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Title: One shot kill...
Post by: OkKeith on February 09, 2009, 10:14:00 AM
A group of us went stump shooting in my buddy's pasture on Saturday. Besides dealing with a fairly stiff wind, we had a great time and everyone (at sometime or another) made some great shots.

My buddy, the former Marine, made an excellent one shot kill. It was the proverbial double lung on what proved to be the most frequent target species of the day.

I thought I would share the "hero photo" we took immediately following the kill.


 (http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m150/OkKeith/poopshoot.jpg)


In the photo you should be able to make out the footings we are all using on our wood arrows now. It is simply 2-3 inches of alum. arrow shafting with an insert, glued over the end of our POC and spruce shafts. This provides increased FOC, the ability to interchange screw-in points and provides for a tougher arrow for the occasion that a suicidal rock leaps in front of an otherwise well placed shot.

OkKeith
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Dave2old on February 09, 2009, 10:28:00 AM
Keith -- what are the relative sizes of the shafts -- say, 11/32 woodies and what size aluminum? Nice snug fit? Any chance for some close-up photos? dave
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Kingwouldbe on February 09, 2009, 10:35:00 AM
Keith was this a depredation hunt?

Or does the state require you to eat your kill?

I'm not saying, I'm just asking    :scared:
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on February 09, 2009, 10:56:00 AM
Very rare beast indeed..I would have a full mount made of that puppy..bhfp
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: unclewhit on February 09, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
bhfp, you've obviously never been to Montana.
Montana's overrun with them critters, not very rare at all.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Kip on February 09, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
The young ones are real tender eating.Kip
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Kingwouldbe on February 09, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Kip:
The young ones are real tender eating.Kip
:biglaugh:     :biglaugh:     :biglaugh:
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: OkKeith on February 09, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
Dave-
For our 11/32 shafts we use a 2413 Easton shaft. If the clear-coat on your arrows is very thick, you may have to sand the arrow shaft a little to get it to slide on and allow a little space for the glue.

We use high-test, liquid super glue and have had no failures yet. The first few I made, I used 2-hour epoxy. Great holding power, but it pushes through the back of the insert and ruins the threads. I will shoot some pics tonight and post those tomorrow if that will work for you.

David-
I guess this would have been a depredation hunt. I am a pretty good cook, but I'm not sure I could make a meal out of that which wouldn't taste like crap. We left them lay, but there seems to be plenty.

This is one hunt where you want to make sure that the ones you shoot have a little age on them. The older they are, the better. If you make a mistake and shoot a young one, there is a self-inflicted penalty, especially if you have white fletching.

Richard-
There must be a micro-climate, habitat thing going on in that pasture. We saw quite a few. The larger concentrations were localized though. There were heavy populations adjacent to the pond and around the feed troughs. There was one, right in the middle of the driveway, but my buddy wasn't sure how it got there. It could have been a genetic variant that wandered in.

I think he was going to try just a skull mount. He put it in with some beetles, but I haven't heard how that is working out for him. I will keep you advised.

OkKeith
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: OkKeith on February 09, 2009, 12:43:00 PM
Jeffrey-
I don't know... they could be like Prairie Dogs. Just because there are plenty of them, doesn't mean they aren't rare...right?

Kip-
What you say is true, but they do tend to stick in your teeth more.

OkKeith
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Cottonmouth on February 09, 2009, 12:47:00 PM
might try them with ranch dressing...seems like anything is good battered, fried, and dipped in ranch dressing....   :knothead:
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: leatherneck on February 09, 2009, 01:06:00 PM
OKkeith,

I'm sure your buddy will correct you as well. There are no curse words aloud on this site. Never, I mean never, call a Marine "former". Shame, shame, shame.   :knothead:    :bigsmyl:  

Anyhow, sounds like you all had a great day. Looks like you might be a tad back in the liver though. LOL.

Mike
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: texbow2 on February 09, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
a canned hunt fore sure, I can see the house in the background.......pure BS...... : )
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: leatherneck on February 09, 2009, 01:09:00 PM
Question, is that a buck or a doe patty? And what's the score on it?
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Greg Szalewski on February 09, 2009, 01:45:00 PM
I dunno, something doesn't smell quite right about this thread.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: sweeney3 on February 09, 2009, 02:08:00 PM
I hear you have to maranate 'em for about a week.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: joe ashton on February 09, 2009, 03:03:00 PM
looks like a crap rabbit to me.
feed it to your garden.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: ron w on February 09, 2009, 03:13:00 PM
You don't want to kill a young one on a hot day!!
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on February 09, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
That there's a trophy as defined by its ability to sail through the air when tossed like a frisbee, the likelihood that it'll remain intact upon landing AND the fact that it'll withstand being hung by a peg as you have inadvertently demonstrated by desecrating said trophy with your Robin Hood shenanigans!
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: OkKeith on February 09, 2009, 03:24:00 PM
You oughta see what a 125 grain JUDO head does to a "middle aged" one at about 12 yards!!

