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Title: Searching for a File...
Post by: Hornseeker on February 12, 2009, 10:30:00 AM
I am looking for a file, a buddy has one, his is a 14" long "Bahco"  that he bought from 3 Rivers years ago to sharpen Grizzlys...

I cannot find this thing... does anyone know what these files are called? i thought they were used for shaping bondo and such in the auto-body industry... but I cant find them. That have very coarse, curved teeth... His is 14" long...which makes it very nice.. I used it to take some grizzly  down to the right angle and such once and it was remarkably fast and easy..

Thanks for any help. If there is any other "really good" files you know of... please let me know!

Ernie
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: vermonster13 on February 12, 2009, 10:39:00 AM
The one you really want is a Nicholson (by Cooper Group, Apex NC) flexible standard Superior Milled curve toothed file 14" model 50-908 #20189 comes in a red backed clear plastic sleeve.

Check this thread out.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065714;p=1

Works awesome.
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Sharpster on February 12, 2009, 10:43:00 AM
Ernie,

I have some 14" radius tooth "panzer" autobody files that you're talking about. I haven't gotten them up on the website yet and Molson is field testing one for me right now. Hopefully, he'll chime in and give us an update. They sure will take a ton of metal off in a hurry. Give me a call if you like.

Ron
800 561-4339
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Hornseeker on February 12, 2009, 11:03:00 AM
Cool. I'll talk to you soon Ron and thanks for the link Dave...
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Sharpster on February 12, 2009, 11:03:00 AM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but, I understand that Nicholson is yet another company to shut down their manufacturing opperations in the US. I believe their files are being made in South America now and have heard that there may be some QC issues already.

That's why we're trying to find a good quality substitute for the Nicholson... Man, doesn't that get my goat!    :mad:  

Ron
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Hornseeker on February 12, 2009, 12:25:00 PM
http://westsidedelivers.com/item.asp?PID=17657

So this is the one... BUT...is "this" one made in America or somewhere else... Dang it..

Does Grobet make one? How about this Bacho?

Ernie
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Hornseeker on February 12, 2009, 12:33:00 PM
http://www.icscuttingtools.com/Files.htm

http://www.icscuttingtools.com/catalog/page_353.pdf

???
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Sharpster on February 12, 2009, 01:16:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Hornseeker:
 http://westsidedelivers.com/item.asp?PID=17657  

So this is the one... BUT...is "this" one made in America or somewhere else... Dang it..

Does Grobet make one? How about this Bacho?

Ernie
Ernie,

I'd call them and ask someone there to check to see if it says "Made in the USA" on the package... If it does, I'd buy it. The price seems too low though, have them check to make sure it's the right file.

Ron
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: metsastaja on February 12, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
problem whit westside order is minimum of 6 if you read the fine print.

Must be ordered in multiples of 6.
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: bayoulongbowman on February 12, 2009, 01:23:00 PM
Buy American
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Hornseeker on February 12, 2009, 02:22:00 PM
Well...I'd buy 6 if they were the good ones, cause I could surely pawn the rest to you guys!!

E
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: vermonster13 on February 12, 2009, 02:26:00 PM
That's what I have Ernie
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Ray Hammond on February 12, 2009, 02:26:00 PM
the problem with most of the cheap stuff is the grizzly will wear that bad boy out in a few heads.
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: vermonster13 on February 12, 2009, 02:28:00 PM
This one will trim your nails/finger-tips real good for you if you don't pay attention. The Grizzlies are butter on it.
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Ray Hammond on February 12, 2009, 03:01:00 PM
Dave,
are you speaking about the Nicholson? I was talking about the Bachos or whatever else he was listing.

The Nicholson is the gold standard if made in teh USA. If they've moved to SA or Indonesia or Slovakia, they don't have the steel quality Apex, NC had in its operations.
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: vermonster13 on February 12, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
I have the Nicholson made in NC Ray.
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Hornseeker on February 12, 2009, 04:14:00 PM
I'm thinking that if we can find something German or Swiss it would also be of top quality... I am going to check and see if they have american made Nichols still...
That Balcho or whatever it was called, was like $60... so I would hope they are good???
E
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Molson on February 12, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
As Ron mentioned earlier, I picked up a file from him a couple weeks ago.  I've done seven Griz 190's, some Snuffers, and some Woodsmans on it so far without any problems at all. These are not Nicholson's but they are every bit as effective. They cut clean with either light or heavy pressure and leave a pile of fine metal dust behind.  I cannot completely attest to the durability yet compared to the (USA made) Nicholson simply because I haven't had it long enough.  

Don't overlook these files if you're a three blade shooter. A few strokes to your Snuffer will remove the factory grind effortlessly and save the teeth on your Grobet.  Want to make that "precision ground" advertising on your Woodsmans ring true?  Run them on this file first.

I know from meeting and talking with Ron, he's only satisfied with providing the best products available, so give him a call and pick one up.
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Hornseeker on February 12, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
I will...
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Sharpster on February 12, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
Thanks Molson,

I appreciate the kind words. My primary interest was to get some feedback on these files from someone with experience with the Nicholsons to see if the ones I have are of similar quality. Please keep us all posted as you continue to "torture test" the file.

We sold quite a few of them at Kalamazoo. If anyone else can give us some feedback, good or bad, please do. Thanks,

Ron
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Sharpster on February 12, 2009, 06:35:00 PM
News flash... Just got off the phone with my supplier. These files are made in Austria and the Rockwell hardness is 60-62.

He also has a even more aggressive chrome file called a "Strawberry file". These are similar to the radius tooth body files but in a very, very aggressive, 8 teeth per inch single cut style. The Rockwell on the Strawberry files is... ready for this?... 70-72!!!

I just ordered a dozen because that's all he had and it looks like these are gonna be hard to come by till the fall. They're custom made and he only orders them once a year. Bummer!!!!

I can only get the Strawberry files in 12" size until his next order and the Panzers are just about gone too. He places his annual order in April and doesn't get the delivery till September... I think I'm gonna be sick...  :(

Ron
Title: Re: Searching for a File...
Post by: Hornseeker on February 12, 2009, 07:25:00 PM
Cool. I'll be calling you.
E