hey guys, I have a columbia gallatin wool jacket and bibs. They are really nice for the price, however I noticed on windy days that it's not so nice.... =) I am looking for a nice top and pants whether it's a base layer or not. Whatever it is, I need it to be windproof. I can't really spend all that much, but would love to hear what works for you. Anyone out there come across anything that would help when layering?
Shawn
Natural Gear Wintercept. Excellent stuff
I wear a cheap golf-style windshirt under my Gallatin coat, makes a lot of difference on a windy day :thumbsup:
I use the windshear from Cabelas. If there's somewhere windier than here, I ain't been there.
I 2nd the windshear from cabelas. I use the 100% wool w/ the windshear, pullover, and it is supper warm. No wind whatsoever penetrates, they offer different camo versions (if thats what you prefer).Best money I ever spent on a garmet
I have a windshear wool sweater and a windshear shirt from Cabelas that I wear under my galatin wool. Perfect on windy days. Just picked up a berber fleece pull over with windshear too. That stuff is great. dino
I found the wind shear layer in the Cabela's wool pants and jacket to be so noisy I actually cut out the liner and tossed it!
I got the old military M-65 liners (new from US Cavalry)for my coat and pants and just stitched in buttons to hold them in. Works wonders. I actually use the liners in my Filson jacket and bibs as well. They stop the wind and add insulation.
Riot
I hunt windy...real windy places. I too think that the wind shear is noisy, especially as the temps drop. I prefer layering a wind break under my wool, those quilted nylon lined lightweight jackets work best and are cheap if you can find one. My favorite is a "Big Smith" brand I think. Also those quilted flannel shirts will do the same. As far as pant, simple layers will do the trick. Wind is tough to hunt in, especially in cold weather, so plan to keep hunts in tree stands during prime times, or stay on the ground, where it is much warmer, if possible.
I too have the complete set of Gallatin wool. I wear 2 layers of ploartech under it, & that works well.
I'm very pleased with how my Sitka Gear blocks wind for being "soft shell technology", no more Gore-tex clammy. Cabela's windshear products are great for a stand or blind but like Bjorn, I found them very noisy if still hunting/stalking.
Oh come on Mark, the wind never blows around Livingston!
As someone who used to live in Casper, Wy., where the wind never blows over 80mph and a 'breezy' day is 20-30mph, I layer with a wool sweater and a wool jacket. I have a windproof jacket, but found that it doesn't breathe at all and if you are moving around, it gets pretty sweaty inside the jacket.
I've heard a few people say windshear is noisy..... if mine is, I cant tell. My windstopper from cabelas was extremely noisy.
i dont like wind proof liners on wool coats. the wind will blow right through the wool, thats holding the heat, and then stop on the wind proof layer, stopping the wind but robbing your warmth. sooooo, i bought a l l bean maine guide coat, not wind proof, and for super windy days, just put a cabelas un insulated rain coat, like the rain suade or the space rain gear coat over it, to block the wind AND keep the warmth in.
Gortex will also stop wind. Mos tof the time though, I also like a quilted flannel shirt for the last layer. I like to block the wind with the last layer, not the layer closest to my body.
If it is too bad I wear rain gear.If the wind is blowing hard enough to need it everything is noisy anyway.jmo
I use my windshear under my wool. I looked at several windshear garmets at Cabela's and found all the camo patterned sweaters to be way to noisey but found one that is just forest green and no noise. I usually carry it in and put it on after getting to my stand otherwise I overheat. No problems, so far, hunted down to 9 degrees this morning.
I agree that a windproof barrier should be worn as far outside as possible...there is always trade offs though. I still like my layer of wool outside.
Wind noise can certainly cover the noise of the windstopper....but as temps drop, that stuff gets noisier, and it takes a lot less wind to feel the effects...at some point it is too noisy for me. Some "windbreaker" jackets are of a soft material too, and I have layered them over an insul layers, but beneath my wool still, and that can work.
I have a windproof 'golf shirt' from Gander.
I don't seem to need as much under it as without. Then I add another Wool sweater over it if I need more.
In late season, I have a Rivers West jacket that is GREAT for warm and wind/water proof and quiet. It's bulk is the only problem I have with it. The newer stuff is a bit thinner.
I have a windshear shirt from Cabelas. Work great to stop the wind. I also have windshear wooltimate pants (cabelas), but the wind sails right through these!!
Also have two fleece jackets from Day One Camo, and no wind gets through these.
However, nothing beats my Filson Dbl. Mac. jkt. These jackets are "armour" againist the cold.
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If it has wind shear, it rocks.
I use the Cabela's Berber fleece with Windstopper.
I love it. Never noticed any noise and really comfortable especially if I get a little sweaty. Evaporates and I'm dry again.
The biggest problem with my BF pants is that I get too hot in them while moving around and have to pack them.
All the windshear I have is super quiet. I have a turtleneck and fleece bottoms and several fleece tops. It is the best I have found and it has never been noisy unless the new stuff is noisy. Mine is all at least 3 or 4 years old! Shawn
stoney creek gear of new zealand is the best gear i know of. check it out. a mate of mine hunted B.C. a few years ago. everyone wanted to buy it off him. bit pricey but i've had my stuff for about 8 years. i reckon thats great value. with the $US the way it is against ours ($AUD) probably worth the effort.
Probably not made any longer, but I have a ASAT fleece jacket with a product called "Comfort Max" in it..i.t's a quiet membrane... coat is totlly windproof...I carry it when exherting though..no tranpiration of sweat!
Also have a knit face/head mask..with comfortmax in it... very nice. I had to cut it out around the ears, though..there it was noisey...but not in the coat.
Doc, Gray Wolf uses Comfort Max in their wool.
Eric
Cabela's Wooltimate with windshear. It's very quiet and NO wind gets through.
I've used Frogg Toggs under my wool outer layer for wind and switched places when it rained.
I've been using my windshear for two year and in below freezing and sub zero weather. Never have had it act noisy in my opinion. I do have some camo that is "windproof" that sound like a your sitting in a Hefty trash back when it gets below freezing, but I switched to windshear because it was so quite. Don't think I'll ever use anything else. dino