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Title: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Big Shot on December 13, 2008, 07:44:00 PM
New here, and this will be my first trad bow....... Had been shooting compound at 27"/53#

Both bows will run about $100

Herter's International Match Hunter (from ****, price is with shipping)
32@28 ---  from the pictures bow looks to be in near perfect shape, not sure about the year, it's not listed (anyone know how to tell be the serial number??)
(http://i17.****img.com/05/i/001/22/34/de0b_1.JPG) (http://i2.****img.com/07/i/001/22/35/04c3_1.JPG)

Tim Meigs (local, so no shipping)
37#28 ---  Tips are in great shape, no noticeable twisting in the limbs, some minor dings in the riser and glass, no stress cracks, again not sure about exact age and couldn't see the serial number in the pictures
(http://***********.bowsite.com/classifieds2/pics/00small55686699.JPG)
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Big Shot on December 13, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
Strange.....  does the sight not allow links to pictures from e-bay??  The pics of the Herters didn't come out.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Big Shot on December 13, 2008, 07:54:00 PM
hmmm, ok, lets try this....

   (http://www.image4u.org/host/public/1393/04c3_1.JPG?no_history)    (http://www.image4u.org/host/public/thumb_49445914e16d7506200937.jpg)

There, the one pic is small, but you can see the limbs are straight
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Killdeer on December 13, 2008, 08:08:00 PM
It was made in 1977.
Trad Gang has a policy about links to &^$% (I spelled it different) so they can't be displayed here.

Just curious, why are you going for bows in the thirties? I hasten to add that most compound shooters get a bow that is the same weight as their compound was, and learn rather quickly that 50 pounds of trad is harder to do than 50 pounds of compound. It is refreshing to see someone with the sense to step it down a notch when making the switch.

The Herters bows are excellent, but I have never shot a bow made by Tim Meigs.

Killdeer   :campfire:
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: vermonster13 on December 13, 2008, 08:15:00 PM
Meigs makes a good bow and it always good to be able to see it in person before laying out cash. Herters are solid bows but on the auction site you roll the dice when buying.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: sswv on December 13, 2008, 08:34:00 PM
what vermonster13 said!
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Steelhead on December 13, 2008, 08:51:00 PM
Tim miegs is known for building excellant bows and has been a bowyer for a very very long time.I would expect it to shoot very well.At 66 inches it should be very easy shooting and also has good mass to the riser.That should help as well.I would put a feather rest on it or or Bear weatherest if you buy it.Its a nice looking bow and pretty rare.The price is very good IMO.A 10 or 12 strand B-50 string would work well on it.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: portugeejn on December 13, 2008, 09:18:00 PM
Having purchased good bows and a bad bow on ****, I'd go with the Tim Miegs bow that you can see (plus no concern if it will get damaged in shipping)

RonP
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Big Shot on December 14, 2008, 09:56:00 AM
Thanks for the advice guys, I am thinking that the Meigs is probably the best too, specially since I can get to see it in person before buying.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Big Shot on December 14, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
Another question about these two....  how well would a feather rest work on them?

   (http://www.threeriversarchery.com/images/medium/3577.jpg)

Edit to add:  HAH!!!!, just noticed the comment above saying to go with one.......   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: George D. Stout on December 14, 2008, 10:23:00 AM
What you have against the side of the rest is more important than what the arrow rides on.  The feather rest is okay, but I would put a pressure point like a piece of leather under a leather side plate to limit side contact.  Either bow is a good choice and I agree with the light weight...a solid, sensible choice to learn to shoot with good form.

By the way, I've only ever received one bow that wasn't what I expected on the big auction.  Caveat Emptor on any purchase unseen, but at least you have a feedback forum to go by and many sellers who have been there for quite a long time.  I am very happy with the big E, but I only buy with good feedback and only with Paypal.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Big Shot on December 14, 2008, 10:28:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by George D. Stout:
but I would put a pressure point like a piece of leather under a leather side plate to limit side contact.
In other words to act like a Berger button of sorts??

QuoteOriginally posted by George D. Stout:
but I only buy with good feedback and only with Paypal.
Couldn't agree with that statement more, always cautious on there
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Billy on December 14, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
Not a button effect.
What George suggested would be like a paper match under a piece of leather. The match causes a vertical 'bump'.
The 'bump' would then, being the high point; cause the arrow to contact a smaller portion of the riser and even the shelf; if you did it there as well.
Hope that makes sense....
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Big Shot on December 14, 2008, 11:00:00 AM
Made perfect sense, thanks
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: 30coupe on December 14, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
Herter's are good bows. I bought a Model Perfection in 1974, and my oldest son still shoots it. I don't know about the Meigs, but I have heard good things about the bowyer. Like others here, I have bought bows on the auction and had good results. I would be surprised if the Herter's goes for less than $100 though. They tend to be in the $150+ range if they are in as good of shape as this one.

Also, a bow in the hand...

Will the owner let you shoot it? That would tell you a lot more.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Big Shot on December 14, 2008, 11:44:00 AM
Yeah, in fact I am meeting him at a local range tomorrow check out the Meigs one.  He said that way I could send a few down range to decide.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: Steelhead on December 14, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
A feahter rest would work excellant on either bow.Do to the flat shelf.I use one on a 1959 kodiak and get excellant arrow flight.Thatcombined with the suggestion of a raised pressure point on the strikeplate and you will be good to go.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: 30coupe on December 14, 2008, 03:40:00 PM
Actually, the Meigs looks like it has a Pararest on it now. That should work pretty well just the way it is. If you want to get it closer to your hand, then I'd do the raised pressure point under a piece of leather on the shelf or the feather rest. The leather will last longer.

I used a pararest for years with no problems. I just made sure it was mounted as low as possible. Give it a good try just the way it is before you decide. Let us know how it shoots!
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: atomic archer on December 14, 2008, 03:52:00 PM
We may end up getting both (I'm Big Shot's wife).  We're thinking about the Herters for me....but have a few other possibilities as well.  

Thanks for all the advice!
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on December 14, 2008, 04:16:00 PM
That's what I would do, get them both  :)  I had a hard time trying to pick just one, eany, meany , miney , moe   :help:
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: osiristheclown on December 14, 2008, 07:50:00 PM
I would check out the one that is local to you and avoid buying from the auction site. Have you checked the classifieds here? I'm pretty new here too, but I can tell you buying from other members has been a pleasure and I am more than satisfied with my purchases. The people on the auction site are in it for money, tradgang members are in it for the sport. Better to buy from an enthusiast in my opinion.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: acolobowhunter on December 15, 2008, 04:47:00 PM
I shot a Herters for 18 yrs.  A 65# Perfection Stika 66".  I still have it and shoot it a couple times a year, just for "Old Times".  I shot a lot of animials with it.  It is pretty slow by today's bow though.  
A work of advise - don't buy a bow you plan to use from looking at photos.  You really need to string the bow to find out if the limbs are straight.  After all these years since I bought my Herters ( 35 yrs ago) they are just starting to get a little twist in the limbs.  They were good bows and it took a tree to make one.  They really had big risers.  I shot it off an elevated rest because the shelf was so flat.  Even today I shoot off an elevated rest.  Seem to get better arrow flight.
Title: Re: Which one would you choose......?
Post by: mike g on December 15, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
I no Mr Meigs , Saw him at the last Gene Foster shoot in Nov....
   He has been making bows since the last Ice Age....
   He used to make bows for Howard Hill Archery also....
   Shoot his bow and then make a decision....I think you will like it....