We did have a great time. In addition to the patties (I assume they are gender: female, they are PATTIES not PADDIES/PATRICKS) there was nary a safe piece of wind blown trash or a clump of broom sedge that went unmolested.

I really do think this is the best practice for hunting. No fixed yardages, no fixed shooting positions or angles. Just flinging a lot of arrows and having a good time.

OkKeith
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Dave2old on February 09, 2009, 03:34:00 PM
Keith -- as Leatherneck suggests, "former" Marine is a no-no. The proper term is "recovering Marine"! Semper fi

Also, please do take some photos of your external footing concept, preferably if possible in a "build-along" format, and post them in a new thread with an appropriate title like "Homespun woody FOC footings" or such, which will attract a far larger audience than the current crappy thread (-:]. Doc Ashby thinks this is a great idea and would like to see several of us give it a try. Thanks for the effort! Dave
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: OkKeith on February 09, 2009, 03:50:00 PM
Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa!

I do apologize for the "former" Marine statement. I put that in there because I'm pretty proud to have a friend of that caliber who has served his country with such distinction. Correction duly noted.

Dave-
Will do on the pictures. I currently have pieces and parts lying all over the house. One thing I have discovered is that new shafts without a point taper fit better (and are probably stronger) than retrofitted shafts with glue-ons removed.

I ended up cutting the tapers off with a fine tooth saw, then putting the footing on. What you loose in shaft length is pretty much gained back with the length of the insert inside the section of alum. shaft.

Or, if you have really long arms like I do, you gain about 3/4 of an inch in arrow length.

OkKeith
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: hardwaymike on February 09, 2009, 03:51:00 PM
Keith as stated above "Former" may be the incorrect terminology for said Marine, but you should try "Ex" sometime(that is if you can outrun said Marine or any that may be within earshot).
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Plumber on February 09, 2009, 04:06:00 PM
yes maranate them for 1 week then bake at 350 for about 1hr then flip and do the other side for an 1hr as well. p.s it helps to preheat the oven.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Plumber on February 09, 2009, 04:21:00 PM
yes thats right maranate for 1wk then bake at 350 for 1hr add salt an pepper to your likeing then serve to mother-in- law piping hot.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Plumber on February 09, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
woops!!!
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: OkKeith on February 09, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Plumber,

I thought that was gonna be one of those: maranate and bake on a cedar shingle for 5 hours, then throw it out and eat the shingle; type of recipies.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Greg Szalewski on February 09, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
OKKieth-
Yes please do as Dave suggested with the build along and fresh parts which will spare us the sight of all those arrows covered with guts.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: Chuck Hoopes on February 09, 2009, 05:55:00 PM
That one will make the POOP&LUNG record book!
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: loco_cacahuate on February 09, 2009, 05:58:00 PM
Fresh ones count more points.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: leatherneck on February 09, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
Apology accepted Keith.LOL And hardwaymike is setting you up for the woo woo. It's a sin to call a Marine "former", but it's just plain suicide to call one "EX"! You can run but not faster than my judo  :scared:  

Keith I think you would be better off eating that shingle. Would like to see that build along as well.

BTW- Thanks for the smile you all gave me today with this post.

SEMPER FI back at you Dave.

Mike
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: houseman on February 09, 2009, 09:42:00 PM
Gee, all this time.  I thought we were uncle sams micguided children  ;) ?  Looks like a good time was had by all, good.  Aint that what it's all about.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: LA Trapper on February 09, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Don't eat the big ones.

Billy
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: RRock on February 09, 2009, 11:08:00 PM
Not nearly as mean and not nearly as lean, but still a Marine!!!! or something like that.

Semper Fi.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: leatherneck on February 10, 2009, 01:42:00 PM
Where you been house? Hopefully not eating that table fare Keith is shooting.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: houseman on February 10, 2009, 02:53:00 PM
That's good stuff there I tell ya!  Tried calling you a few weeks back mike.  Been pretty much housebound after shoulder surgery.  Just can now do some shooting again.
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: hardwaymike on February 16, 2009, 10:16:00 AM
Sorry about that Keith. It was just a lil' army vs. marines humor that I, myself, got caught up into, lol. No offense to all of you jarheads out there, I was just kidding about the "ex" thing. Because really, although we are all seperate we are all the same.

  :campfire:
Title: Re: One shot kill...
Post by: kennym on February 16, 2009, 03:46:00 PM
Nothin works better than a double dung shot on dangerous game like that!!

I think he is long armin it a little tho! LOL