I went to let my dog out and he came face to face with a racoon. It wouldn't run, just brisled up and growled. I got the dog away from him and we went inside. I looked outside and the racoon was just kinda standing there swaying back and forth. It didn't leave so I went outside to scare it off. It saw me and still wouldn't leave, acted like it wanted to go in his doghouse.
I went back inside and got my bow because he seemed like he might be sick. I can't discharge a gun in our subdivision which is why I went with the bow. We back up to several large farms though and see animals often.
Anyway, he was still there and still acting very oddly so I shot him through the vitals. He started to roll around and growl. I waited util he got stil and put one in his head.
So now I have this dead racoon. I could throw him in a plastic bag, but the trash won't be here for a week. I guess I could haul him to a dumpster? Or, I could also just throw him out in the field for the coyotes and crows. I'm not sure if I should do that since he seemed sick.
Should I throw out my arrows I shot him with since he might have been carrying a disease?
Thanks,
Charlie
Call the DNR or County Health Dept(maybe Sheriff). If it is rabid they will want the body to test. Let them tell you what to do with the arrows. pat
Nope wash off the arrows with some warm water and maybe a hint of bleach, handle them with a little care is all. The coon I would throw him out to the wilds. He would of died out there fairly soon anyway if he had rabies or distemper. Shawn
distemper
I'm with Pat. DNR always want to keep track of these type of things.
Merry Christmas everyone.
If there is any chance that he tangled with your dog test the raccoon! If he tests negative you're ok. If he tests positive that is bad news. Check with a local Vet. Be sure to keep rabies vacs. current!
He might of just been drinking a little to much!!! :help: it is Christmass
raccoons are susceptible to both canine and feline distemper. It is quite common in the midwest, especially in areas of high coon densities. In the final stages of the illness, raccoons wander about aimlessly, occasionally going into fits of convulsions and in and out of consiousness. Many almost appear to be tame and have no fear, often appear to be in a drunken stupor.
I ran a nuisance wildlife control business for a number of years. There's always a spike in these cases with the onset of cold weather. Get many calls from people thinking they have found someones "pet" raccoon....some have even picked them up, carried them around :scared:
Bury it if possible, or take it far away from your pets. Your pets distemper shots should be kept up to date since ya know its in the area.
We had a raccoon stumbling around our neighborhood like that. It died soon thereafter. We called the health department and they picked it up and tested it. Never found out what the tests showed.
Allan
Rubber gloves...double trash bag.....bleach the arrows......(if contacted)watch the dog.....call animal control....keep the coon in acool place away from other animals.
Sounds like distemper but i wouldnt take a chance on rabies.Just my two cents worth , i ran into three different situations like tht last year.
A fox , a bobcat , and a coon all within 1/2 mile radius. Wildlife officers suggested the above instructions, i never heard back from them with the results.
Tim
Just a note, if you suspect rabies avoid shooting the animal in the head. They will need the entire brain to test. At least that's what animal control told me.
be brave! cook it for Christmas dinner!
Pinenut,
The dog wanted to play with the racoon, but they never made contact. Plus his shots are all current so I hope I'm good there. This is the second racoon I've come across in the last 9 months within about a mile and a half of each other that acted this way. I'm going to give ODNR a call to let them know.
I used gloves and I've bleached everything, but lost a brodhead in his skull. I'm okay on that one if it keeps my animals safe. I also bleached the spots in the yard where he bled.
We will have to see what ODNR has to say.
Thanks fellas,
Charlie
Heck of a way to get your first trad kill, but it had to be done.
I shot one a couple years ago in the yard that was acting funny. When I flipped him over I discovered his entire nose, upper and lower "lips" were gone. There was just one giant hole where his nose used to be rather than the normal double nasal cavities. Because the lips were gone it exposed his fangs/teeth. Ugliest thing you ever saw. The face would give anybody nightmares. I put rubber gloves on and took it into the local vets office. Together I think we figured it out. We think the coon got his nose stuck in a foot-hold trap with the jaws locked behind his teeth so he couldn't get free. Then some small evil critter (mink/weasel?) ate his nose and lips off until he broke free. Frankly, the wounds were very clean looking with no apparent infection. I think he might have made it but definitely wouldn't win any beauty contests. I burned my arrow just in case. bw
i would put it in a bag in a cool place (don't freeze it) and call your local health dept...rule outs are rabies, distemper, antifreeze poisoning or some random other disease...of course rabies is zoonotic and can kill people and pets and is the worse case scenario...they will do the rabies test on a part of the brain and the test is inconclusive a lot of times if it is frozen...good luck and wash everything that came in contact with it in a very soapy solution as previously stated...
heartshot ( and dvm when i'm not bowhunting)
I am with pine nut (maybe cuz I am unsure if he is a vet or not...) but since the highest density of rabies carriers are racoons, I'd be safe anyways...
