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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Oscar-eleven on November 27, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
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I own several metal handled ILF hunting bows and really like them. I'd appreciate some opinions of Morrison ILF owners. How do you like your bows?
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I have both the 18" and 16" risers, both with Morrison foam/glass recurve limbs. They are great bows, very well made, very quiet, and very stable. I like them alot.
Mark
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not trying to hijack your thread, but was wondering if standard olympic recurve limbs, like the winex limbs, fit these as well? or do they have to be the morrison limbs?
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Any ILF limb will fit the risers. I had a set of Samick Extreme limbs for a while. Just preferred the Morrison limbs.
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I think they shoot pretty nice!!!!
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m208/boxxer06/P5210007.jpg)
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are they avalible in 18" right now? it says short and long risers coming soon, but i didnt see what lenghts are being made now. also, do you know his wait time?
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I got a 16 inch and a 20 inch. most natural feeling and pointing wooden riser I've shot. I don't shoot instnictive much. both the arrow in the target were shot at 16 yds with BH instnictively. It not that I can't shoot instnictively, I choose to aim. when I shoot instnictively it is with the Morrison risers. top riser has carbon/wood short ILF limbs 60# on my fingers (28"). bottom riser is has carbon/wood shorts 52# on my fingers
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rusty
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I've recently had a chance to shoot Bob's mini 14 ILF and all I can say is I will have one on order here soon :goldtooth:
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What do I think about them? They are the second best bow on the market, imho (with the Shawnee being first). Mine should be here shortly. :thumbsup:
Deflexed riser, tune-ability of ILF fittings, flexibility of Bob's foam/carbon longbow limbs or foam recurve limbs or ILF Olympic limbs all wrapped in a package with the exact grip you want in the exact woods you want....what's not to love?
Take Bob up on his try-before-you-buy program, and give one a whirl...only your checkbook will be sorry.
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I have owned a Morrison Mini 14 for a couple of months now along with a set of the foam/carbon Dakota "C" limbs that make it a 56" bow. It is the best shooting bow I own and is stack free at my draw length of 29 1/2". The sight window is surprisingly big for such a short riser and the riser is deflexed for greater stability. The WinEx limbs work great on the bow according to those who shoot them. I don't really know why anyone would choose one of the longer risers for hunting unless extra weight and length was considered to be an advantage. Bob Morrison shoots two of the Mini 14 ILF's and he can shoot any bow he makes.
Allan
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Just got a 16" ILF riser on a trade and put some Tradtech Carbonwood limbs that I'd picked up cheap on it . I can honestly say I've never shot better. The bow is fast, stable and surprisingly shootable for a short bow. I can only imagine what it would be like with the carbon/foam Morrison limbs. I'm no ILF expert by far but I'm loving this bow. I've shot some nice bows including the Shawnee and Cheyenne and I believe this is my pick. I'm already trying to think of a way to get a 14" riser and some Morrison limbs to match. I guess I've gotta put some of my other bows on the classifieds. Yes, they are that good.
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Thanks for the replies, I appreciate it.
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The only reason JC thinks the Shawnee is a better bow is that he hasn't received his Mini 14 ILF bow yet! He will change his mind once he has spent a month or less shooting the bows side by side. JC is a very good shot and shoots his Shawnee better than either Bob Morrison or I shoot our ILF's, but he will shoot his own ILF even better than his Shawnee. Don't let JC fool you - the reason he ordered the ILF is that he shot Bob's ILF when we were all hunting together and was VERY impressed with the ILF! I own both (and of course Bob does too), and the ILF is better - but not by very much. I think it may be the deflexed riser on the ILF that makes the difference. Do take Bob up on his "test drive" program if you are interested. Being able to try out a bow and return it if it doesn't work for you is a great opportunity. Bob doesn't get a lot of returns.
Allan
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I just got my 14" Solid Phenolic ILF riser yesterday, haven't got to play with it a good bit yet but I am already liking it......a lot!! As soon as I can save up enough money it will have a pair of Morrison Carbon/Foam 56" longbow limbs.....I cant wait!
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Lewis,
I saw the pictures of your Mini 14 riser on the other thread. It is fancier than mine with the extra laminations on the front of the riser. I hope you enjoy shooting the bow as much as I have mine. You will be thrilled with the Dakota limbs when you get them. That is the same combination as Bob Morrison and I shoot and is the same as what JC ordered. The limbs are expensive, but you definitely get what you pay for when you buy Morrison products. Bob makes great bows!
Allan
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If this bow is better than the shawnee w/Dakota limbs I would love to shoot one.
JC please let me know what you think after you shoot it awhile?
If you like it better than the shawnee please let me know.
Bob makes nothing but the best bows IMHO.
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I have a mini-14 Morrison ilf riser. I have the all phenolic riser and had it dipped in predator deception. I have been shooting some flute limbs, but have some Morrison foam/carbon longbow limbs on order. I think it sould be a sweat shooter. The limbs will have canebreak skins, so the bow will be canebreak and camo.
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Ken,
I have two Shawnees with Dakota foam/carbon limbs, and I love them, but I like the ILF even better. So does Bob Morrison. I hope JC will let us all know what he thinks after he has shot his ILF for awhile. He is a better shot than I am, so his opinion is probably worth more than mine.
Where are you in Oklahoma? I am in OKC.
Allan
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I think they are fabulous! Of course I have Allan (amar911) to blame....er, I mean credit for my bank account being lighter as I ordered an ILF like his with the mini-14 phenolic riser and "C" carbon foam core Dakota limbs making a 56" bow.
