Would you as a trad bowhunter shoot at big boned mature Iowa bucks with a 34# bow drawn only to 22 inches? Which equates to a 28# bow drawn to 28 inches?
This is not a trick question, and there will be no pics, nor am I going to proving anyone wrong.
I just want to know if trad bowhunters think in their heart of hearts if that set up is truly enough to go out and hunt big boned mature northern bucks.
Simple answer please, yes or no?
no
No
No
First question is it legal? But legal or not NO!
NO
No
Nope!
NO- emphatically no. Grant
NO!
no
no
Nope!!
mike
No
NO
No
nein!
NO!
NO!
no
NO!!!!!!
Ummmm, is the critter already dead before I shoot it with that bow? Can I use the bow to propel a 70,000 gr (that's about 10 pounds) spear straight down on top of him? :rolleyes:
If not, then another emphatic "NO".
(I don't give no simple answers :p )
NO
"No" to question one.
Confused on question 2. How can a bow drawn 6" farther pull lighter?
Yes!
Brad, do some push-ups....
I wouldn't shoot a bow that low, let alone hunt with it.
Yes! only if I was starving and was trying to survive.
Any other situation, NO
NO
is that one of the bows the indians shot or something? b/c if some youth was shooting a bow like that at a buck that good then they have one irresponsible parent/hunting guide. no i would never do that unless the arrow was tipped with a tranquilizer
John, I took it to mean that shooting a bow at that weight/length would shoot about the same as an arrow shot from the lighter/longer draw length bow...Mike
No.
I would take my rifle and enjoy the great outdoors on different terms.
absolutly not!!!!! :smileystooges:
Absoultely not, legal or not!
no
no.........it would be illegal here anyway.
I'm guessing were gonna see pics of someone thats done it successfully???
Simple answer...Yes
but only if it were my only option and my arms shrunk to that drawlength.
There's be way too much luck envolved with anything that light. NO!!
no
I would but only under 3 yards.
NO I would not but I'm sure Teery's going to prove us all wrong somehow. SKippy
Yes with a poison arra :readit: Hope it would be illegal, it is here.
NO
Nah, I would not. Stick to bunnies and birdies I would.
-Hillbilly
Yes.
If at very close range (less than 10 yards) and a really good arrow (sharp, Grizzly El Grande, EFOC, 650 gr+).
This is not a trick question, and there will be no pics, nor am I going to proving anyone wrong.
I just want to know if trad bowhunters think in their heart of hearts if that set up is truly enough to go out and hunt big boned mature northern bucks.
That being said my answer is no.
no
no
ChuckC
no
Big buck or skinny doe, I think not.
No way a rib would just about stop it. Let alone if you hit shoulder. To much respect for the animal.
No way.
No
No
NO!
nope
I think I know what you're getting at.
.no.
No
NOPE!
No but why limit the question to Iowa or northern deer?
NO
QuoteOriginally posted by Lost Arra:
No but why limit the question to Iowa or northern deer?
Probably because it applies directly to Iowa as Iowa does not have a minimum bow weight or broadhead width to hunt deer, and Iowa does produce some hefty deer.
This is a good example of non-archers determining regulations for bowhunting.
no
No - I would not.
Nope
Nope
nope
No
No. I would not.
But I wonder if a clean kill could ever be possible on deer sized game with such a light bow. I wouldn't try it because I don't think it could work out well, but it makes me curious to know if it could be done -- and under what circumstances, velocity, etc.
It isn't legal in Arkansas, so no... and our deer are maybe half as big as those in Iowa.. :eek:
No.
no
NO WAY!!!
Nyet!
Only if that bow could push a 650grn arra at 160fps or more, other wise NO!!!
Non
NO!
Life or death situation for myself or others- yep,
Otherwise- NOPE.
I don't think it is a legal set up anywhere. So NO
I have no problem with light draw weight bows and hunting but the state guideline minimums usually are 35# and THAT weight bow with a well tuned arrow and a sharp broadhead in the right spot will do the job better than most hunters would believe.
The shorter power stroke of the 22" draw on the bow will not be equal to a lighter weight bow at 28" of draw. If you look at the force curve of most bows their performance is not linear, so a shorter power stroke is more than just lower weight. It is less performance as well. I guess I can't make a short answer either. :bigsmyl:
Uh-uh. No way.
no i would not use a light poundage like that for big boned game :eek:
Texas no longer has a minimum bow weight...I dont like it but they didn't ask me.
Some wheelie bow guys here really like it for their kids...I say let them grow up. :campfire:
No
no
no
No! That being said, I suspect a lucky shot, defined as missing ALL bones, with a very sharp broadhead that gets both lungs would probably kill one of the IA deer. I'm not sure there would be complete penetration and the likelihood of recovery of the deer would be problematic at best.
Bottom line, NO! Have more respect for the animals!
Bill
Absolutely Not!!!!
I love to see kids hunting, I would like to see them have the oppertunity, Where do we draw the line in the sand, Here in AZ it's 40 lbs(Buffalo 50 lbs). I beleave a 28# set up would be lethal but not consistantly, and there would be too many variables to throw in. NO
I know of a situation, that has been on the internent recently, probably prompted this question...that said...no, not me either.
Nope.
No
No!
NO
No !!!!!!!!!!
Thought I might know what Terry was getting at but I was wrong. I don't know. I'm interested in knowing what his point is.
no
NO
This is a silly question, but I'm sure there is a point to it. For the record, NO.
