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Title: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 18, 2008, 09:26:00 AM
Hey guys.  I shot a deer last night, and when I hit him, he let out a groan.  I've never had one do this before.  He was quartering away.  Shot him behind the shoulder and angled in forward.  No exit hole.  Shot looked good.  But never heard a noise like that before.  Can't look for him until I get off of work. Anyone had one do this before?
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: hockey7 on November 18, 2008, 09:34:00 AM
I've had two do this. It's almost like a death croak, let out for a couple seconds long. I've also had other deer run in at this sound.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Tom Leemans on November 18, 2008, 09:35:00 AM
Never heard a groan before. Sure it wasn't some kind of long grunt? I've heard that.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 18, 2008, 09:38:00 AM
No, it was for sure a long groan.  He did it right when I shot him.  It's killing me to not be able to look for him right now.  I think I may be able to leave work early.  It's pretty cold here right now, so I am not too worried about the meat, but it's gonna be a tough tracking job with no exit hole.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Pat B. on November 18, 2008, 09:57:00 AM
Groan or no groan... Is this one of those huge  oh my gosh Illinois bucks ??
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: SouthMDShooter on November 18, 2008, 09:58:00 AM
id groan to if someone just put an arrow through my lungs
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on November 18, 2008, 10:00:00 AM
I have hit & heard deer make this sound. It is a Death groan, just like a bear would make.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 18, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
Guys, I don't think he was a real monster, but a good one.  I did not have much time to look him over.  He came in hard and fast.  
Mysticguido, I like your answer.  I am praying that he is down.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Smilingg on November 18, 2008, 10:12:00 AM
That deer is down and close by, I'd say. I hit one like that, heard the prolonged groan, and the buck dropped dead about 5 seconds later.

Good luck...
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Shaun on November 18, 2008, 10:19:00 AM
I've heard it once when I shot one with a smoke pole. Almost like the death groan of a bear. One long low blaht. My dear was dead right there.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Gehrke145 on November 18, 2008, 10:21:00 AM
I've had it happen a few times.  All deer were shot in the lungs and went down fast
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: A.S. on November 18, 2008, 10:22:00 AM
Good luck with your tracking job Jon. I really appreciated your words of encouragement the evening I shot my buck.

Allen
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Friends call me Pac on November 18, 2008, 10:45:00 AM
My first deer this year made a groaning sound too.  Sounds like the same kind of hit too.  She was dead in less than 10 seconds.  

I had never heard one make that kind of sound after being hit before either.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Hawkeye on November 18, 2008, 10:52:00 AM
I had one of the does I killed this year do exactly that, but in her case the arrow was a few inches high and cut her spine completely in half (Landshark head from ladder stand), cut the artery beneath, and caught the top of one lung.  

She went directly down, of course, and gave a single, long bawl/groan.  Seemed more like "HEY!, What was THAT!!" than anything else.  Then she went to "sleep."  I was surprised to hear the vocalization.

Hope your buck decided a "nap" is in order, too, and that your tracking job will be an easy one.

Daryl
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Gaff on November 18, 2008, 10:58:00 AM
my buddy had one make a noise like your explaning. we figured it was just the last bit of oxygen leaving his lungs. im sure if you stuck a broadhead in my lungs id make some weird noise to!

what are ya using for a head? and make sure we get pics, you know how we get when we dont see pics!!! lol   good luck jon  :thumbsup:  

jamie
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: 2-BIG on November 18, 2008, 11:06:00 AM
I've heart shot a few deer that let out a loud roaring type of noise when the arrow hit them.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Kingwouldbe on November 18, 2008, 11:52:00 AM
Your in luck!!! I speak Buck, he said: Oh! poo-poo     :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: swp on November 18, 2008, 11:57:00 AM
Shot a doe throught the lungs and hit the opposite shoulder blade she groaned. She went down in 75 yards. Lets see some pics when you find him.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: DRR324 on November 18, 2008, 12:21:00 PM
Jon,
I shot one a loooong time ago with wheels in the rear end, not by choice- blood tracking a buddies buck- needed to finish it off- 40 yards right through the you know what.  Anyway- that buck "groaned- but more of a bawl type sound"
It was something to hear- ran off about 50 yards bawling the whole way, til he fell over.  Not to make light of the situation- but it still brings up some good conversation when hanging with the boys.  Your shot was true- post some pics....
Dave
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 18, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
Guys, I'm getting nervous now.  My buddy was able to go out and start tracking a little while ago.  He said there was not much blood (which I kinda figured due to no exit hole) and that he lost the trail after 100 yards.  Sounds like I may be doing a lot of grid searching for this one.  I hate it when I don't get an exit hole.  I really think the shot was a good one though.  It's hard to miss when they are only 5 paces off of your tree!
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on November 18, 2008, 01:18:00 PM
I've heard that noise twice. Once was a double-lung / heart shot that took out the far side upper leg bone. He didn't go far. The other was a backstrap hit. That one ended up being killed by another hunter almost two month later. He was healed up just fine.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Bard1 on November 18, 2008, 01:56:00 PM
Exit hole or not, I think that deer is dead.  I have heard that sound too for a shot deer.  was a lung and heart shot.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Wary Buck on November 18, 2008, 03:04:00 PM
I hit a nice buck in IA on the upper front leg bone but just below the body line in '00.  Sounded like a baseball bat.  Knocked the buck down and he made that loud sound you speak of and I believe it is similar to what we today call the roar or growl.  It was shockingly loud.  The buck hopped back up and ran off a bit, stood, and took off.  Blood trail petered out and Barry Wensel found his antler in the spring.

