Just curious as its not a make Ive heard much of, and seems to be one of the most expensive bows out there. How do they compare to other makes?
Of course pictures are always welcome :D
I havent shot the Vyperkahn.....But I did have the pleasure of shooting my friends Deathadder and I fell in love with it!!!!!!!!!!!! They for some reason are not taking orders on them, so it might be worth your while to call habu and see what models they are making.
My buddy Chimaster has one. He has gone thru a LOT of bows and I am pretty sure this will be the last one he ever buys. I can't shoot it because it is a lefty, but I do know it is fast and I have never seen him miss a thing with it.
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I've been shooting Habus since 99.He's only making the Vyperkahn.I just received Chris's latest Triple carbon longbow Vyperkahn.For the 2 weeks I;ve owned it I can honestly say it is the finest bow I've owned to date.I've had Blcktails,Silvertips,Dyes,Zippers,Wes Wallace,Widows,Cascades,Pronghorns,Robertsons,Wapiti,and some I can't remember and have shot many others.Not saying there is anything bad about the others.Just the Habu fits my shooting style and the workmanship is second to none.
Also,I was on Chris's very long waiting list so if you are thinking of one you better have a bow to shoot till yours is finished.
They certainly got the cool factor. SteveO thats a great buck!
Overbo, whats the difference between the double carbon and triple carbon?
I wonder how they compare speed wise to ACS's and Morrion foam cores etc?
I think I gotta get a bow fund going...too many and too little time!
Chris told me that w/ the triple carbon he is gaining about 10fps over his double.As for speed,Chris thought 190fps w/ 9gpp should be obtainable w/ my 60lbs @ 27'' draw.Don't know about the Morrison or ACS.
Chris dosen't use any glass in his limbs,makes them lighter but still uses wood veneers over the carbon.Very innavative design.
Is there a web page ?
thanks
Just found it, thanks..
Thanks for the info overbo, thats plenty fast and seems up there with the ACS etc.
I've got one. A 62" Bocote with Hycurve limbs(had a 60" Cocobola until recently but the fellow I got it from really missed it lol). The speed is decent, very stable, with a little work they can be fairly quiet. Real good mass weight and grip. Finish work on the riser I would rate a B though guys keep saying it is outstanding the ones I've had weren't. The woods he chooses are gorgeous, some of the best I've seen. A very good bow, now a $1750 bow, well only the buyer can decide if they're worth that to them.
Overbow, is $1750 the price for one of the triple carbon bows?
YIKES!! :scared: Price Is WAY Out of My Little Pittance!! :readit: Good Luck with Your Search!! :thumbsup: :archer:
I've owned a Habu Take-Down, Death Adder and 3 VyperKahns. I currently have a Double Carbon model. It's a great shooter. I just got a new Morrision Cheyenne and I also own a Blacktail Elite VL takedown.
I don't know that I'd say the Habu is that much better than the others to justify the cost. Don't get me wrong, I love Habu bows. I wish I had the Take Down back, but the cost just keeps going up for 10 FPS.
Maybe I'm wrong, but couldn't you gain that by dropping 50 grains or so of arrow weight?
WOW!! That's a LOT of coin for a bow. Heck that's a lof of coin for anything except a vehicle.
Nala
I had a VyperKahn a couple of years back. A nice bow but I didn't think the finish work was as good as that on my top of the line Fedora.
$1750 is for his exhibition woods I-KAHN series.I'm sorry but I haven't seen any problems w/ Chris's finish.Can you guys be more specific?
Well since he only sells the Ikahns right now until he gets the stock bows up and running for $1300 each, you're looking at some coin either way. I have a riser with glue line issues that had to be repaired and his bows scratch real easy in my experience thus far. I also have a Habu Take-down that has a dime size white spot in the finish since he made it and speckles of various sizes.
Guess I've been lucky w/ Chris's bows.Verm,I beleive I owned that 62'' VK you have.That bow is ebony.I got the sister limbs for it that are bacote w/ ebony fadeouts.
Wow, $1,750, $30 for a single broadhead, etc...
I'm pretty sure I can still kill a deer with equipment that's more moderately priced..
But if you have the money I'm sure they're nice!
If that is the Ebony one that was on the classifieds here, let me know when you are tired of it...I was not quick enough on the trigger!
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Hey Guys,
I've shot Chris's bows since the early 90's when I hunted with Rodger Rothhaar in Canada. I have owned many of his bows and each new model was always better then the last. I have never had any problems with the finish as Chris developed the paint from his work with aircraft paints. I can say that the vyperkahn is the finest bow I've ever had. I have the double carbon and its very fast. It doesn't suprize that
chris has come up with something new in the triple carbon. He is always looking to improve. The bow is worth every penny. It just about shoots it's self. I'll be shooting this one until I'am dribbling my oatmeal.
Bill are you shooting the hycurve limbs or the longbow limbs? By the way that is a nice whitetail in your pic. Did you get him in Michigan?
Jon--he got that buck with me in Iowa. He's got the hybrid limbs, which is a story in itself. And I am answering because unless I tell him to get in here and answer something; he'll never see your question!!!
By the photo and the limbs being carbon one-eye's limbs must be the longbow.I've finally got this triple longbow well tuned and man this thing is extremely quiet.Shooting a 515gr arrow from a 60lbs bow.
Seve-O,that's my old bow.Chris killed a 190+'' muley and a 380'' bull w/ that bow.I called it MOJO.I shot a few squirrels w/ it.Just to lihgt of draw weight for my liking.
I double checked with Gary...he has the Longbow limbs for sure.
QuoteOriginally posted by one-eye-bill:
Hey Guys,
I'll be shooting this one until I'am dribbling my oatmeal.