The rabies virus cannot survive in cold weather. That is why you only see cases in the summer. I would guess distemper. IMHO
Be careful that the DNR doesn't charge you if you shot the ctitter out of season or without the proper tags. Might've been best to call them before the shot to get permission? I think I would've done the same thing as you but with time to think a call might save some possible hassles.
Thanks Owl,
I checked the regs at ODNR's website and coon is legal. I called ODNR this morning. I have my hunting permit so hopefully I'm good. I couldn't let that thing wander around too much since I and all my neighbors have cat and dogs.
-Charlie
I shot a coon one night about a year ago. it was on our porch and was aggressive. When I got my bow and turned on the porch light to shoot it he headed for our chickens. I growled at him and he came back to "face me down". A Phantom broadhead ended the standoff. I left him there with the arrow in him and called the amimal control person the next day. He had the coon tested and it came back positive for rabies. He told me to shoot every coon I could since there was a spike in rabies in all kinds of critters. I had to handle the arrow caeefully and cleaned it up with soap, water and bleach.
A funny story - When we were first married, about 25 years ago, we had a 'coon hanging around our bird feeder just like you describe. I wanted to shoot it, but my young wife insisted we would 'get in trouble". Being the new people in the subdivision, I agreed and called the Sherrif. A deputy showed up, and promptly blasted it with his .357 magnum. I said to him, "geeze, I could have done that with a .22...."
He kind of glared at me and growled "then why didn't you?"
I never felt like more of a city slicker than that moment. ;0)
Charlie – Yeah, but kill it during the night...8^) the ODNR regulations sez it can only kilt legally between the hours of 6PM and 6AM or something like that...8^) (seriously)
A couple or so years ago, had a very similar incident one early winter/late fall in an apartment complex. Distemper was the diagnosis.
what about trapped coon? Ya gotta run em before 6??
I am a vet. We are having a rabies outbreak in our area. Distemper is a possibility as well as is rabies. Both diseases are encephalitic in nature. They can both cause central nervous system dieease. Distemper is not a problem for your dog if he's vaccinated against it. If your vaccinated animal has contact with a known rabid animal he would need to be watched under quarantine for 30 or forty days and be revaccinated. Rabies is a 100% fatal disease. when you have symptoms you're going to die! Always take this disease seriously. The life you save might be your own or someone you love.
Two weeks ago it was my unhappy lot to have to put down a dog that fought with a raccoon at 4:00 PM. The young nam was in the woods with his dog and did not bring out the raccoon carcass. The dog was six years old an had never been vaccinated. He was a nice dog but a six months quarantine with a high probability of developing rabies made euthanasia the only option for him. I was more than a littlle mad at these folks but sorry for them too. Most of all for the dog. Get your pets their rabies shots folks and always be alert.
I have a friend of many years who was attacked by a raccoon about halfway to her house from her car in the driveway. She has bad arthritis and cannot move very quickly. She managed to get back into her car but it got her shoe off and started chewing on her foot. She beat it off with her purse and called 911. It was positive too. She is ok but could have died from only a minor bite.
I have also been told by epidemiologists that a raccoon may transmit rabies for six months before they are symptomatic. If a dog can transmit it he will die within 5 days. The law says to quarantine for ten days if he is alive at the end of ten days the person is ok from that bite. Doesn't say from a later bite though.
Check for baby racoons in the dog house. If it was a female that is. If it was a male, who knows???
raccoons have their young in april
its not too bad. I have trapped 2 rabid coons this year. Called the DNR and they said "what do ya want us to do about it." they figured that is why we were trapping/hunting them to keep the populations down. I skinned them out anyway (always wearing gloves) and cleaned the whole area with bleach. Im still here and i aint foaming yet.
Call your vet asap. there is another disease which raccoons carry that can be transfered to dogs. I cant remember what it is, but you better call.
Call the vet, the DNR, wash the arrows with bleach but there's nothing you can do about the bow. Send it to me for safe disposal.
:)
I had a case like that - the coon had holed up in my Bilco door - and called the NY DEC.
They had no interest, & told me to call a nuisance critter removal service.
What? I wasn't gonna spend the $75 bucks, so I took care of it and buried the remains.
burn the coon & every thing of yours that came in contact with it. the organizations mentioned don't want to spend money for tests & don't care anyway.
Like the vet said - rabies is 100% fatal. If you guys understood how easily it is transmitted; you would not be doing the things you are.
I worked with infectious diseases for 3 1/2 years for the University of Michigan.
No offense but listen to the vet - and do not take the chances I have seen listed here. Please!
I work in a public health lab that tests for rabies. There is no reason to submit an animal for testing unless there is a human exposure or a domestic animal was bitten. Bury the animal and disinfect with bleach any items that came in contact with the animal.