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Title: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: PastorSteveHill on November 09, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
If I nock at 1 inch high (for wood arrows) what disadvantage am I getting?  It take this high a nock to shoot woods for me. I shoot 3 under... Thanks
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: Dave Bulla on November 09, 2008, 07:16:00 PM
None whatsoever if that is where your bow shoots from.  In fact, I'll go so far as to say you are ahead of the game already since you've basically ignored standard dogma and did enough testing of your own to find where your bow shoots best for you.  

One inch is a bit on the high side since most bows shoot well at 1/2 to 5/8" but I've read here where quite a few people ended up in the inch range.  And like I said, it all comes down to what works best for you.  Bill Matlock of Predator bows used to always suggest STARTING at over an inch of nock hight and work down from there.  Claimed it was more forgiving of spine variations.
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: david_lewis93 on November 09, 2008, 07:57:00 PM
I retuned after putting on a new string and at first couldnt hit a round bale at 10feet much less than 10 yards.Put 6 or 7 twist into the flemish and raised the nock hight from3/8 up to almost3/4 and now I am back down to 4 inch groupes at 18 yards. I am working on shrinking that down before next year too maybe some 3-d also?
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: Dan Reeves on November 09, 2008, 09:43:00 PM
Mine likes 7/8" high, I let her have what she likes.
I did have some trouble accepting that though.
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: PastorSteveHill on November 09, 2008, 11:59:00 PM
Me too. I'm having all kinds of trouble accepting 1' nock, maybe could use a little more to be honest....  Thanks guys..
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: TomMcDonald on November 10, 2008, 12:05:00 AM
'If it feels good, do it!' - Cheif Wiggum.
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: bigislandmark on November 10, 2008, 01:21:00 AM
Howzit Pastor Steve,

My Great Plains SR shoots best with a nock height of 13/16. Had a hard time believeing it and acutally changed it the night before a hunt to 1/2 inches. BIG MISTAKE! Long story short, perfect shot at a goat but arrow porpoised so badly that the broadhead didn't penetrate enough to get a clean kill. Will never do that again!

Aloha,

      Mark
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: Soilarch on November 10, 2008, 02:41:00 AM
So let the newb get his head around this and make sure he's thinkging straight...


Many "trad" bows will shoot best with nocks set at well over 1/2" above "level" with the shelf?

Is this more common with 3-under?
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: TomMcDonald on November 10, 2008, 03:12:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by Soilarch:
So let the newb get his head around this and make sure he's thinkging straight...


Many "trad" bows will shoot best with nocks set at well over 1/2" above "level" with the shelf?

Is this more common with 3-under?
Mine's up there.
Get some bareshafting happening and see what works best on   your  bow with   your arrows and   your shooting style.
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: toot on November 10, 2008, 07:05:00 AM
I'll be darn......

This is gonna be like reloading for my target rifles..

Try this, try this, and try this..........

Don't get me wrong.. I absolutely love trying different things...

In fact.... I can't help it.......

But this one is interesting to learn....

Toot
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: d. ward on November 10, 2008, 07:18:00 AM
You guy's ever see those screw on or I guess screw up and down nocking point.No kidding if your wanting to test something,they work great for tuning.Wood aluminum and carbons may all have a bit different sweet spot on your string...do to the archers paradox.Flexing of the shaft?? .bd
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: DRR324 on November 10, 2008, 07:53:00 AM
:eek:  To read a post from a Pastor that starts out with "getting high", wow- my heads is in the gutter.... I was thinking it had to do with treestand hieght...
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: PastorSteveHill on November 10, 2008, 08:36:00 AM
Hahahah....  Sometimes I try and think of a subject title that will get the most readers and therefore the most responses.  Sorry if it was disappointing! hahahah...

Do always remember fellas, pastors aren't perfect, they are people...

As a matter of fact I  know one who has an addiction to shooting arrows all the time...    :D
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: OkKeith on November 10, 2008, 09:00:00 AM
I have messed around with this as well. What I have found in visiting with the guys I shoot with about this is that sometimes there are differences in how we measure. Not a lot, but some.

Pastor Steve, I haven't ever had a bow that liked a nock set that high, but that doesn't mean it won't work for you. Then again, I don't shoot 3 under either. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, I'd say.

A young lady that we shoot 3-D with pretty often shoots 3-under. She got a new bow and showed up at a shoot with it set up with  over-under nock points and was shooting 3-under with the cock feather in. Everyone (but me, I know better) was ribbing her a little about the set-up... until she shot a near perfect 3-D score and SMOKED everyone else. Then they were real interested to take a look at her set-up.

Do what works.

Good Luck,
OkKeith
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: PastorSteveHill on November 10, 2008, 11:57:00 AM
Thanks pal! Blessings....

It usually requires around 7/8 with carbons, and an inch high with wood arrows....
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: George D. Stout on November 10, 2008, 12:38:00 PM
Some shelves are designed that their high point is toward the back of the bow.  That will call for a higher nock height as well.  It mostly depends on where the arrow touches the shelf, and that can vary  from bow to bow.
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: Bjorn on November 10, 2008, 01:02:00 PM
Arrow diameter plays a role too.......and tapered wood shafting will require upping the nock a bit;
but 13/16, 7/8 etc.--those are just numbers; and thankfully this isn't nearly as much science as art.
Title: Re: Getting High/ What am I missing?
Post by: MI_Bowhunter on November 10, 2008, 01:16:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by TomMcDonald:
'If it feels good, do it!' - Cheif Wiggum.
:biglaugh:      :biglaugh:      :biglaugh:  

Looking a the poster's name and the thread title, how could I not click it?

As far at the actual topic, I don't really have anything to add to whats already been said.