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Title: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: toot on December 21, 2008, 08:27:00 AM
On the serious side..

Why does a person shoot a longbow??

Is it nostalgia?  (traditional)

The reason I shoot the recurve I have, is simply cosmetics.. It's the coolest looking recurve I've seen..   ((TO ME))!!!!!

Or is it just differences in what looks better..

((One person likes stainless steel appliances.. Another likes dark colored appliances.))

I've never shot a longbow, and as you can probably tell. I "just" started shooting a recurve..

My guess is that it's a traditional "choice."

""PLEASE-PLEASE""  Do not make this a ..

One is better than the other, pissin' match

((It doesn't seem like that happens here as much as other places, anyhow))

I'm just ignorant on the "why" of the choice..

Now, I will know.........

Just so you know. I tried a search, and could not word my keywords for a proper search..

Thanks, Toot
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: TradOnly on December 21, 2008, 08:35:00 AM
I have both, but I shoot my longbow a lot more.  It's mostly because I'm better with the longbow.  It's more forgiving, quieter and the smaller shelf yields a quicker recovery and smoother arrow flight.  The poundage at my draw (30") comes out to about the same.  I could prabably get better with the recurve with more practice and I'm dedicated to taking big game with both next season.  For now, I'll just scare the rabbits and squirrels.
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: horatio1226 on December 21, 2008, 08:46:00 AM
Longbow just feels better to me. Recurves have nice lines that I love, but I just like longbows better.
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: bmfer on December 21, 2008, 08:55:00 AM
For me, if I think traditional archery, my brain sees a longbow. I think its the short riser and long limbs that makes them pretty to my eye. Unfortunatly, I am much more accurate with my recurves, so for now thats what I hunt with. The real funny thing is, during bow season, I took 2 shots, killed a doe with my longbow, and missed a slam dunk on another doe with my recurve! Maybe you can figure it out.....
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: Van/TX on December 21, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
We would first have to define "longbow"   :knothead:    :biglaugh:  ...Van
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: Jeff U on December 21, 2008, 09:14:00 AM
I think there are three main issues:  Looks, accuracy, and noise.

Looks:
It's a lot about looks.  You will be happier with, and it makes sense, to shoot the look you like.

Accuracy:
Many will find they shoot a recurve better.  Why, much seems to be related to the heavier riser found on most recurves.  The heavier riser helps stabilize the bow arm making for a more accurate shot.

Noise:
The longbow string does not slap the limb after release so the longbow tends to be quieter.

minor issues:
Longbows can take more abuse.  It's much more difficult to twist a limb.


Some of the fastest, best performing bows are hybrids longbows.  Some will call them longbows while the longbow purists will see them more of a recurve in drag.  (The best of both worlds?)
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: wingnut on December 21, 2008, 09:20:00 AM
It's an eye thing.  One bow will fit your eye and it will be the one.  Performance can be achieved with either so that's not a factor.  And the hybred bows have nearly bridged the gap.

I like the feel of the recurve on the draw when the mechanical advantage of the curve goes into effect.

I like the look and shootablity of a longbow.  They fit my eye.

Mike

BTW Van - a longbow by definition (mine) the string terminates on the nock and does not touch the limb.
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: imskippy on December 21, 2008, 09:33:00 AM
I have only shot recurve until a few months ago. I took a chance and got a "hybrid" longbow from a friend who builds bows. I love both bows equally. I try to shoot one as much as the other and find I shoot them both fairly well. Although I believe the longbow feels naturally more comfortable in my hand, it's lighter and quieter too. I plan to hunt with both depending on the area and terrain as the longbow I feel is harder to maneuver in tight quarters. Thats my .02 Skippy
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: Gordy on December 21, 2008, 09:39:00 AM
What Van Said !   ;)

Also, if you find the recurve enjoyable to shoot and a challenge now .... then maybe someday you will find the longbow enjoyable to shoot ..... and if you're anything like me, you'll find it to be a HUGE challenge.   :scared:  

There's something of great difference in hitting the target with a self-built wooden arrow and a longbow VS a recurve and composite shaft.

Of course in between those two scenarios is a plethora of options so why bother trying to sort it all out in neat little compartments.
Shoot both !
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: drewsbow on December 21, 2008, 09:41:00 AM
For me its the lower mass weight. I shoot both well but the extra weight from a curve out on the end of my arm hurts my shoulder after the shot. Drew
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: toot on December 21, 2008, 09:43:00 AM
Very well done people..

