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Title: Aluminum
Post by: Moon on February 04, 2009, 10:00:00 PM
Guys,

I have plenty of carbon arrows but I've been wanting to try some aluminum arrows with my bows just to see how they fly.  All my bows are 45@28 and I draw about 29.5" so can someone tell me which aluminum arrow will probably work well for me?

I thought I would try a 31" 2117 or 2114 with a 125 -150 grain tip.  What do you guys think?

Thanks,

Moon
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: Jason Kendall on February 04, 2009, 10:02:00 PM
2114 or a 2016 would be my choice with your set up. I think the 2117 would work to with the 150 up front.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: adeeden on February 04, 2009, 10:54:00 PM
2016 should work real well at that weight.
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Post by: Curtis Haden on February 04, 2009, 11:35:00 PM
Don't know for sure about the 2114 (never shot em), but the 2016 might be okay if you leave it long and use at least 125 - 150g points.  Depends on degree of center-cut on your bows risers.  I'm assuming you're pulling about 49-50@29.5".

A 1916 @ 30" might work also.  I think a 2117 at any length you could get them in would be too stiff.  You could get some "blues" or other cheaper shafts to find out for sure.  Think the only "xx75" or better shafts, other than the Gamegetters, offered by Easton now are the Legacys.  The "500" Gamegetter is a 2016.

I shoot 2016's at 30" and either 125 or 150g points out of my 52@28 longbow which has a 1/8" before center-shot riser, and I draw about 28.5".
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: Schultzy on February 04, 2009, 11:54:00 PM
I'd say 2016's also.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: Matty on February 05, 2009, 12:14:00 AM
$.02 here.... This is exactly why I switched to carbon....Too many Variables.  The charts Dont even seem to be close, you end up spending a fortune Buying and cutting Shafts to find that something (another shaft) works better.  I'm not against it, I just Cant deal with that..
Anyway given my Alum shaft experience I would agree with the LONG 2016 145gr tip
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: bgram on February 05, 2009, 12:32:00 AM
I shoot 44@28 and draw 29.5" myself.  I tried the black Gamegetter 500's (2016), to no avail, even down to 100 grain tips, always went weak for me when bareshafting (I cut them down to 30.5").  My bow is cut probably around 3/16" past center.  If your bow is cut closer to center or not to, then the 2016's may work, but if it's like mine, it may not.  Instead of the 2117's, if you could find maybe a 2018 to try, it might work.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: NDTerminator on February 05, 2009, 07:27:00 AM
I draw 28.5 and all my bows are 52#-55# at that draw length, so your 45# drawn to 29.5 would be in the ballpark...

2117 or better yet a lighter/slightly stiffer  2314 would be just peachy  with 125 grain points.  I get great flight with both & my setups.

When I shoot alums I use arrows that are 29.5-30", 8" wrap, 3-4" vanes, and 125 grain points; the 2117s come out to 572 grains, the 2314s 552 grains.

I prefer the 2314's, particularly with broadheads.

A huge plus for the Trad shooter that alums have over carbons is that each size is spine specific, making it far easier to get a close match with your setup.  The broad spine range of carbons is designed to compliment compound bows where you tune the bow/rest to the arrow, not Trad where you must tune the arrow to the bow.

Another plus with these sizes is that they are a heckuva lot easier to find than stuff like 2018's and 2016's.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: Mike Lee on February 05, 2009, 10:06:00 AM
Sent private message.
Mike Lee
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: R H Clark on February 05, 2009, 10:16:00 AM
bgram
You were probably too stiff with a .500 and getting a false weak reading.I would think a .600 would be a lot closer.
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Post by: Jerry Jeffer on February 05, 2009, 10:44:00 AM
I have a 47#@28" and shoot a 29.5" arrow  2016 or 2018 depending how heavy of a set up you like.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: George D. Stout on February 05, 2009, 11:18:00 AM
2016 will work perfectly with either 125 or 145 grain points; 1916 with 125 gr. heads.  As for aluminum being complicated, HELLO!!!!  They have been the same diameters and wall thickness for five or more decades and you can spine very closely by following the spine chart....realizing that the spine isn't the same as wood, which is spined at a 26" span with a 2# weight.  There is major advantage in having a lot of different sizes since you don't have to buy one ultra stiff shaft and then overload the front end to get it to bend.

By the way.....2018 and 2114 will also work but you will need more fore-end weight....just like you have to do with your carbons.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: Mike Byrge on February 05, 2009, 11:19:00 AM
Here's what I use - my specs are close to yours and I draw a hair under 29":

#1.  Bob Lee t/d Recurve 60" long 46@28, dynaflight string.
--->29.5" 2114 with 125gr point or
--->29.5" 2018/2115 with 145gr
**I have to build the shelf out some to use the 2114's**

#2.  Bob Lee t/d Longbow 62" long 48@28, dynaflight string
--->29.5" 2114 with 145gr point
**A 1916 cut to 29" with 100gr points works well too but it is too short for a broadhead**

With a B50 string I have to pretty much go down a full spine class.  Eg. from a 2114 to a 1916/2014.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: DJTJR on February 05, 2009, 05:50:00 PM
I may be off here so without hijacking the thread i like a longer arrow as it keeps my point on closer in and my gaps smaller for hunting purposes and from a bob lee sig recurve b-50 49# @ my 29.5 draw i am shooting a 2020 at 32 inches with 125g upfront.  Does this seem off to anyone?  or does the length make up the difference in spine?  I like these arrows as the think wall makes them seemingly last a lot longer than similar thin walled arrows i have tried.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on February 05, 2009, 06:00:00 PM
I have a bow that's 45# @ 28. I pull 29 1/2. I've been using the 2117 with 150 up front. Getting them home at 30 yards. Is it the truest flight possible? I'm certainly the wrong guy to ask...

Whoo, I like to see myself type. I'll pipe down now.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: hawgslayer on February 05, 2009, 06:39:00 PM
:campfire:  

My set up will give you the info you need. I get great arrow flight with all of my bows with the EASTON XX75 Gamegetter 500's.(same as 2016). 1916 may work for you also. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: Big Riser on February 05, 2009, 07:13:00 PM
I have 5 bows 41# to 45# 52" TO 66" ALL SHOOT 1916 EASTON LEGACY VERY WELL. MY DRAW IS 29.25
                     GOOD SHOOTEN
                            BIG RISER
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: Diamond Paul on February 06, 2009, 05:19:00 AM
I would go with a 2016; I have a 45@28 recurve w/ ff string, which I draw to 29", and 29.75" 2016s shoot a hair stiff with 175 grain points.  You'll need another quarter inch length for your draw, so you can go to lighter points to get the proper tune for you.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: texophilite on February 06, 2009, 05:26:00 PM
Over the years i have had some experience with aluminum shafts. I have been able to shoot both 2114 and 2018 out othe same bows from 50# to just about 60#. I do cut my arrows at 28.5 in.
I like to shoot 2114 at 3d shoots but much prefer the added weight of the 2018 whem hunting.
Just my experience.
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: elkken on February 06, 2009, 09:02:00 PM
2016's should work fine ...
Title: Re: Aluminum
Post by: Magwah on February 07, 2009, 02:25:00 PM
1916s  or 2016s will spine best for your set up. 2117s spine around 70# might be a bit stiff.