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Title: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: ag-pilot on November 21, 2008, 08:56:00 PM
I was curious to see how many whitetails you guys have with traditional equipment?
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: bbassi on November 21, 2008, 09:04:00 PM
enough.  :D
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Curtis Haden on November 21, 2008, 09:11:00 PM
Zero P&Y's.  Which is the same number bbassi gave. (for me -- saying nothing about him)    :readit:  

Seriously, if God decides to give me a chance at a 140+ class buck someday, I'll gladly take it.  Until then, I'll be grateful for whatever else I can get close to.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Clint B. on November 21, 2008, 09:18:00 PM
I've taken only one whitetail that scored higher than the P & Y minumum. Unfortunately, I took him with a shotgun slug during the firearms season. Missed the B & C minimum by a mile.  :o )
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: longstick on November 21, 2008, 09:47:00 PM
2...my avatar
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: JoeM on November 21, 2008, 09:51:00 PM
0+0=0   Yeah I think I have zero!   :jumper:
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on November 21, 2008, 10:07:00 PM
None for me, either.

Seriously, I haven't cracked an official trophy boar yet, either; but, you guys know the truth to the cliche, "They're all..."

Cheers,

Ben
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Dawn Patrol on November 21, 2008, 10:09:00 PM
I have three but I don't measure anymore,I just enjoy getting a shot.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Olebow on November 21, 2008, 10:22:00 PM
That really doesn't matter to me actually.  I love the hunt with a recurve bow in my hands.

Perhaps I do have a couple or so, but I have never had them measured.  

Please hunt for the love of the HUNT!
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: caleb7mm on November 21, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
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Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 21, 2008, 10:43:00 PM
none in the book, I can't see deducting inches if they don't match.P&Y and B&C stink because of that.. Just wrong
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: adeeden on November 21, 2008, 10:46:00 PM
1 officialy, but I no longer have mine scored.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Missouri Bowman on November 21, 2008, 10:53:00 PM
None......  Never cared to see if any measured up.  Any deer with a longbow or recurve is a trophy to me.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: koger on November 22, 2008, 12:03:00 AM
Two, a 142&7/8 taken at 24 yds and a 132 taken at 18 yds.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Whitetail Chaser on November 22, 2008, 12:15:00 AM
I have one in the book from 1997.

Still looking for my second one.....

Brett
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Onestringer on November 22, 2008, 01:51:00 AM
Zero
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: cajnhuntr on November 22, 2008, 06:44:00 AM
I am still trying to get my first forked horn with a bow.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: ag-pilot on November 22, 2008, 08:50:00 AM
When someone hunts with me for the first time I tell them up front I'm a DEER hunter. Anything with horns and especially big enough to score is a BIG bonus. I still haven't figured out how everyone can get deer to smile long enough for them to age them on the hoof. I'd like to see how much film footage the pro hunters would get in my areas I get to hunt. Not to say they couldn't, but I don't think there would near the  passing up of deer you see on T.V.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Justin Falon on November 22, 2008, 08:57:00 AM
7 in all.  Have really moved away from it though.  Getting back to basics and not focusing on horns anymore.  It's more fun that way.

jf
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Aeronut on November 22, 2008, 12:51:00 PM
You would think that I have a few since I live in Kansas, the 'monster bucks behind every tree' state.

I've seen two or three during my years of hunting but I've only devoted one season trying to shoot one certain buck.  That was a mistake on my part.

0-Zero for me.  The meat tastes way better than the antlers.

Dennis
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: bowless on November 22, 2008, 01:04:00 PM
None for me.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: b.glass on November 22, 2008, 01:08:00 PM
I think my buck might be close but have never had him officially measured. I would like to get him in the Compton Archives though.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Swamp Pygmy on November 22, 2008, 01:27:00 PM
B.Glass. I'm sorry I'm unfamiliar with that. Compton has a trad only trophy book?

As for P&Y bucks. I don't have anything against guys that hunt them. I won't shoot small bucks. So it'll probably be a LONG time before I shoot a big buck. But I hope to one day have the skills to get up on trophies.

But I want a trophy off of untouched woods though. Like the public lands I hunt. You can keep a P&Y from the ways alot of people get them. Not going into specifics as not to offend anyone. But I think we all know what I mean.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: TRAP on November 22, 2008, 02:17:00 PM
I've never had one scored.  Never wanted to place a number on an animal.  I have too much respect for them to do that.  

I rifle hunted a few times with a fella that shot a deer in the early 80s that scored 149 7/8 after the drying period, and the guy was so disapointed the buck didnt make the Missouri Big Bucks 150" minimum.  I mean, give me a break,  that deer was a pig, regardless of his score.  That ordeal really turned me off about books and scores and all the hoopla.  

