i did some shooting today and have played with various point weights and found the 125 to give me awesome flight like a dart! i went from 200 all the way down and like the 125. with this, what is the best "little" that will still give me a decent cutting width and hole size in that weight? i have some small simmons sharks that appear to be about 1 3/16" wide and may do well, but just wanting to exhaust all possibilities before commiting to a particular one, and i know you guys can help.
I like both Magnus 2 & 4 blade as well as Snuffer all @ 125. Mine are on 100 grain inserts, just keep em scary sharp.
I 2nd the 2 and 4 blade 125 gr screw in Magnus heads. Mine are in the inserts that came with the arrows. Standard size I have used on all of my arrows.
Complete pass through on 1 deer and 3/4 arrow sticking out on the 2nd deer this year.
This is from a 125 gr Magnus 2 blade. She left a good blood trail.
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I use the two blade 125 grain screw-on Magnus Stingers on my Easton Legacy aluminum arrows (also use 125 grain glue-on Magnus II's on my POC woodies). They fly great.
I like the 165 gr Zepher No Mercy. Leaves a devastating exit hole and you dont dare shoot at the same dot on your broadhead target. They fly just like field points off my 52 lb recurve.
Yeah, infront of 100gr inserts! I tried some of the old two blade Montecs. I wish they would hurry up and come out with some trad only heads.
I`ve used 125 grain Phantoms as well as 125 3-blade Muzzy screw in heads.I had a 100 grain brass adapter in with them . On 2018`s I did not get the penetration with them that I did with the big 175-225 grain heads. But I don`t shoot a lot of pounds.RC
Another vote for 125 gn magnus stingers.
i am not shooting a lot of arrow weight. they only weigh abot 415 with the 125 gr. points, but fly very good and i think it will be enough for what i need. like i said, i am just trying something. i figured i might as well try it, heck,i have tried everything else within the last month and this is the best flrying set up i have shot yet. i thihk with a sharp--this is where i may have a prob.-sharp, cut on contact 2 blade will do the job as long as i can get one in the 1.25" width, and the little sharks are close, if i can only find blades for them or even more heads. i hear a lot bout the phantoms as well and would love to try the 125 snuffer, if i can ever get the dernd things sharp! i am definatey looking right now, but still want look more into the flight with some help before i decide to go for it. for deer and hogs i think i will have plenty of power for good penetration, or at least i hope so.
i vote for the stingers. 3 successful years and counting.
Stingers are great,,JB
I have been using the 125 gr two blade stingers as well and had good results. I just bought some 125gr screw in WW from 3 Rivers to try on bear this spring.
Hi All,
When I began hunting, Fred Bear was THE guru, and so I used the 125 grain Bear Razorhead for a fair number of years with good results.
If I were in the market for a 125-grain screw-in head, it'd be the Muzzy Phantom. However, you can change out your RPS inserts with Flight-mate inserts and use 125-grain glue-on heads. The inserts are available from Kustom King for both aluminum and carbon shafts.
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+1 for the Magnus Stinger 125's
I have used the Magnus Snuffers in the made-up form at that weight with great success on feral goats.
Well, I used to shoot 125s but got tired of wounding elk and either not recovering or having a long chase in the dark. These days almost exclusively I shoot glue-ons with woodies, heaviest I can find ... with one exception: the ABS 315! Weird as it sounded to me, I've proven to myself that, all things considered (that is, we do the necessary tuning work and maybe have to break down and buy some new shafts), the heavier the weight up front, not only the better penetration I get on targets and big game, but also the best groups. Nature just seems to love lots of weight up front! To each his/her own, and so on ...
Muzzy 125 three blade.
Another one for Magnus Stinger 125 4-blade, and the Magnus Snuffer 125 screw-in. Also like the Razorcap 125, and they just came out with a 125 grain screw-in Woodsman...
Many deer with 125grs Snuffers, can't be beat!!!
Magnus II 125 gr scrrew in, but with 100 gr brass insert, has been good to me. Here are just a couple.
