. I was thinking of putting something like velcro on the inside of the part that goes over the shoulder to keep it more in place. Also thought of some kind of loop or hook on the yoke of the shirt that would keep it there.
Sam
3rivers also has a side strap for back quivers
A Hilll Style Quiver works great.
If it´s made the right way
Not much slipping around.
Stefan
I don't know what it's designed for.....but my safari tuff (arrived, today!) has a small carabiner that I hooked to my belt loop when I adjusted it a little while ago.
No issues with the quiver shifting.
As Indie notes, a Hill Style quiver doesn't move around much. It also positions the straps on the side, not back of the quiver, and the strap is fastened about 2-3 inches down from the top of the quiver, which holds the mouth of the quiver higher on the back. If the strap comes off the mouth of the quiver, it invariably slips down the back making the arrows hard to reach. Something to keep the strap from slipping will help, but the problem is in the design.
Two words:
Side Stalker
I make my own quivers and am partial to back quivers. I agree the design of the quiver is everything. On the quivers that I have made, I make the leather strap about 2" wide instead of 1 to 1 1/2" like a lot of others that I have seen. However, I do taper down the width where the leather strap meets the wearers neck. I find the extra 1/2" or so of leather where it meets the wearers chest, side and back provides just enough friction to hold it right where I put it.
Yeah, I do mine slides all over to, I am going to get a side strap from 3 rivers I think? It really moves around on me !! It is annoying
Shorten the strap and make it fit tighter. They are supposed to slide so you can move them around to get through brush and stuff: you swing them under your arm
God bless,
Jose
Lot's of good tips, including Side Stalker. Something to hook to the belt loops keep coming up and seems to be a thing to try. I like the wider strap idea too. I have one and will try it.
Speaking of Hill style, I was looking at some pictures of Hill and his strap is almost under his arm, which means I should try to tighten that up a bit too.
thanks again. I'll keep youposted on my Success/Failure and what works
sam
Just 2 words..... "Backquiver Bump" :thumbsup:
I tried a back quiver and had all kinds of problems with it.
Went to a side stalker and it was a lot better.
Then I found a Lakota quiver. No problems, no mo.
All is good with the world.
If you look closely at the way Hill, Schulz, Swinehart all wore their quivers, and wear yours the same way, and bump the quiver up with your elbow when you need an arrow, you will find that the quivers don't move around and you won't have to chase arrows to grab nocks. This style of quiver must be made correctly and worn correctly to be used correctly.
+1 on the Safari Tuff Arrowmaster quiver - what a great backquiver, er, sidequiver, er, versatile quiver for any kinda use! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
It felt a bit weird at first, having the quiver go over my left shoulder instead of right (I'm right handed), but after 5 minutes of use it all felt perfectly natural, 'cause this is the most ergonomic and practical quiver I've ever used.
Made some progress with a shoelace from the buckle to my beltoop.Going to try to tighten the stap vs loosen it. We'll see how that goes
sam
I have to give another vote for a sidequiver. That said, you can rub a thin film of silicon sealant on the inside of your shoulder strap. The rubberized strap won't slide around half as much.
Tighten it up...
Silicon sealant is a great idea. Was going to glue some rubber or velcro until you came up with this. I tried to tighten it up like Hill wears his. Strap is almost under his arm. That worked too. I have to try to tap it with my elbow. That' neat.
I have a great side quiver but it seems to get hung up on everything-- trees, doorframes, etc and if you bend over the arrows spill out. Nice for a target shoot but not practical otherwise. I tried some hip quivers with the rubber grippers, but they don't hold many arrows and also tend to hang up on things. I broke one carbon when it got wrapped up in the bow limb and string and I moved the bow forward. Bummer. The back quiver seems to keep then there and out of the way.
Thanks for all your help and I'll keep you posted on what I try. I notice the Hill qiver attached the top of the strap a few inches down from the top of the quiver.
asm
Alot of guys, just get there quivers and throw it on, hell I did for years. Read the message on american leathers about quiver fit. When I went to Mr. Wesley shooting school, he helped me get it right. We moved the quiver strap over on top a little to get the quiver to fit my back right. Now there is no set place for it, because we all are different. Just have to experiment. Mine will move some, as a back quiver should, but not as bad as it use to like your describing.
Getting better. Tightened it up about 4 inches and doing the bump with the elbow. Watched a H.Hill DVD also. He thumped it for each arrow. Had a nice way of putting them back in too. His quiver is different, however. Top of the strap is on the side of the quiver about 5" down from the top. My strap connects to a little V shaped yoke that goes to the top of the quiver. YOu would expect that would keep the thing on your shoulder but it really doesn't.
sam
Ssamac, from what you described, you don't have a Hill style quiver, and using a different type of backquiver might mean adjusting it differently to fit you.....Ben Pearson used a backquiver very successfully, it wasn't a Hill style, yet it fit him and he also used a stabilizing strap. Proper setup and use of a backquiver depends on what style it is and then adjusting it to fit you. Watch an old Pearson video to see how he used that style of backquiver.
i've crafted dozens of back quivers - they all need to be adjusted in one way or another to the wearer, either where the strap is attached, or by adding a second 'helper' strap. also, the quiver length and the full length of the arrows, plays an important role in how the quiver will work and be used.
A back quiver can be challenging for some at first, tightening the strap up can eliminate some of what you describe but I keep mine looser on purpose, I want to be able to shift it around, that is the idea.
The Hill or traditional style quiver offers you the ability to hunt in any kind of terrain, I sometimes slide mine down on my side or low so I can move thru tough country. It lets me carry a lot of arrows along with some items attached to it.
Just a tip for broadheads and to keep them even quieter put a buch of oatmeal or similar wood chip materail in the bottom, drop your arrows arrows in and shake it a little, keeps them sharp and prevents them from bouncing around even more.
i've always found that scott toll's iam backquiver article to be of good interest, with good info.
(scott's a lefty)
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Oatmeal is a great idea. Maybe M&Ms would be good too. Plain or peanut?
My Quiver is not a Hill style. More like the quiver in the above pic thank you Rob. I like the backquiver, and maybe getting one that really fits would be a nice "gift" to myself at some point.
sam
When you go for an arrow bump the quiver up with the bow at the same time after a few times it will get real easy. I have a Hill quiver it feel real good but sometimes it needs a bump to help it out. I don't know if it is the best but I just think it is real cool to wear.
Add a strap to connect to your belt
I kind of like the feel of it too, Steve
sam
I kind of like the feel of it too, Steve
sam
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