Also had a spine hit buck in '86 make a similar noise.  Hope you get that buck and get back on here with some pics, Jon.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Bill Turner on November 18, 2008, 05:23:00 PM
I'd bet on that deer being dead. Good luck in finding him. If my memory serves me right, you've had a heck of a year. :notworthy:
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Surewood Bob on November 18, 2008, 11:23:00 PM
many years ago (44) I shot a nice buck right through the heart and he made a definite"groan"
I wasn't sure of the hit at first, but he only went a short distance and took a dirt nap. Wait,
did I say 44 years ago - can I really be that old.
Yep I am ! (18) when I shot that deer.I have seen and heard many unusual sounds while hunting here
in Oregon, but that is the only deer I have ever heard groan (different than a "bawl")
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 18, 2008, 11:46:00 PM
Here is the update so far.  I just got back from tracking.  We lost the trail after 100 yards or so, but then I just picked it up again about 30 minutes ago.  Unfortunately, I had obligations I could not miss so I again had to leave.  I tracked for 8.5 hours so far.  At the end before I had to leave I found my arrow.  It had worked it's way out.  Going by the amount of penetration it looks as though the arrow stopped when it hit either the offside shoulder or the bottom of the rib cage. The part of the arrow that penetrated was covered with dark red blood.  For sure not a flesh wound, but we will see what happens.  I for sure did not get both lungs, or he would have been closer.  So far he has gone 150 to 175 yards.  I will pick up the trail again tomarrow.  This has been a long tracking job thus far.  It has been cold here, and I am hoping that as long as the coyotes don't open him up, maybe the meat will be ok. Wish me luck guys!
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 18, 2008, 11:47:00 PM
oops.  That should have read that I again picked up the trail an hour and 30 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Hawkeye on November 18, 2008, 11:59:00 PM
Good luck, Jon.  At least things sound promising with the latest turn of events.  Hope you find him, and congratulations on the "due diligence" you have put into seeing this through to the end.

Wish I were a bit closer and I'd come help you search.  Guess instead I'll just send best wishes for success from Peoria!!

Daryl
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Guru on November 19, 2008, 05:28:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Wary Buck:
I believe it is similar to what we today call the roar or growl.  It was shockingly loud.  

 Hope you get that buck and get back on here with some pics, Jon.
Jon, I've hit a few that made a sound exactly as Bryce described.....Hope you get him bud...good luck
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Shaun on November 19, 2008, 06:19:00 AM
Sounds like maybe liver and one lung. He should be down - liver does not stop bleeding but it can take a while. Good luck in the search.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: longbowben on November 19, 2008, 08:34:00 AM
This is making me lose sleep good luck.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 19, 2008, 09:22:00 AM
Heading out now.  Got work off.  My boss is gonna kill me after the time I have taken off.  I will post the results later......but it may be late tonight.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: hogdancer on November 19, 2008, 09:56:00 AM
I wish I lived near-by I'd be there helping. Good luck !
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Post by: Brian Krebs on November 19, 2008, 06:12:00 PM
tick tock tick tock - hope he finds him !
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: A.S. on November 19, 2008, 06:34:00 PM
Been thinking about you all day, hope you find him!
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Post by: ishiwannabe on November 19, 2008, 06:57:00 PM
Hope you are dragging a deer...
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Post by: Frenchymanny on November 19, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
Good luck!