I hunt for good shots at mature whitetails and when that all comes together I'm happy. Heck, I'm happy just to be hunting for that shot. I've been blessed with the opportunity to take a few "good ones" but have no idea what they score.  

Trap
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: BDann on November 22, 2008, 02:36:00 PM
I've got one on my wall, but unfortunately I didn't shoot it... I found it dead on the family farm in Kansas while training a bird dog. He scored around 208 and change back in 1987. Great motivation though...
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: adkmountainken on November 22, 2008, 03:03:00 PM
never took one with a bow yet but would never have one scored again. took a B&C with rifle and 2 others that were in the 140-150 class. not in to the scoring system anymore. can't wait to take the first tropy with bow!
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Tyler Carlson on November 22, 2008, 04:11:00 PM
I've never understood why some people frown upon wanting to shoot a p&y or b&c animal, or find it degrading or disrespectful to score an animal. Not that there's anything wrong with not wanting to score a deer or caring about how big an animal is, but to knock down trophy hunting seems strange to me. The original poster asked how many p&y animals we have shot, not what we classify as a "trophy" or what we personally think about scoring systems.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Robhood23 on November 22, 2008, 04:20:00 PM
1 and right on Tyler. I get a kick out of the high and mighty. My questions is "Why wouldn't you want to support a group who has done so much for the sport we love"?
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Tyler Carlson on November 22, 2008, 04:25:00 PM
Amen brother. The Pope & Young club trys to advance and protect bowhunting, not tear it down.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Mountain_Man on November 22, 2008, 04:33:00 PM
I've take'n several that qualified for "Y" ...one of these days I hope to put a "P &" in front of one.
  :bigsmyl:

I dont see a thing wrong with measure'n or scoring. Just because it aint for you ..dont think you should degrade people for doin' it.

I will agree that any animal harvested "fair chase" is indeed a trophy.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: kctreeman on November 22, 2008, 04:44:00 PM
A bunch is a good estimate.  KS IA and north MO helps alot.Nothing yet this year I am after the most elusive deer that I've ever hunted.  Been quite a dry spell going back almost a year.  Kind of losing the drive that keeps me in a stand all day.  Find myself rolling over in bed and snuggling with the wife instead of hitting the woods with my buddies.  Not sure if it's medication, wife getting better or my buddies just getting uglier.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: K.S.TRAPPER on November 22, 2008, 08:48:00 PM
Amen Tyler  :D   We let the young ones go and shoot the mature deer. We don't own the land and we do hunt on public too.

I could care less what other people shoot size wise. I like to see all of them, big, small, typical non-typical, and does too.

I can score deer and I do score mine and many other peoples deer too. I have not entered any of mine in the books P/Y or B/C and I probably will not but thats cool if you do. Injoy the hunt folks and be happy for everybody else when the do score, were all in this togather.  :archer:

Tracy
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: TRAP on November 22, 2008, 09:08:00 PM
LOL, relax folks, I dont think anyone was tearing down the P&Y club.

I sure wasnt intending to bash anyone for their choice to score and enter a deer and if you took it that way, my sincere appologies.

Respectfully submitted, High and Mighty

 ;)
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: L82HUNT on November 22, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
130, 137, 154.

Now I dont hardly shoot anything any more.  Always asking myself maybe something behind this doe.  And when a buck walks by well its not quite big enough.  But I enjoy my hunts, and that's all that matters.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: bmfer on November 22, 2008, 09:22:00 PM
I've only shot one buck that would be considered good for around here, and he was my first deer, ever, and not even close to any book. All the scoring and stuff is nice, but I decide if it's a trophy. That being said I'm happy with my first trad deer I took in the early season, a nice fat doe! Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing anybody for scoring thier bucks, and if I shot a big one, I'd be the first guy to put up pics and stuff, but the again, I'd do that with a six point.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Missouri Sherpa on November 23, 2008, 12:17:00 AM
None in the book for me.  I have one that would make it, if I entered him and another taken with a compound but he hasn't been entered either.  Might have another one this year if I can connect on him before he moves off and disappears after the rut.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: novahunterpa on November 23, 2008, 08:44:00 AM
I have 0 in the book and it will prob stay that way, But if i do ever get one I think i would have it scored.  I think it's unlikely, we just really dont have deer around here that would make it into books
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Gordy on November 23, 2008, 08:55:00 AM
I'm ashamed...I only have two p&Y size does.....  :D
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Otto on November 23, 2008, 10:11:00 AM
Nada.

Got 4 of em that score 124 and 7/8's though.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: coconutdave on November 23, 2008, 10:17:00 AM
zero. I don't score them.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Red Boar on November 23, 2008, 10:23:00 AM
One for me...always looking for number two.    :archer:
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 23, 2008, 10:57:00 AM
As more and more states realize the benefits to managing for quality, I belive the opportunities for such bucks will increase.  Many of you guys are no doubt very good deer hunters, but simply do not have the opportunity to hunt P&Y class bucks. I see it all the time. A guy comes from Virginia, or PA here to Illinois and shoots his first P&Y buck during their first week.  Did that guy all of a sudden become a better deer hunter?  NO.  He simply had access to a better area thats all.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Guru on November 23, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
Jon, that was very well said my friend...I absolutely agree 100%!

