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Title: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: Curtis Haden on January 12, 2009, 10:47:00 PM
Am I correct in thinking that the PMA's, PSA's, PTF's, etc. versus MA's, SA's, etc. are post-CNC versus pre-CNC???  The "P" stands for "precision crafted" according to the catalog...  What year did BW go to CNC risers?

This is NOT a CNC better/worse thread.  I personally like the idea of CNC'd risers for limb interchangeability without custom fitting.  To each his own opinion.

Just want to know for sure in case a particular classified ad catches me eye...    :saywhat:
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: daveycrockett on January 12, 2009, 11:04:00 PM
yep, p is for precision. Not sure when they started.
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: Bill Kissner on January 12, 2009, 11:12:00 PM
All models did not change the same year. I think the earliest was 2003. The latest was 2005 I think.
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: Curtis Haden on January 12, 2009, 11:57:00 PM
So... safe to say any PSA or PMA will take any post-05 limbs without fitting?
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: L. E. Carroll on January 13, 2009, 03:27:00 AM
Yes that would be a safe bet. However, I'm assumning you realize that you can not use PSA and PMA limbs interchangably, as the risers take different limbs.
Gene
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: snufer on January 13, 2009, 09:26:00 AM
I just picked up a set of limbs that B/W drilled to fit either riser, SA or MA, on the Ma riser there were two pieces added to make up for the gap on the MA riser, unfortunately the extra pieces were lost. But I use them on my PSA riser anyway.
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: Larry247 on January 13, 2009, 10:31:00 AM
I had my son an SA built in 2007, not a PSA.

Whats the differance? I had it made without the "P"henolic.
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: Morning Star on January 13, 2009, 11:38:00 AM
2003 is when they started.
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: mooseman76 on January 13, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
Larry, are the bows much lighter without the phenolic?  

Mike
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: Larry247 on January 13, 2009, 06:43:00 PM
I can tell a differance. I ordered a new PMA in 07 and when i got it out of the box i noticed it was heavier than i remembered. It had been a while since i ordered a new one, and i could tell a differance.
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: Shawn Leonard on January 13, 2009, 10:32:00 PM
The P does not stand for phenolic, it stand for percision as it has to do with the CNC machining of the bows. Most of todays big name bowyers use CNC machines. Shawn
Title: Re: Black Widow "P" models
Post by: Larry247 on January 14, 2009, 09:18:00 AM
Shawn, just tell us everything you know about it.