F-Manny
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Post by: JEFF B on November 19, 2008, 08:50:00 PM
good luck!!!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: SouthMDShooter on November 19, 2008, 09:10:00 PM
Hope you got him,
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 19, 2008, 10:41:00 PM
Hey guys, I'm back.  after a total of 18 hours tracking the past 2 days I found him.  Of course the coyotes beat me to it, which I kinda figured.  But he is a good 4x4 in the mid 130's range.  So I am tagged out for bucks.  2 pope and young deer in a season is a definite first for me!  I learned a couple of valuable lessons on this blood trail.  Probably the most important is that when you put an arrow into the vitals of a deer, the blood trail never really does stop, unless for whatever reason you do not kill the deer.  Even when you can't see it....the blood is there.  You just have to get on your hands and knees and find specks the size of needle heads.  This way you at least know what trail the deer took and can establish direction.  This buck made a couple of turns, and if it were not for spending hours on my hands and knees, I likely would not have recovered him.  I wish I could have gotten to him before the coyotes did, but still I am very happy.  Looks like I am hunting does now.  Hell, I might even go pheasant hunting....I have not done that in years since I am normally in a treestand!  Good luck to you guys.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 19, 2008, 10:44:00 PM
By the way, the buck went about 300 yards on only one lung.  I gotta tell you I am getting to the point where I don't really like quartering away shots.  Seems like often you get one lung or you hit the broadside shoulder and do not get an exit wound.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: MOstate on November 19, 2008, 10:45:00 PM
Congrats on finding him!
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Guru on November 19, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
Way to stick it out Jon...any pix?
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: longbowben on November 19, 2008, 10:51:00 PM
Congrats i dont like quartering shots eather allways one lung and travel to far and lose blood.But you find them after many hours of tracking.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: SouthMDShooter on November 19, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
Congrats! Where are the pics?
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 19, 2008, 11:04:00 PM
Hey guys, I'll have some pics but they were taken on a film camera.  Need a few days to get them on the computer.  The coyotes tore him up so bad that even the cape will not be useable. I will have to get another cape.
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Huntrdfk on November 19, 2008, 11:11:00 PM
How to stick with it Jon, good work. Too bad about the coyotes though.


David
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Bard1 on November 19, 2008, 11:34:00 PM
Jon, I applaude you on your persistence and willingness to get down and dirty not to mention the patience you have shown in the recovery of that buck.  You have truly honored the spirit of that animal.  I have tremendous respect for you.  Well done sir!
  :clapper:      :clapper:      :clapper:  

Derek
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: AMB on November 20, 2008, 12:01:00 AM
I hate the coyotes got him before you did, but I'm glad you found him.  Congratulations!
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: BOFF on November 20, 2008, 12:36:00 AM
Great news to read.
Congratulations for a job well done.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Fritz on November 20, 2008, 01:13:00 AM
Hate coyotes!!!  Way to hang in there!!! Look forward to seeing the rack.  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: Dave Bulla on November 20, 2008, 02:26:00 AM
Congrats and my compliments on your honesty.

Some guys would have cut off the rack, considered it the same as a "found dead" deer and kept hunting for another buck.  Glad to hear you still tagged it.  Can you contact the game warden and maybe get a replacement tag since it sounds like you probably lost the meat?
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jimmerc on November 20, 2008, 04:28:00 AM
Good Job Jon, Way to stick it out! We have the same trouble with the yotes here in ny! one of my last kills i found the same night by using the yotes, we went back after dark and listened for them,when we heard where they feeding on the kill went in and was able to save some of the meat!
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Post by: Shaun on November 20, 2008, 04:55:00 AM
Way to go Jon. You did good.
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Post by: A.S. on November 20, 2008, 06:50:00 AM
:thumbsup:
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Post by: DRR324 on November 20, 2008, 07:46:00 AM
Congrats on the recovery Jon!  Cna't wait to see the pics.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: jonsimoneau on November 20, 2008, 09:56:00 AM
Hey guys.  I'm proud of my tracking on this one.  It was a really tough trail.  The area I was hunting hosts not only coyotes but wild dogs/coydogs as well.  If you don't get to the deer quicky, they will. I still have the piece of mind knowing I made a fatal shot and that I did recover him.....even though it was not as quickly as I would have liked!  He will still look good on the wall, and the memories will last forever.  I'm on to the does now!
Title: Re: Shot a deer that made a weird noise UPDATE
Post by: longbowben on November 20, 2008, 10:22:00 AM
:clapper:    :clapper:  Great job on the follow up.
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Post by: Wary Buck on November 20, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
Jon, good work and great persistence.
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Post by: trapperDave on November 20, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
:thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :clapper:
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Post by: matthewp on November 20, 2008, 01:44:00 PM
Great Job Jon,
 That tracking job is something to be proud of.
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Post by: Brian Krebs on November 20, 2008, 02:09:00 PM
:thumbsup:    :archer:
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Post by: Bakes168 on November 20, 2008, 06:45:00 PM
Congrats!
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Post by: Holm-Made on November 20, 2008, 09:41:00 PM
As mentioned above, it is commendable that you used your tag on the animal.  Many hunters would have cut the rack off and kept buck hunting.  Chad