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Title: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: ishiwannabe on January 19, 2009, 12:05:00 PM
I just had a herd browse through my front yard. four Yearlings, two mature does, and one HUGE old girl.
The old girl was fat and healthy looking(as were the others), but her tongue was hanging out(about five inches) and she was salivating. No visible signs of swelling or damage. It wasnt just a few minutes, I watched these deer for about fifteen, twenty minutes. Her tongue was hanging the whole time....even while she munched on my landscaping. There was almost a constant "string" of spit hanging off the tongue.

Has anyone ever seen anything like this? Any ideas? I am wondering if she ate something slightly toxic, or if it is worse?

No, I couldnt get pics because I was holding the 15 month old "deer spotter"...he literally checks the windows and doors every few minutes, and once he spots one, will not rest until the whole household looks. Think thats bad you should see what does when he sees my bow or arrows...

Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: ChuckC on January 19, 2009, 12:18:00 PM
the salivating could simply be because her tongue is hanging out the side of her mouth.

Might be a lot of things ..  minor stroke ? Maybe she bit her tongue  (hey  it hurts !) and is keeping it out of the way now.  Maybe she is just goofy !

I probably doubt she has that blue tongue now.

ChuckC
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Post by: Boomerang on January 19, 2009, 12:22:00 PM
She probably licked a flag pole!  :D
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Post by: bbassi on January 19, 2009, 12:22:00 PM
has she been running away from Mikey?   :scared:    :help:
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Post by: yaderehey on January 19, 2009, 12:27:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ishiwannabe:

The old girl was fat and healthy looking(as were the others), but her tongue was hanging out(about five inches) and she was salivating. No visible signs of swelling or damage. It wasnt just a few minutes, I watched these deer for about fifteen, twenty minutes. Her tongue was hanging the whole time....even while she munched on my landscaping. There was almost a constant "string" of spit hanging off the tongue.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: yaderehey on January 19, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by ishiwannabe:

The old girl was fat and healthy looking(as were the others), but her tongue was hanging out(about five inches) and she was salivating. No visible signs of swelling or damage. It wasnt just a few minutes, I watched these deer for about fifteen, twenty minutes. Her tongue was hanging the whole time....even while she munched on my landscaping. There was almost a constant "string" of spit hanging off the tongue.
Has CWD ever been identified in your area?   Drooling is one very common symptom of CWD.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: Killdeer on January 19, 2009, 12:30:00 PM
Do you grow jalapenos?
Could she have a bit of briar caught back there?

Oh, that's right, there aren't any thorns in New York...
Killdeer
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: straitera on January 19, 2009, 12:41:00 PM
Did you notice with her any walking problems? Did she stumble or sway? Not out of the question to call state wildlife and describe to them.

BTW, My dog fetches my judos. She freaks when I pick up my bow.
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Post by: str8sh2ter on January 19, 2009, 12:49:00 PM
Was she unussually fat / as maybe swollen or bloated?I  hope it's not CWD ,i'm in NY also.
Do Deer gwet a fever?like from a wound or infection type thing?
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Post by: Doug S on January 19, 2009, 01:24:00 PM
I have seen or heard of it 2 or 3 times. A Kudu I shot in Namibia had a broken jaw and had lost control of his tongue. I think that was the case with the 2 deer also. Can't really remember the details.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: deermaster1 on January 19, 2009, 01:28:00 PM
i would cal the dept of game and fisheries and just talk to em about it, to get some info about it, and if they are concerned, they could look into it further if they felt it was important.  interesting thing to see, thanks for sharing.
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Post by: mdwatts on January 19, 2009, 01:33:00 PM
As stated previously, it would be good to contact DNR.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: ishiwannabe on January 19, 2009, 01:41:00 PM
No, she was walking fine....eating. No sign of injury or deformation. Her jaw looked fine, except her tongue was out. Her mouth was closed except a little to allow the tongue hanging...
CWD has been in NY, but in Oneida, about 3 hours northwest of here. That was two years ago, and I havent heard of a case since. Blue tongue did hit this summer, but it has been way too cold for bugs.
Killy...I do grow jalapenos, habeneros and many other varieties of hot peppers. Didnt think of that.
She was still lead doe, so Im thinking it isnt a sickness or injury.
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Post by: No-sage on January 19, 2009, 01:55:00 PM
She was just goading you, daring you on to miss.... I mean shoot her.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: Friends call me Pac on January 19, 2009, 02:19:00 PM
She might of had a stopped up nose and it was the only way she could breath.  Kind of like me this past weekend in my treestand.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: ishiwannabe on January 19, 2009, 02:37:00 PM
Right Keith? They know Im telling ya.

I see these deer every day, usually more than once. Im gonna keep my eye on her and if waranted, call DEC. I will let everyone know how it goes.
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Post by: Dave Bulla on January 19, 2009, 02:46:00 PM
My first thought was also some sort of stroke or Bells Palsey type thing but I have no idea if these even occur in deer.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: TradOnly on January 19, 2009, 04:17:00 PM
I just did some research.  There's at least one posting of this happening to deer.  The general consensus is nerve damage from injury or some type of stroke.  Get your camera ready for the next sighting.
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Post by: GRAYBEARD on January 19, 2009, 04:43:00 PM
DEFINITELY CALL FISH AND GAME DEPT.!!
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Post by: Zbone on January 19, 2009, 05:01:00 PM
Seen this condition before on a captive whitetail buck, but have forgotten what they said causes it.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: vtmtnman on January 19, 2009, 06:08:00 PM
I'd say call NYDEC.See what they say.I hope CWD hasn't made it down there.

We had 15 in the  back dooryard the other morning.One had antlers still,one had lost one side,and the other one lost em both.They all shed down there or just starting?
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Post by: O.L. Adcock on January 19, 2009, 06:22:00 PM
I'm not sure but I've seen some democrats and other lefties doing the same thing!  :) ...O.L.
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: Bakes168 on January 19, 2009, 06:30:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by O.L. Adcock:
I'm not sure but I've seen some democrats and other lefties doing the same thing!   :)  ...O.L.
:biglaugh:    :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Just saw a deer...never saw this before...any ideas?
Post by: ishiwannabe on January 19, 2009, 07:23:00 PM
That is funny O.L.

No further sightings today.
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Post by: ishiwannabe on January 20, 2009, 10:02:00 AM
They just came through again. No tongue sticking out and she looks good to go....
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Post by: acolobowhunter on January 20, 2009, 10:31:00 AM
We have quite a bit of CWD here in Colo.  It is in the mule deer, elk and starting in the moose.  I found a doe when I was hunting Mt. Lions that had it.  She was really thin, and layed up near water. She was also salivating very heavy. That is all she wanted to do was drink.  She was so weak that she could not get up.  The guy I was with shot her and piled a bunch of brush on her and burned her.