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whatever i get i want it to be very easy to sharpen! i like the looks of the phantom. i have never owned any though. i think they come with a fairly good edge and should be easy enough to maintain, right? i am going to keep searching out the little simmons heads that are replaceable.
the razor caps alos look prtty nice, and very snuffer-like. i know tht nap always has some very sharp heads and the ease to replace the caps will be a plus--anyone shoot these heads?
I like 200-225 grins up front so the arrows that I use the 125 grain heads on all have 100 grain inserts in them. I like the Phantom four blade and Razoecaps.
I've gone even smaller...I use the 100 grain Magnus Stingers. I like the stingers 4 blade because the bleeder blades are very small and don't hinder penetration like the large bleeders do in other broadheads. I also like the 100 grain heads as I think they penetrate much better than a wider cut head. I use 100 grain brass inserts to keep my total weight up to 200 grains. I've now killed 8 whitetails with this setup and have loved the results. Before this setup I was using the four blade Muzzy Phantoms and was not please with the penetration from trad gear at my poundages.
The phantoms are a very hard steel and are hard to sharpen unless you have a KME sharpener.
I've gone even smaller...I use the 100 grain Magnus Stingers. I like the stingers 4 blade because the bleeder blades are very small and don't hinder penetration like the large bleeders do in other broadheads. I also like the 100 grain heads as I think they penetrate much better than a wider cut head. I use 100 grain brass inserts to keep my total weight up to 200 grains. I've now killed 8 whitetails with this setup and have loved the results. Before this setup I was using the four blade Muzzy Phantoms and was not please with the penetration from trad gear at my poundages.
The phantoms are a very hard steel and are hard to sharpen unless you have a KME sharpener.
Oops hit the wrong button sorry for the double post.
If you look at some of FredBear's arrows, he had a his light bear razor bhs on 29" woodies. He had no problem taking any game. I found thru my playing, that the lighter bhs tend to fly like darts and track better to the target. If your shooting in gale cross winds, even a one pound arrow is going to get pushed around. I got caught up in the Ashby stuff and tried the heavy foc theory. Now, I tend to favor my original set up. 125 heads on whatever arrow shaft I choose. I still hunt with some of the old bear razors that weigh about 105 to 110 grains as glue ons or alum. threaded bha. My favorites are the Zwickey's Deltas and Black Diamond 2 blade. They work for me, and my trajectory is much more acceptable at the longer yardages.
mr. chuck, this is exactly what i have found as well. i have tried a lot of stuff lately. i am very ashamed to tell this, but i shot 3 hogs 1 afternoon and only found 1. the shots were well placed at less than 10 yards. penetration was terrible. maybe it was the head was not sharp enough. maybe i was too tight on the shoulders, maybe it was a poorly tuned arrow, heck i dont know what it was...but it wont be that again! i have swapped arrows, inserts, points and everything but myself and bow trying to figure it out. i was just playing with the 125 gr point when i was amazed it flew like a dart and no nock left or right. this is what i m going to try now. i would just love to find one that is about 1.25" wide and either easy to re-sharpen or replaceable. this is where it gets tough, but i will find something soon.
many have already said, to each his own. some like heavy stuff and i know a lot of people shooting heavy set-ups that have great success. i like to be a litte lighter and heve good trajectory rather than a huge dropping arrow that drops fast. it just looks to fly too slow in my bow. i like to think that if you can send a heavy arrow fast, then it will penetrate no problem. if your heavy arrow is already slo, then penetration may not be as well. if my arrow is already moving quick being lighter, it should penetrate as good as an already heavy ans slow shaft. i may be wrong, but i will try to prove myself wrong soon, very soon!
I bought the Wensel Woodsman at 125 a handful of yrs ago and still like them. sharpen easy with a file and fly good with woodies. Cuts a big hole. Methinks they are only called 'Woodsman' now. When I tried alum arrows, I bought adapters for them.
Fred...