I have three that would make it....all out of state, I live in eastern NY (MO., Conn., and MT.)

My two biggest east coast deer are from Conn.....and I've hunted there a maybe 1/2% as much as I've hunted in NY over the years.

Ya gotta hunt where the big ones live!
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Red Boar on November 23, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by jonsimoneau:
As more and more states realize the benefits to managing for quality, I belive the opportunities for such bucks will increase.  Many of you guys are no doubt very good deer hunters, but simply do not have the opportunity to hunt P&Y class bucks. I see it all the time. A guy comes from Virginia, or PA here to Illinois and shoots his first P&Y buck during their first week.  Did that guy all of a sudden become a better deer hunter?  NO.  He simply had access to a better area thats all.
Agree fully, and very well said, Jon.  I live and hunt in FL...no P&Y's to be had here.  I also hunt my home state of PA.  These are mountain deer and just don't get that big...antler restrictions are helping, however.      :)
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Jack Whitmire Jr on November 23, 2008, 12:36:00 PM
All mine are P&Y - Poke em Young  :)  

Jon said it best , I have bowhunted 34 years and can count the P&Y Bucks on one hand that I have ever saw.

Jack
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on November 23, 2008, 12:36:00 PM
I only entered the first one I killed. I don't remember what it scored and couldn't find the certificate if my life depended on it. I've shot a few more since then that would have made P&Y, but didn't enter them because it just doesn't appeal to me anymore. That's not to say it's right or wrong though, but I've already scratched that itch once and it hasn't come back.

Yes, it's fun to shoot something with a large rack, but sometimes I think "deer hunting" would be much better in this state if the highest scoring set of antlers roaming the woods was about 100 inches or less. Trophy deer herds fall under the category of "be careful what you wish for." I'd trade every rack in my house over 125" to go back to the time when access in this state required a knock on a door, and handshake, maybe some chores, and a promise of respect, instead of a checkbook, a bidding war, a legal document.

Maybe that's why I hunt in Wisconsin more than Illinois.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: deermaster1 on November 23, 2008, 12:44:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Jason R. Wesbrock:
I only entered the first one I killed. I don't remember what it scored and couldn't find the certificate if my life depended on it. I've shot a few more since then that would have made P&Y, but didn't enter them because it just doesn't appeal to me anymore. That's not to say it's right or wrong though, but I've already scratched that itch once and it hasn't come back.

Yes, it's fun to shoot something with a large rack, but sometimes I think "deer hunting" would be much better in this state if the highest scoring set of antlers roaming the woods was about 100 inches or less. Trophy deer herds fall under the category of "be careful what you wish for." I'd trade every rack in my house over 125" to go back to the time when access in this state required a knock on a door, and handshake, maybe some chores, and a promise of respect, instead of a checkbook, a bidding war, a legal document.

Maybe that's why I hunt in Wisconsin more than Illinois.
im to young to remember those days, but i dream about em.  asked a farmer last year if i could hunt his land, he said no, i rent it out to a couple of clubs, and get thousand$ a year for it.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: alligatordond on November 23, 2008, 12:46:00 PM
I hear ya, Jason.

100 inches- thats a dang nice deer for my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: Michael Arnette on November 24, 2008, 12:54:00 AM
0 , but those does taste good. I saw my first P&Y this season at about fifty yards: exciting. Most deer don't make it past forkhorns where I hunt. Oklahoma is still working on a better management system but every year seems to be better than the last. Jon hit the nail on the head. I'll be out tomarrow and the wind is supposed to be perfect for that same stand so maybe I'll have an encounter, who knows?
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: George D. Stout on November 24, 2008, 05:18:00 AM
Those numbers are used to quanitify a hunter, not a deer, and it has put a bad taste in the stew.  High-fiving, immature idiots permeate the so-called hunting shows on television and do more harm than good to the real sport of archery and hunting.  I don't measure antlers....I measure the experience.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: overbo on November 24, 2008, 06:41:00 AM
IMO,the reason hunting is called a sport.You keep score.0 that I know of.Got one that I've been told I should score.
Title: Re: How many P&Y whitetails do you have?
Post by: bowtough on November 24, 2008, 08:05:00 AM
I have two,a 164 10pt,and a 130 9pt. I truly love to match witts with mature whitetail bucks.But I've found mature does at times harder to fool. I love hunting all deer, the hunt with traditional gear is what really,I think,puts the icing on the cake.I'm thankful God created the hunter spirit in me.Bowtough.