BTW - Biggie, you kill me! :biglaugh:
NO!
No
ahhhhh...........nope
No....
NO...
No
No
David
No
Nah
NO
NOT ME !!!
NO!
No way Hozayyyyyyy !
Don't have those animals here, but I suppose they might be a bit bigger than a real big billy goat, and I wouldn't try that on such a billy.
NO!
No
No
No
But I bet it's been done few times.
If it was 10 yards or under with a heavy arrow and shaving sharp two blade and it didn't hit any bone, dead deer.
No.
No
Only if I was using a single bevel broadhead. They kill everything they come on contact with, deader than dead.
:p
What would you do Terry??
-Hillbilly
NO
no...but things change, there could be a day or a circumstance when I'd change my mind...I firmly believe I don't know everything about myself or the universe yet
An emphatic NO
No!
No
No
No sir
Nope!
no way
No
no
no
The nays have it!
NO
No
NEVER!
No
No sir.
KY doesn't have a weight limit anymore but I think the weight you asked about is not enough.
Rob
No....
no
NO
no
Can't say yes or no without explaining my position. Back in the 50's I saw lots of big bucks taken with bows in the 30-40# range...I mean really big bucks. Back then not many of us hunted or even considered tree stands which changes the dynamics of shooting any large animal. So, I say both yes and no. First of all it is probably illegal in most states to hunt with any bow under forty pounds...so that is a no. Can it be done...history and my own experience says, "yes" it can be done but I would not recommend it. My wife shot thru and killed a nice mature black bear with a 46# bow and a four blade bh. She was advised to use nothing less than 50# and a two blade head. It wasn't that long ago that many of us thought we had to shoot "manly" bows of over 60# to hunt any large animal. Most of the posts I see lately about successful hunts seem to indicate draw weights in the 40's to low 50's. Ten years ago those would have been considered too light. In the 50's the average bow weight for hunting was in the mid 40's and everyone was shooting four blade Razorheads.
no
Years ago Kansas used to have a 4o# minimum on bows but there isn't anything I have found as a minimum draw weight any more.
Even though it would be legal here I don't think I would.
Dennis
I wouldnt..................BUUUUTTTTTTT,
The ballistic calculator says:
34#, 24" shaft, 90fps, 800 grain arrow, pt blanck range= 14ftlbs. (.3192338lbs-sec momentum)
45#, 29" shaft, 120 fps, 450 grain arrow, 20 yds= 13ftlbs. (.2311870lbs-sec momentum)
I dont rely on these numbers for my self, I was just comparing a long shot from an average self/ low poundage bow, with a 5 yd shot from the bow described.
Just something to chew on.....again I wont take my kids till they pull 40 lbs.
You're killing us Terry.
I wouldn't...but I have no experience to back that up. My experience only says there's a LOT to it besides bow weight. (and that was all with compound)
Paulie
Bill,
.....never mind.
Bradd,
33#@27 inches-you in a wheelchair? My dad is 80 years old next week and shoots a heavier bow than that..at targets. He isn't even a hunter.
Uh uh...no way Jose...
NOT ME SAYS THE THE RABBIT
No
NO
Thanks for taking the time to post guys. Much appreciated.
E. Texas HillBilly, NO.
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Would you as a trad bowhunter shoot at big boned mature Iowa bucks with a 34# bow drawn only to 22 inches? Which equates to a 28# bow drawn to 28 inches?
This is not a trick question, and there will be no pics, nor am I going to proving anyone wrong.
I just want to know if trad bowhunters think in their heart of hearts if that set up is truly enough to go out and hunt big boned mature northern bucks.
Simple answer please, yes or no?
Terry edited his original post. What I'm wondering is what did you see or read that made you ask that question with such specifics?
Ray...feel free to finish your thought. My position is clearly ambivalent because experience and circumstances can vary greatly....and bow weight is only one factor. In fairness to the question, I would recommend that one should hunt with the heaviest weight that the hunter can shoot accurately with...and if they are sharpening challenged to shoot presharpened bhs....and all sorts of other things come into the equation.
NO!
I'll have a shooter with a IQ of 100, shooting a 28 pounder. Versus a shooter with a IQ of 28 shooting a 100 pounder.
Just my take after 34 years in a sporting goods store.
No offense meant to low IQ's :D nor anyone else JMHO :campfire:
Yes or no?
No.
All I did is add what I posted at the top of page 4 since some seemed to think it was a trick question, show pics, or that I was trying to prove someone wrong.
Here's what I added from the top of page 4.....
QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
This is not a trick question, and there will be no pics, nor am I going to proving anyone wrong.
I just want to know if trad bowhunters think in their heart of hearts if that set up is truly enough to go out and hunt big boned mature northern bucks.
I added it to the original posts so that anyone clicking on the original posts from then on would have those questions answered if they were wondering.
NOPE!
Brent made a relevant point though.
Eric
Absolutely not....all the desire in the world doesn't make up for inadequate equipment......unfortunate sometimes, but that's the reality of the situation.....
And BBassi....how could you say it's a silly question if you have no idea why he's asking? :knothead:
whoops, b.glass and i were thinking on the same line, thought for sure that was what was coming.
Thanks again for posting guys. I got my answer overwhelmingly.
Nice to see we draw the line somewhere. :thumbsup: