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Title: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on November 26, 2008, 05:55:00 PM
A little big for an arrow but I liked the way it turned out. It was 1/4" glass about the size of a credit card. Glass is a great learning resource.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/keyman/trail%20cam%20and%20hunting/CIMG1397-1.jpg)
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: Ray Hammond on November 26, 2008, 06:01:00 PM
nice work!
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Post by: sou-pawbowhunter on November 26, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
Beautiful
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Post by: tradtusker on November 26, 2008, 06:06:00 PM
very nice work
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Post by: 4runr on November 26, 2008, 06:07:00 PM
Beautiful is right!

Well done!
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on November 26, 2008, 06:08:00 PM
Beautiful! I had a buddy up in Michigan that was a knapper and his wife found this beautiful blue bottle at a yardsale. He commented on how much he'd like to knap some arrowheads out of it. She did buy it when he told her six months later that the cat had knocked it off the window sill. So he had to spend the next Spring and Summer combing yardsales for a replacement. She did let him knap the broken pices and he made 4 absolutely gorgeous Ishi type heads with them and killed his biggest but ever with one. I think you need to mount that on a spear shaft of figured maple for home defense.  :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: EASTERNARCHER on November 26, 2008, 06:11:00 PM
How does one Knap a head from ordinary glass? or is that a loaded question? Looks like something else I'd like to try as a winter project.
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Post by: non-typical on November 26, 2008, 06:17:00 PM
That is cool!
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: Teacher_of_the_Arcane on November 26, 2008, 06:21:00 PM
Mr. Razor....

Where did you learn your knapping??
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on November 26, 2008, 06:33:00 PM
I get scrap pieces and cut them down to workable size with a glass cutter. I then rough the edges on a grinder so I can pressure flake them with my ishi stick and smaller flakers. The Paleo planet website has a lot of info for beginners.
Here's a tiger striped obsidian point that I think I will try to hunt with.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/keyman/trail%20cam%20and%20hunting/CIMG1403-1.jpg)

This one I need to trim down a little to get the weight down. If it survives it too will go into my quiver.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/keyman/trail%20cam%20and%20hunting/CIMG1407-1.jpg)
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: Teacher_of_the_Arcane on November 26, 2008, 06:38:00 PM
Verryy cool stuff.  My buddy and I have been trying to get to a Knapp In for a couple of years, but always one or the other is tied up.  We may have to go Paleoplanet!!

Keep up the good work!!!
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on November 26, 2008, 06:38:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Teacher_of_the_Arcane:
Mr. Razor....

Where did you learn your knapping??
I did a lot of research on the net and a friend and I just started at it. When we got some good tools and some decent material we improved fairly quickly.

I've been at it for about three months. There is a ton of video on youtube that will explain a lot. My biggest break through was learning to drive my flakes farther by pushing the tip of my flaker into the the edge of the material pretty hard then peeling the flake off using inward pressure from my knees.

I use copper tipped tools but I've heard that antler is just as good.
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: EASTERNARCHER on November 26, 2008, 06:42:00 PM
That's amazing for only 3 months work!
I never thought that glass would flake like that!
I imagine skinned knuckles are a rite of passage?
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on November 26, 2008, 06:50:00 PM
Safety glasses and mechanics gloves are a must! The flakes are the sharpest things I've ever seen! Sharp as a scalpel at least. Many times I've had flakes bounce off my safety glasses.
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: Swamp Pygmy on November 26, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
razor where are you finding your glass?

Are you buying it and breaking it?
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Post by: twosheds on November 26, 2008, 07:58:00 PM
Great looking point.
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Post by: yellow bow on November 26, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: ishiwannabe on November 26, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
Great job on all of them, your lines a cleaning up nicely. Is that second point jasper? Either way, Im sure you will be hunting with stone next year. Ya got me beat and I have been playing with rocks for a little over a year.
Obsidian is the sharpest material known to man. It can have an edge the thickness of one molecule, thats why they use it for surgery.
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: Chris Surtees on November 26, 2008, 08:20:00 PM
Those are some sweet heads. Best of luck hunting with them.
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Post by: Gaff on November 26, 2008, 08:22:00 PM
thats some nice work Jim!! that first head ya got is about the size of those 1 7/8" german kenetic heads buff does all the killin with!!!!  :knothead:  

seriously though, great heads...  :clapper:
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on November 27, 2008, 02:31:00 AM
Thanks guys. The greyish head is Agate I believe. I get my glass from my wifes work. I can get 1/4" and 5/16" I'm going to try a knife blade with the 5/16" The 1/4" gets pretty thin when you get the flakes to meet in the middle.
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on November 27, 2008, 02:43:00 AM
http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/4009/t/help-with-slabbed-material.html  

Very informative link.
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: MYSTIKBOW on November 27, 2008, 10:42:00 AM
Checked out the videos on youtube. Very informative.

Jim, Thats the prettiest dang piece of striped obsidian I've ever seen! You did an EXCELLENT job of making a useable point out of it too. I've seen several people using antique Carrera glass lately.
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: bushytail on November 27, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
They`re pretty nice.I tryed napping with a little success.But i can`t get them as thin as you got them.You have talent for that.Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on November 29, 2008, 08:03:00 AM
Thank you all for the encouragement. I think the agate head is going to get a little more work. It's a little on the big side for hafting to an arrow.
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: bowhunterfrompast on November 29, 2008, 01:44:00 PM
Great knapping!
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Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on November 29, 2008, 03:42:00 PM
That tiger striped obsidian is BEAUTIFUL!
I wish I had someone close by  to teach me how to knap. I haven't gotten enough cuts on my fingers and hands as a chef. :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: Montyc on November 29, 2008, 07:06:00 PM
Razor,
Great work!  My brother hunted with stone points this year, no shots on deer, but man did they look cool! Something I might give a try?
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on December 02, 2008, 10:27:00 AM
Another.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/keyman/CIMG1414-1.jpg)
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: BobCo 1965 on December 02, 2008, 10:37:00 AM
Very nice!!!
Title: Re: New knapped piece
Post by: razorsharptokill on December 08, 2008, 09:24:00 PM
Same head. Going in the quiver!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/keyman/trail%20cam%20and%20hunting/CIMG1418-1.jpg)