What are the options for a legitimate trad three blade (cut on impact preferably). Woodsmans, that new 300, what else ? Has anybody actually used these ? How are they
working ? What kind of system (arrow, weight, fletch assembly etc) are you using it on ?
ChuckC
Snuffers, MA-3, Razorcaps, Montec and more I'm sure.
Personally I like the Woodsmans :thumbsup:
QuoteOriginally posted by Barney:
Personally I like the Woodsmans :thumbsup:
Me too!
The Wensel Woodsman on the end of the axis 400s, along with the 100 grain brass inserts is hard to beat for whitetails.
I bought some Woodsmand that disappointed me. I heard that they had a "difficult spell" a while back. I couldn't get them sharp, period. Wore them out trying. I am not normally sharpening challenged. Have they corrected this problem ? How bout the others.
ChuckC
I don't know Chuck.....With all the studies that have been done why would you not just use a heavy single bevel head?
Big Snuffers would be my #1 choice, followed closely by the Wensel Woodsman....
Magnus Snuffers and Wensel Woodsmans. :thumbsup:
Snuffers! Although I'm going to try the 300 ex soon. But for now Snuffers!!!
check out the steel force venom series.
Magnus also make the Snuffer SS. It is a smaller version (100 & 125 screw in only), but just as durable. I've shot 3 animals with the same one and just recently buried it past the blades into an oak tree :mad: . Still spins straight and is sharpened up for it's next victim.
I need to look at some of these. How about ease of sharpening ? As I said, I just couldn't get those WW's sharp enough. I usually have no trouble with sharpening things.
John, does anyone make a single bevel three blade yet ? :knothead:
ChuckC
Chuck I don't so.... I believe that the three blades would "fight" one another which would limit penetration.
i would say if you shoot enough arrow weight and draw weight go with the Snuffers, if your setup is a little lighter go with the woodsman both are very good heads
iv had no problem getting both heads very sharp. trick is getting the faces flat on a file first (draw on the edges with a permanent maker to see where you are removing steel, keep doing that until you take all the marker for the edges with swipe along the file, then you know its flat)
the a few licks on my 8" DMT stone and they are Sharp
as far as i understand the concept / advantage of single bevel is no good once you got to three blades
John P, all the "studies" on single bevel heads have yet to be time tested.
I've killed hundreds of animals with a 3 blade and none of them knew anything about the blades fighting each other.
Chck, the new owners, # Rivers have corrected the problems we had with the woodsman. If you prefer something that's a little less work, the Razorcaps are hard to beat. They're pretty well sharp out of the package and only take some stropping to finish.
Hi All,
When I began bowhunting, I used the Bear Razorhead just like Fred Bear....I was sixteen and he was on TV taking Kodiak Brown Bear with his bow!!! Then I bought some 160gr Snuffers from Roger Rothhaar at the West Virginia Bowhunters Rondy, and that's all I used for years, and years. They're tough as nails, and if you use the nifty sharpening jig from 3-Rivers, not too difficult to put an edge on.
My vote is for the Razorcaps. Stainless steel, and adjustable from 100 to 200 grains with just a ferrule change. I use a Montec stone on mine and can get them sharper than any other broadhead I have.
Snuffers 125gr adapter and 100 gr brass insert.350 gr tip.Iwould try the new extreme head but to small of a cut for me.BOB make them bigger.
Razorcaps have put down every animal I have killed in 25 yards or less, including a 600# cow moose. I also think the Hellrazor would be good, the Woodsman and snuffers. As for penetration, they all have gone right thru every animal except for the moose when the arrow hit the opposite shoulder.
160 SNUFFER.MO, wouldn't go less than a 145gr snuffer.Had some dureablity issues w/ the lighter Snuffer's.
Woodsman. This was the first year I used a 3 blade and was not disappointed. Killed 5 deer with them, all but one was a pass through. The one that wasnt I hit the shoulder, it went through and lodged in the off side one. All this was from a 53 pound longbow, you cant go wrong with it
Thanks guys. I guess I need to spend even MORE money this year to experiment.
ChuckC
Another vote for the Razorcaps... I like the 200 grainers...
Overbo i had the same thing with smaller snuffers ,so i take a 160 and grind some of the back off and change the tip.
I just bought a pack of Razorcaps, and I like them. I really like that they're stainless, they don't rust after you hunt in a little rain. They're not as sharp as advertised, but nowdays, it dosen't seem that anything is. I sharpened WW and Snuffers, they took forever on just a stone, only to rust up if you take them out in a heavy fog. And yes, I do touch up my Rzorcaps after a couple times in and out of my quiver, but I don't have to grind off surface rust.
Here is one of the many deer that have fallen to a 160 grain Snuffer. As long as you get the super sharp, they will drain a critter in a hurry. I like the edges to "grab" a little, meaning leaving a slight burr on the edge. Seems to make a huge opening(shown here).
I start off on new ones with a flat file and finish with a whet stone. To maintain the edge I use a stone
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g128/ad2877/Harvests/10-22-08-2.jpg)
Arwin.... I am sure your choice of broadhead is fine, but really, if you hit them where your picture shows, I think a sharp stick would work well. Great shot placement.
ChuckC
:bigsmyl:
I'm still smiling about that one!!
Hmmm, Arwin, something looks familiar about that shot!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/30coupe/2008%20Doe/11-09-08_0830.jpg)
This was with a Wenzel Woodsman this fall. Sure does make for some short blood trails!
Very good shooting guys! :thumbsup:
I've had great results with both Woodsmans and Razorcaps and can highly recommend both.
very nice shooting guys!
forgot to mention the Razorcaps they are a very nice heads
I killed a #2000 Bison with a WW out of a 70# longbow and a 630 total weight arrow. So, if you were hunting whitetails with a decent weight set up I wouldn't see a problem shooting snuffers if I wanted to shoot a 3 blade. Caribou/Elk and bigger, I'd choose the WW.