I have 4 Shawnees and prefer my ILF over the Shawnees. It's close, but I have to agree with Allan and JC in that the deflexed riser makes the bow very stable and smooth. I also ordered the WinEx recurve limbs and absolutely love them. Very smooth to draw and fast as well. Of all my bows (13 in total), my Morrison ILF is my favorite. Just makes sense, as this bow has the flexibility of being a recurve and longbow all in one.
Bob
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S'pose I could get one of you describe the attraction of the mini 14"?
I would love to try one and see, but he doesn't rent them and they are expensive.
I shot the 16 inch and it seemed like I would rather go with a longer riser than a shorter one.
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Doug,
The attraction for me is that it allows me to have a shorter overall bow for hunting. I have a 29" draw and shoot a 60" Shawnee and Cheyenne, but with the mini-14 riser I am able to shoot a 56" ILF with no stacking at all.
Bob
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He doesn't rent them, but he will let you test drive any in-stock riser or limbs he has.
I had both the ILF longbow limbs and the Shawnee with Dakota limbs. I prefer the Shawnee. Just shoot it better, and the riser seems to compliment the longbow limbs better. Perhaps a bit quieter as well. For me. But I'm not so good a shot, so take my opinion for what it's worth :D .
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Doug,
What BobG said, and also, with the ILF you get the stability of the deflexed riser (like with the Cheyenne), the ability to use Morrison longbow and recurve limbs as well as ILF limbs made by many other manufacturers, and the ability to tune the bow for weight and tiller. Lastly, if the limbs are not tightened all the way down, the limbs can be removed by hand in seconds, thus making transporting the bow extremely easy. The bow shoots a little better in my hands than my Shawnees and Cheyennes and I really like the fact that I can have a 56" bow using the Mini 14 riser that shoots as well as my 60 inch (or longer) Cheyennes and Shawnees. My draw length is 29 1/2", so even longer than BobG's. I don't recommend a longer draw for the 56" bow. Better to go to 58".
Bob Morrison says the longbow limbs are a little faster on the Shawnee, and some people prefer the straighter Shawnee riser, so MRD is very reasonable in saying that he prefers the Shawnee over the ILF. All the Morrisons are incredible, so you can't go wrong.
Allan
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Allan, have you put "Long" ILF's on your 14" riser yet? How long was the bow? I have longs on mine now and it uses the same string as my 56" longbow which is a 53" string so I figure its a 57" curve with the long limbs but I cant find my tape measure anywhere.
The reason I ask is because someone else said the Mediums should make a 57" bow with the Mini 14 riser.
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Lewis,
No, I haven't put my Morrison Dakota "F" longbow limbs on my Mini 14 riser yet, and probably won't get around to doing that for a week or two because of everything else I have going on right now. I will sure let you know what I think, but according to Bob Morrison, the "F" limbs will make the bow come out at about 62" AMO, which is about a 59" length when strung as I understand the AMO system. It sounds like you are also looking at the string length being around 3" shorter than the AMO length. Remember that other ILF limbs do not make the same length bow and are not even the same draw weight on the Morrison risers as they are on other ILF risers, so we may be talking apples and oranges. On the Morrisons I can discuss "A" through "F" length limbs and know what AMO length bow they will make with a given Morrison riser, but I can't compare other makes of limbs. Bob Morrison has a chart on his website that gives that information for his components. I have not measured the string on my Mini 14 with Dakota "C" limbs, but I would expect it to be 53".
Allan
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I am taking about normal ILF limbs. The Longs I have according to the limbs are 68" on a 23" riser so since the 14" riser is 9" shorter it should make a 59" bow but my 53" string fits it which should mean the bow is actually 57" but I cant find my tape to actually measure it.
I was just curious if you had ever put Long ILF recurve limbs on it to see what it measureed.
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Lewis,
It is difficult to compare the limbs you have with the Morrison limbs because Bob uses different angles on his limbs and limb pads due to the configuration of his deflexed riser. I know that the poundages of other limbs on the Morrison riser can be way off from what they are marked, which would indicate to me that the angles and therefore the overall length with a given set of limbs would also vary considerably. I only have Morrison limbs, so I don't know how they relate to other makes. BobG has WinEx recurve limbs on his Mini 14 and can give you the info on those limbs, and I am sure Bob Morrison and others have info on various makes of limbs and how they work on Morrison risers, but I have to plead total ignorance on that subject.
Can someone out there help Lewis with his questions?
Allan
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The weight was pretty close as to what was marked on my riser subtracting the length difference of course. I dont think the limb pad angle is off by too much from other ILF risers and I wouldnt think that it would make a huge difference in the length being different but then again I may be wrong.
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Mediums make a 56" bow on the 14" riser Lewis and they are true AMO so should take a 53" string.
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The Morrison risers have different pad angles so that the limbs(Morrison at least) will be the same draw weight on each riser length.
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Yeah but the ones I have are Longs and all of my 53" strings work perfectly on them, thats what is so confusing. And that is with the limbs bolted all the way in and then backed out half a turn then tuned to even tiller.
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Are you sure your limbs are longs?
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Yep 100% sure, I just found out that Mediums on a 14" riser makes a 54.5" bow so the longs would make a 56.5" so thats why my 53" string is working.
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My WinEx mediums (recurve) still make a 56" bow on my mini-14 riser and in fact, I'm using the same string as I do on my "C" Dakota limbs, which I'm fairly certain is a 53" string. As Allan said, maybe Bob Morrison can clarify further.
Bob