Had to LOL!
I have heard a lot of good comments about the Habu bows and that they are very fast and good shooters but I have never seen any info regarding how they compare in head to head competition with top performing bows (with regards to arrow speed) such as Morrison and ACS bows. Has anyone actually compared the bows using a shooting machine and same weight arrows from each bow???
Hey Guys,
I've never shot my habu through a machine. I know its fast and it puts them where I'am looking. So I'am not so concerned about the speed. To me it out performs all the other bows I've had, and I've had all the best at one time or another. They'll have to pry my Vyperkahn from my cold dead fingers!!!
And there we have it...a new record for the Chimaster...two posts in one week! I think he may be hooked now :eek:
AMEN
well, my all glass vyperkahn shot right at 188fps with 9gpp and a custom 10 strand 8125 string. chris said the double carbon was 10fps faster than the glass model and now if the triple carbon is faster by 10 fps, it would be in the ballpark at 9gpp at 28" draw that an adcock is at 9gpp and 30" draw. we all know that's not happening, but, the easiest way to gain speed on a habu is to cut off and reserve the string. the most effective way is to replace the stock string/cable and perhaps variations in strings is what is gaining. the above claims would make it the fastest bow in the world by a long long way.
From what I understood,his all glass longbow was a bit slower than his hycurve,and his double carbon was a equal or a tad faster than the hycurve.Then this triple carbon is 10fps faster than that.I have a hycurve and he told me my gain should be around 10fps not 20fps as the math above shows.
Even so that puts the Habu triple carbon firmly into ACS CX, Morrison foam core territory. Nice!
Does anyone know? Is Chris using regular carbon in these bows, or is he using the foam core stuff like Bob Morrison is using?
The foam core is a glass in the Morrisons. The carbon is on the back of the bow with the glass foam core and fiberglass belly.
We have a thread where people think $30 or more for a single broadhead is nothing, so $1750 for a bow doesn't seem out of line for those folks.
Now to the post, never owned one, but the people I know that have, really liked their Habu.
He told me he was buying a machine to grind his carbon lams.I ask him about the foam and he said he wasn't interested in gettin into that.
I had a Vyperkhan made for me a couple years back. By far the most beautiful bow that I have owned. Excellent craftsmanship.
Very smooth and a quick bow. I could not get it as quiet as I would've liked so I sold it.
The riser fit my hand ver well, but I could not shoot it as well as other bows. That also played a role in me selling it.
Bows like these, those that have a very long waiting list, do not loose their value quickly so buying one would not be a bad investment. If you didn't like it someone would take it over waiting a year or more.
btw, i want the string comment to be taken for what it is. some bowyers redline their bows with a higher regard for performance than durability. others waaaaay overbuild. some find a happy medium. chris is in the middle and only adds performance when it has been extensively shown to be able to be durable as well. he wants his strings durable and they sure are, my point was not to disparage habu bows and their strings but to point out that you can gain major performance with a change. don't shoot one next to an adcock with the stock string and judge performance. you'd think the habu was a stinker performance-wise, have similiar strings and they're both in the same ballpark. i have no idea where the triple carbon falls into this.
Well, I am just amazed...
I traded Dave for that older Ebony VK Hycurve he had. I got myself a chronograph for Christmas and did a little testing.
The bow tunes with the same arrows as my 55# Silvertips. The VK is 50#. I draw 29.5" and use a clicker.
The Silvertip shoots a 517g arrow at 186fps, the Habu...185. The Silvertip shoots a 641g arrow 174fps, the Habu 171. That is simply amazing to me as an engineer. Virtually the same performance with 6# lighter draw weight.
This is just bamboo limbs, I can only imagine what the double and triple carbon can do.
The thing shoots great to boot! I can't say I am converted; but I am impressed. Am I impressed enough to spend $2000 for a new one? I don't know about that, but it is something that I can't keep from popping into my mind at least 3 times/hour!
Well Steve I have a cocobola one that's 55#s I may be letting go soon. lol
Welcome to the Habu Steve O
I find that inordinate!1750 dollars it's overrate
I think BMW's and Mercedes cars are over priced. That being said, I'd probably buy one if I had the spare money to burn.
You can find a too well custom bow for less expensive.There are a lot of brands that may prevail
I can buy a Hyundi cheaper then a Mercedes as well. Both get me to the store.
What's your point?
Steve
You can find too a Blacktail or a morrison at least as weel as see better for a price less excessive and even two !
Do you think that a Blacktail is on a level with a Hyundi ?
I have been shooting Habu's for at least a decade, I have tried most bows out there.
There are about a dz Bows at the top of the Heep, it comes down to each persons taste and feel.
One man's best bow could feel like a dog in another man's hand.
For me, I like the look and feel of a Habu, the "Magic Bow" don't exist.
However there is a Bow that feels like magic in your hands, and that's the bow you should shoot.
As far as a Hyundai and a Mercedes the only similarity is they both have 4 wheels.
With a Bow, your paying for the Bowyers time, knowledge and expert's, price is relevant, any one can make a bow out of a broom-handle, and it shoots like one also.
If no one buys them, the price will come down, however, I've been on his list for a new Ikon for over a year, some ones buying them.
Im with King. Price is irrelevant, if you want it and can afford it (or save for it) then thats all that matters. Besides his prices arnt over the top...I was quoted $1700 odd for a fancy Silvertip, and $1400 for an average spec Morrison.
I know Im saving for one, I think it'll be money well spent.
Originially I thought the prices were high too, but then I just realized I was mostly just whinning. I called Chris and got on the list for a new one. I have not spoken with Chris in at least a couple years but he still remembered me. He's a great guy.