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Title: Finished - First Carbon Longbow
Post by: Cupcake on February 15, 2009, 11:51:00 AM
Here is my first carbon longbow.  It has Gordon carbon on both back and belly.  The limb core is maple and the riser cocbolo.

I have been studying composite sandwich theory since I decided to start making bows and intended to make an all-carbon bow.  I was finally convinced I had to do it to dispel some myths about using carbon.  There are those who think carbon will fail on the belly and should never be used.  I think that if the core has enough shear strength that it will work just fine; that is why I chose maple cores.

The bow is 66" NTN and 38 pounds.  The weight came out light by mistake.  Measure twice, cut once.  Also, I used some composite beam theory to determine the thickness of the core and I think it is about 10 mils too thin. I measured the stored energy-per-pounds draw weight at 0.955 at 28".  That is a very high number for a trad bow.  The cast of the bow is amazing for its weight.  No chrony numbers yet but I am impressed.

(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/cupcake1000/carbon38/edit1c38.jpg)
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/cupcake1000/carbon38/edit2c38.jpg)

It is a bit light so, dang, I am going to have to make another.  The carbon looks really cool in the sunlight and that can not be seen in the photos.  I guess I need to find a nice, loving, home for this one.
Kevin
Title: Re: Finished - First Carbon Longbow
Post by: rastaman on February 15, 2009, 12:08:00 PM
That is one pretty bow!  Good job.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: metsastaja on February 15, 2009, 12:09:00 PM
very nice looking bow.
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Post by: razorsharptokill on February 15, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
Very nice! What is the handle made of? Let us know the speed stats when you can, I'd like to know.
Title: Re: Finished - First Carbon Longbow
Post by: Cupcake on February 15, 2009, 01:18:00 PM
Jim,
The handle is cocobolo with maple accents.
Kevin
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Post by: JRY309 on February 15, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
Sweet looking bow!
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Post by: razorsharptokill on February 15, 2009, 01:32:00 PM
Love that cocobolo! Sent u a pm.
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Post by: overbo on February 15, 2009, 01:40:00 PM
I would be very proud if I built that.I've got a triple carbon bow from Chris Cox that's insanely fast.
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Post by: SlowBowinMO on February 15, 2009, 01:44:00 PM
Wow, you are gifted!   :thumbsup:
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Post by: Tater on February 15, 2009, 01:52:00 PM
Stunning!!!!

 
   Good thing this one turned out too light, can't wait to see the next creation!
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Post by: LKH on February 15, 2009, 01:58:00 PM
Just curious why the myth that carbon on the belly will fail has persisted?  I have Harrison's and he's been doing it for years.
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Post by: larry on February 15, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
when you get the next one built, give me a shout, I'd be happy to give it a loving home
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Post by: Chris Surtees on February 15, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
:thumbsup:     :thumbsup:
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Post by: Bullet_Bob on February 15, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
Make me a 50-55#@28 and I will test the carbon Belly for failure.    :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Buckeye Trad Hunter on February 15, 2009, 03:04:00 PM
That is one great looking bow!  :thumbsup:    :notworthy:
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Post by: Over&Under on February 15, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
Outstanding!!!!!
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Post by: wollybear on February 15, 2009, 03:12:00 PM
looks GREAT""  :thumbsup:    :clapper:
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Post by: M60gunner on February 15, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
From what I have read about failure it was partly due using Action Boo type core lams. Seems some folks try and grind down bamboo flooring for lams. Those folks seem to think it was the glue holding the bamboo lams together that caused the problem.
I haven't seen to much lately on this subject so maybe the issue has been solved?
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Post by: M60gunner on February 15, 2009, 03:31:00 PM
Kevin, another great job. Now about those ILF limbs....
Tom
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Post by: Wild Russian on February 15, 2009, 05:42:00 PM
Kevin, congratulations!
Max
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Post by: MYSTIKBOW on February 15, 2009, 06:12:00 PM
WoW Kevin that is absolute beauty!  Excellent work! Wish it were a lefty. My wife has been looking to get a longbow around that weight range and that would be PERFECT!
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Post by: Chortdraw on February 15, 2009, 06:21:00 PM
Very well done. Looks like you are on the way. Good luck and happy bow building.
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Post by: koger on February 15, 2009, 06:51:00 PM
Stunning good looks!! What would you take to make one at about #46?
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Post by: Osagetree on February 15, 2009, 07:06:00 PM
Very nice!
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Post by: Bob Sarrels on February 15, 2009, 07:22:00 PM
Fine lookin bow,  curious to find out how the carbon holds up on the belly.
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Post by: Wannabe1 on February 15, 2009, 07:56:00 PM
Yep!   :bigsmyl:
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Post by: L. E. Carroll on February 15, 2009, 08:03:00 PM
Beautiful, You should be very proud of that one. Love the grip style and choice of woods.
 :clapper:    :clapper:
Gene
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Post by: DesertDude on February 15, 2009, 08:09:00 PM
Simply put..... Perfect Kev....   I can't wait to shoot it. You have done well my friend.
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Post by: joekeith on February 15, 2009, 08:11:00 PM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: hill boy on February 15, 2009, 08:31:00 PM
I am impressed!Soooo how much?  :D
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Post by: ron w on February 15, 2009, 09:53:00 PM
It may have come out lite, but it's pretty. Very nice work.
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Post by: vermonster13 on February 15, 2009, 09:57:00 PM
Very nice looking bow.
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Post by: redant 60/65 on February 16, 2009, 10:16:00 AM
She's a beauty Kevin, I really like the woods and the low grip.  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
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Post by: beachbowhunter on February 16, 2009, 11:35:00 AM
Sorry guys, that one has my wife's name all over it! She may be the first member of the Garlock ProStaff - now if she only had time to shoot...  :D
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Post by: Bjorn on February 16, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
Way to go Kevin!!
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Post by: razorsharptokill on February 16, 2009, 07:08:00 PM
Sorry to hijack this thread but while we are on the subjectof carbon ...I was wondering about this combo. Boo back, carbon core, and an exotic wood veneer under glass. .020 is the thinest carbon Binghams offers. I'm wondering if it would come out too stiff with boo, carbon, and glass combined? How thin would the glass belly have to be to keep a 64" longbow around 45-50 lbs? Would the glass belly hold up and would the carbon over power the boo back and cause it to fail? Has anyone ever heard of this combo and how it faired?
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Post by: StickBowManMI on February 16, 2009, 08:49:00 PM
Nice looking bow! Your wife should be pleased with you! Hope that she enjoys shooting it.
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Post by: Apex Predator on February 17, 2009, 05:19:00 AM
That's a great looking bow!  Good job.
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Post by: csdqm2 on February 17, 2009, 06:51:00 PM
That is absolutely gorgeous...... YOU SUCK:p