Thank you, Toot
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: JCJ on December 21, 2008, 09:46:00 AM
I like both styles but really prefer the inherent quietness of longbows. I also like the lightness. On the other hand, when shooting on the range in a non-hunting setting I on average shoot a little more consistently with a recurve.
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: Killdeer on December 21, 2008, 09:52:00 AM
Toot, here is a link to my inital query on Google, longbow versus recurve.

  Search results~ Google (http://www.google.com/search?q=longbow+versus+recurve&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)  

You can throw this screen up and be entertained while untangling fletch tape. (I still chuckle over your tale! You have a way with words as well, friend.   ;)   )

Killdeer
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: jm62 on December 21, 2008, 09:57:00 AM
For me the principal advantage of recurve it's his better efficiency and stability.Nevertheless,i find the longbow more instinctive
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: John3 on December 21, 2008, 10:05:00 AM
I do love both types of bows. Recurve's are just curvy and "shaped" correctly.. You know kind of like a woman... Is that sexist??? Maybe, if so sign me up... LOL

Longbows are simple, beautiful, quiet, lightweight, and deadly.  With practice you can shoot either bow very well. It is all subjective.

John III
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: 30coupe on December 21, 2008, 10:16:00 AM
I like the light weight of the longbow. I like the R/D (hybrid if you will) because it eliminates the hand shock and smokes an arrow. It feels good in my hand. It is much quieter. I think I shoot longbows better. If I want more mass, I just hang a bow quiver on the side.

I practice more without the quiver because I think it makes me concentrate more on my form. I grew up on recurves, but gradually I am moving more and more to longbows. I haven't found a bow I like as well as the Kanati by Jason Kendall. Much to my wife's chagrine though, I keep trying.

Two recurves I'll probably always have around are my Black Bear and the one I built 40+ years ago when I was in high school. Neither would win any beauty contests, but they both shoot pretty well. The Bear is my fishing bow now.

They are all good! I like the longbow better, but I won't say I'd never buy another recurve.

My wife doesn't visit Tradgang.   ;)
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: Izzy on December 21, 2008, 10:17:00 AM
I like em both equally.
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: bentpole on December 21, 2008, 10:20:00 AM
All good stuff right here.I have shot and owned all three types of bows over the years. Just something about a Longbow for me. Light weight, forgiving, quiet, good speed [newer ones,with their design  are actually faster than some hybrids and recurves] and fun to carry.  Some folks just can't shoot a Longbow because of the lower brace heights and grip. Longbows do it for me.
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: Van/TX on December 21, 2008, 07:04:00 PM
QuoteBTW Van - a longbow by definition (mine) the string terminates on the nock and does not touch the limb.  
You can put that type of limb on a 3 pound machined aluminum riser, but is it a "longbow"?     :wavey:     ...Van
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: JAG on December 21, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
I just like building and shooting "Selfbows"!
Spirit / Character Bows are the most fun!
JAG/Johnny
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: myshootinstinks on December 21, 2008, 07:47:00 PM
I believe Van has a good point.  Many modern LBs have somewhat large, hand-filling recurve type risers, particularly some of the three piece models. In my mind I think of these as "hybrids" and the more conventional looking one or two piece LBs,reflex-deflex or not, as LBs.
     I enjoy both LBs & 'curves. Nostalgia? Going back to my youth in the '60s, everybody shot a recurve. To me a late '50s-mid'60s style recurve comes to mind when I think of "traditional".
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: Pruneemac on December 22, 2008, 02:19:00 AM
I recently got a V-Archery reflex bow. I love it! I cant wait to go bear hunting in Canada next spring! in the meantime I shoot all my bow some every day.
Title: Re: Recurve/Longbow Difference (seriously)
Post by: Pat B. on December 22, 2008, 10:23:00 AM
I like the aluminum risered ACS CX by A&H.. It has just the right amount of mass weight for me and the graceful limbs just smoke an arrow.
I've shot recurves for 35+ years but in the last 2 or 3 years have been taken with this style of bow. I'm sure it doesn't fit Vans idea of a longbow and a HH it isn't. But it is a wonderful hunting bow that offers me the best of both worlds!