I know we've done this before, but I didn't pay close attention then since I didn't own a nice big canvas tent, which I just bought. I can get a top-end small steel barrel stove for $225 but it weighs 40 pounds and is probably more than I need for a tight heavy 12x12 canvas tent. I'd appreciate your advice on foremost SAFE, then affordable, lightweight packable tent stoves, 4" pipe. Thankee kindly! dave
The folks at Kifuru [spelling] down in Golden make a nice light weight stainless foldable and packable rig for their lightweight tents. Took one to Alaska in September but didn't even use it. I don't know if they have a web site or not.
The kifuru pack stove is available through Cabelas if you can't find it anywhere else or just wanted to take a look at it.
http://www.kifaru.net/TIPI.HTM
They have stoves of varying sizes.
I have not seen the Kifaru stove on the Cabelas website.
the kifaru stove is only useful in light pack situations. We used one on a fly in hunt in Alaska. It has since been retired and replaced. For a 12x12 canvas you are not going to be back packing it. So go with a small wood stove like a 2 dog or something along that line.
Do a google search on tent wood stoves.
You should get a bunch of stuff.
We have a 5 dog for our 16x20
Mike
>>For a 12x12 canvas you are not going to be back packing it.<<
Good point.
Mike: what size K stove did you retire? Do you want to sell it? :)
Check out Cylinder Stoves:
Cylinder Stoves (http://www.cylinderstoves.com/catalog/-c-21.html?osCsid=0cad2739905cdc94619198d98215b185)
Excellent quality. They'll do the job and you'll never have to buy another one.
those little propane heaters might work
I made a couple stainless stoves for my tents. A 12 by 12 by 24" keeps my 10 by 12' tent warm down to about 15 degrees. If I tarp the top of the tent it's good to below zero.
The stoves were made of old resterant diswashers and popriveted together at the bottom, use steel rivets and they last a longtime.
Both stoves can be packed in by horses, they aren't heavy.
Mike's right - I replaced my Kifaru Arctic stove with the 4-Dog Ultralight II in titanium. It's the cat's meow. I had added titanium stove pipe made for it and the total is incredibly light. Here's the link:
http://www.fourdog.com/page3.html
For around $100 you should be able to find a GI stove from a surplus store. The problem w/ light stoves is they tend to burn faster and the thin metal doesn't radiate heat as well as the heavier steel. The GI model loads from the top and will burn fairly slow. The unit weighs around 30 lbs.
I'd listen to John...he is always one step ahead of me! 4 Dogs is what I was going to suggest.
John, we need to talk about a package deal on that hat and yak...
The Four Dog, Five dog model will drive you out of our 16x20x5 outfitters tent when it's in the teens outside. I have no doubt we could be playing cards in shirt sleeves at below zero. I've been in a lot of camps over the years and seen a lot of stoves.
IMHO there are a few things that it doesn't make sense to be cheap on: Tent, sleeping bag and stove.
Everything else can be a el cheapo but those things have to work everytime.
I think a 2 dog model would work great in the 12x12.
Mike
BTW the kafiru stove I was talking about was John's. We used it on a fly in moose hunt in Alaska.
Sportsman's warehouse sells a line of packable steel stoves that are light and reasonably priced.
My brother uses a barrel stove kit, at 10 degrees you are literally sleeping on top of your sleeping bag...PR
A bit pricey, but the Sims stove is kind of the standard in Wyo/Montana for pack stoves;
http://www.wtp.net/simsstov/
I used one for years when camping in wall tents, and they are pretty efficient and fold down to be easily packed, either in your pickup or on horses.
I bought my 14X16 wall tent and stove from www.davistent.com (http://www.davistent.com) My wife and I spent 10 days in the Black Hills, in 12 degree weather, quite comfortably with the large stove.
You definitely won't be packing it anywhere, but it came at a good price and good customer service.
Those stoves that Davis Tents are selling look very similar to the Cylinder Stoves.
(BTW, I'm in the market for a new wall tent and hope to purchase one this winter. I've checked around and I'm already pretty well sold on the Davis Tents.)
i have a davis an had it for 10-12yrs I use it every year an its still in good shape, i sometimes wish i would of bought a tipi having that open fire is kinda COOL
Sorry the question was about stoves , i have one of those Davis sells its the mid size an heats really well, i would buy the larger one if i did it again cuz it will hold more wood wick means the fire last last longer
Dave,
If you are caught up with all the websites and research that everyone has offered you, I have yet another site and stove for you to look at. It's the www.TitaniumGoat.com (http://www.titaniumgoat.com) website which has a light, packable cylinder stove. Hopefully one of these will work for ya.
Bill
Panther Primitives have them.:www.pantherprimitives.com They have 2 differant style.The one comes in 3 sizes,the other in 1 size.
I have a heat buddy heater and they work great, when we have ice storms in keeping part of the house warm with a window cracked I always figured one or two of those propane heaters would be the trick if I was in the mountains of VA in a 12X12 tent, just make sure you have some air flow to avoid CO poisoning. You can get adapters to use them from larger tanks.
Dave,
I happen to work for one of the companies mentioned above, feel free to PM me if you want to discuss stove options.
I built this stove out of a 20 gallon Barrel for about $120.00 with the help from all the guys here. My tent is 10x10 and it works extremely well. One other Idea is you can use a 30 gallon barrel and buy a kit a friend of mine has a 12x12 tent and he made a 30 gallon barrel stove and it works very well also I beleive the cost was around $75.00. Just be sure you burn the barrel before you use it in your tent. (http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u335/Ouradajim/wb-1.jpg)
Thank you friends. I'll be sure to check out ALL your good tips. Dave
I use one of these in my 12x12 tent (the Alaskan model). http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=&id=0005876513918a&navCount=2&podId=0005876&parentId=ca t550002&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat550002&hasJS=true (http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.jsp_A&_DAV=&id=0005876513918a&navCount=2&podId=0005876&parentId=cat550002&masterpathid=&navAction=push&catalogCode=IJ&rid=&parentType=index&indexId=cat550002&hasJS=true)
We burn duraflame logs and wood and it heats our tent well. The duraflames are good for burning all night long and keeping the chill down. When we are hanging out in the tent, wood is better for really stoking it up. Since it's a riveted stove, we had to use high-temp silicone on all the seams since it drew too much air and went through wood way too fast. Since sealing it, it has worked very well and much more efficiently. I love my wall tent!!!
I just took delivery of a military M1950 Yukon stove (front load model) and I have also used the military M1949 model stoves (top load), both will burn multiple fuels and heat very well. Mine came with the liquid fuel burner option which can use gas and white gas according to the instructions. I tried it out burning wood in a military GP Small tent with the winter liner and a wood platform floor and it was a little more stove than I needed. GP Small is a 17.5' x 17.5' canvas tent so not really something that you would pack in to a remote location without some form of transport and the stove doesnt collapse so again not all that suitable for packing in.
I know these stoves are dependable and versatile and for $100.00 they are a bargain compared to a lot of the stoves I looked at before making my purchase.