G'day all,
Well I'm looking into putting together something like this...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v504/Longbow_lad/DSC00106.jpg)
I'm just starting on some homework at this point in time due to be away from home. I already have a footing jig from 3Rivers that I've footed the point end of shafts, I was just wondering if it's doable with the sam jig for the nock end?
If anyone has done so then please post away. Better still a "How Too" on self knocks would be even better!
Regards,
ak.
That is very sharp.Ive never seen anything like that.
i saw the thread title and thought 'i'll have a look at this", then i saw the pic. WOW!! :notworthy:
awesome work AK.
I'm no selfnocker, but I would sure like for you to keep us up-to-date on your progress. Good luck!
A.K. - I've done a few. I built a jig with a much steeper taper (~1" down the shaft). I cut the wedge with a hacksaw blade and sand with 100 grit paper to clean it up. I then take another hardwood like osage or purpleheart and cut into 3/8" square stock. Trim the correct angle with a bandsaw and use a beltsander to finish the "fit". I glue the foot with epoxy and finish with a fine rasp and sandpaper. A word of caution, watch the grain on your nock and so the groove is across the grain. I made this error and split a nock and dry fired my bow. These make really neat arrows. Good Luck - Tommy
That is very nice in my opinion. :thumbsup:
Nice Alan, I used to foot all my arrows but it's been long enough ago that we didn't have "jigs" :banghead: Still got that little Japanese razor saw somewhere...
After I got tired of all the work in a four finger splice I started doing a two finger splice. I sawed a "wedge" on the end of the shaft an inch long or so, then saw a split in my 3/8" sq nock stock, glued it up by pushing down on the wedge on the arrow end. Be sure to put a small C-clamp on the "stock" piece to keep it from splitting. After the glue sets just work it all down smooth, round and cut the string groove. As Tommy sad be sure to orient the groove across the grain.
Yea it's alot easier to glue on a piece of plastic ;) Must be gettin lazy in my old age...
Al,
Steve H has a footed self nock how to on his page...basically a 3/8 spade bit ground down a bit to match the taper of the nock..glue it on and round it.
Have seen some done like this at Lamonts shop (footed shaft) and they were pretty snazy....not quite as sharp as some footed nocks like a regular foot but they were still pretty sweet.
No reason you couldn't use that jig and then taper your shafts on a belt sander tapering jig to nock them down the last 8-10"es...that should keep things uniform and keep from ripping the tips off... Now I need to find a jig to do on the OTHER end to keep from ripping the tips of the foots off lol.
Thanks for all the posts. I'll put up some pics when I get 'em sorted out and underway.
ak.
(http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/gg364/12purpleheart/100_1443-1.jpg)
Hello Al--
Woops-- forgot the write up with the picture...
Here are some of my "Truly Traditional" series four point Footed Self-nocks....No plastic on these. POC with Purple Heart and Grey Goose feathers.
Purple Heart, now that are very very VERY nice ones :thumbsup:
Wow Purple Heart! Some fine workmanship there my friend, I tips me hat to you I do.
PM sent.
ak.
:clapper: Now that is custom. Very nice PurpleHeart.
Walnut, standard internal taper.
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d72/Reparrow/nockwalnut2.jpg)
Reparrow man
Those arrows are objet d'art.
Actually, they are objet de' arc...
:D
Nice arrows too guys.
Beautiful work on those footed nocks gentlemen!
I've done a few myself out of purpleheart but I reinforced mine with a thread wrap for added security.
Do you gentlemen have 'em reinforced in anyway? Like a spline (Alan?) or threaded inlay (purple heart?) Or you do figure the hardwood nocks are strong enough without reinforcement.
Same question to you also Jim. ART B
Art, I have an arrow in my collection that was given to me by my close & late mate, Bill Baker. It has both the point and nock end footed in a 4 point foot and is reinforced with a Warous (spelling?) ivory pin, inserted from the other way that the string would set into the nock.
When home I'll take a pic and post it. I have many arrows in my collection, but this one just hits close to home.
ak.
That walrus ivory pin sounds very unique Al! Looking forward to seeing your gifted arrow.
Since I only shoot selfbows I have to be concerned with arrow recovery so I keep my footed selfnocks as short as possible (under 2"). Here's a purple heart nocked Aspen arrow I gave as a gift that's indexed splined using hickory and thread wrapped (I'm a cautious fellow).
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/artcher1/three-bladedarrow263.jpg)
ART B
Art,
What do you use to seal in the thread on the nock wrapping there? I've been using super glue but was wondering if there wasn't something better out there. dino
Nice work fellas :notworthy: :clapper:
Dino, I believe Art uses super glue on his wraps. He glues the wrap and when dry sands it with fine paper and adds more glue, sand more glue etc. It is actually like a solid band instead of a wrap.
I have quite a few of Art's arrows. I'll post pics tomorrow of an aspen arrow with walnut footed self nock and footed pile.
On the fletch and nock wraps I coat using fletching glue Pat. Any wraps on the pile end I use super glue for added durability.
ART B
Wow, really some works of art here! :notworthy:
Great looking arrows fella's :thumbsup:
This is an aspen arrow with walnut footings that Art gave me for Christmas 2004. If the right situation comes up this arrow will be used for it's intended purpose. I have a few other of Art's arrows and some will never be used except for admiration.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Artsarrow001.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Artsarrow002.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Artsarrow003.jpg)
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/Artsarrow004.jpg)
That is nice! You just gotta love collecting arrows and footed ones at that.
ak.
Al, Art is a true artist when it comes to arrows. I have some he made that I shoot almost every day, others that I save specifically for hunting and a few I hang on the wall to just look at and admire. I try to cover all bases. Pat
That right there is some sweet stuff, real sweet!
That arrow/set was one of my more primitive attemps at footing Pat. Finally gave up on that four winged foot, using a hacksaw to do the shaft with wore me out........ART B
You could have fooled me, Art. I was looking closely today and ain't nothin' primitive about it. You always did like doing things the hard way.
The broadhead is Art's creation also. Hand cut from a saw blade with a hack saw and epoxied on the shaft with a morticed joint making the shaft and head a solid entity.
Art, I cut about 30 hill cane the other day just for you.
Looking forward to getting my hands of some more of your cane Pat! Will have to make you up something special.
Here's the other end of the arrow I posted earlier. Believe you've seen that one Pat. It's the one I gave to Patrick at ATAR.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y232/artcher1/three-bladedarrow267.jpg)
Now, that's a footing!