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Title: Elk hunt
Post by: Sharp Shooter on February 03, 2009, 02:49:00 PM

I shoot a Black Widow and Morrison Cheyenne 52# @30, GrizzlyStik Sitka with 220 grain Phantom broadheads, total wieght around 545 grains. Is this combination sufficient for Elk?

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: L. E. Carroll on February 03, 2009, 03:13:00 PM

No worries there !  Your set up is good to go. Just pick your spot, as always wait for broadside or slightly quarting away, and stay within your effective range.  They are lots bigger than deer and that can change your range preception.
Gene

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: beachbowhunter on February 03, 2009, 05:31:00 PM

My only minor concern would be the big bleeders on the 220 Phantom, otherwise, you should be ok.

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: overbo on February 03, 2009, 07:44:00 PM

NO, because elk have hooves and can't shoot bows

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: zipper bowss on February 03, 2009, 08:21:00 PM

There is one (smartalic)in every bunch.Right Steven

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: Richie Nell on February 03, 2009, 08:38:00 PM

Sharp,  There is no doubt that setup will work for the perfect tissue shot.  But I have no idea if it will bust an elk up enough to turn a bad bone shot into a lethal shot.  That is what I would be concerned about.
It is my guess that the trajectory of a 650 grain arrow shot from your bow will not be significantly different from your 545.  That is what I would be trying to figure out.....the heaviest arrow that still was in my personal trajectory acceptance range.
With not a grain left on the table.
That has been my experience with shooting 800 and 1000 grain arrows.  There is not enough difference in the trajectory to NOT use the heavier of the two.  But the bow sure is quieter.
Richie

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: Richie Nell on February 03, 2009, 08:41:00 PM

I just noticed you are from Dahlonega.  What a kewl place.  We go there on our way to Helen.  Kewl place.

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: Sharp Shooter on February 03, 2009, 10:57:00 PM

Thanks everyone for your comments, I'm hoping to go to SW Colorado this fall. This will be my first trip for Elk with a bow. Thanks again!! Tony

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: Richie Nell on February 04, 2009, 07:29:00 AM

Are you going with an outfitter?

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: T. Downing on February 04, 2009, 10:24:00 AM

In my opinion, your arrow should be a little heavier. I like at least 650grains. Why? Because there is a 50% chance of hitting bone everytime you shoot at an elk. Big and tough animals. I always believe that you should prepare for the worst, the elk might move a little when you shoot,etc. Situations like that. I have just seen to many elk that had arrows inside of them do amazing feats of strength in order to survive. My two cents, Thomas

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: Richie Nell on February 04, 2009, 11:08:00 AM

T.  I haven't you post in a while.  I am not planning on going back to Durango elkin this year at Little Yellowstone.  I have decided on a new elkin adventure in Montana.  I certainly do like the Murphy boys but thought I would branch out.
Do you really, really believe your Psalm 27 statement on your posts?

Richie

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: T. Downing on February 04, 2009, 01:33:00 PM

Richie, good to hear from you. I understand completely why you want to branch out and see new country, in some ways, that is what its all about. Oh and yes I completely believe in Psalm 27. Interesting that you asked. Good luck next season in Montana. On a Black Widow comment, just ordered another PLX. Big poundage elk bow, extremely excited, can't wait to get it. Take care of yourself Ritchie, T

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: Richie Nell on February 04, 2009, 02:35:00 PM

Great....I absolutely believe that, I was just checking to see if it was a cliche remark or if you believed it...Kewl again.

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: Dave2old on February 04, 2009, 03:18:00 PM

I would review the Ashby minimums, which you're not quite up to. It's esp. important with lighter bows. Specifically, you need a strong 2-blade head and 650 grains total weight, as much of it as possible up front. Start with the 2007 research report, available on the Ashby forum here. dave

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: BTH on February 04, 2009, 03:52:00 PM

Put some brass inserts in those Sitka or go to the Alaskans with brass inserts. The brass in the Sitka will get you to about 600 with the heads you're shooting. You might get up to about 625 or so with the Alaskans and brass inserts.  I was just watching Masters of the Barebow 2...Fred Eichler is shooting Phantoms out of a 54# @ 28 Palmer...don't know what his arrow wieght for the elk he shot was. That arrow burind up to the fletchings.

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: TradBowyer on February 04, 2009, 04:20:00 PM

BTH.
on one of his videos, he says he shoots about 10 gpp so somewhere in the neighborhood of 550 grains..he has a 30" draw so that helps with the lighter arrow weight.

Title: Re: Elk hunt
Post by: frassettor on February 04, 2009, 07:41:00 PM

I shoot a 58# longbow and shoot the AD traditionals with a 100 gr brass insert, a 160 glue on field point glued on a 100 gr steel adapter. thats 360 gr up front, and a total arrow weight of 710. I THINK THE HEAVIER THE BETTER. Just my .02