I'm shooting Heritage 150's with a 200gr BH. They weigh in finished at around 530gr. Arrow lenght is 30" BOP. I want to shoot shafts that weigh at least 600gr or more while sticking with my 200gr BH. I don't want to fool with weight tubes so I was wondering what some of you other guys are using to get that heavy shaft. I'm shooting a 55# Grizzly.
I'm using Blackhawk Vapor 5000's with the heavy Snuffers on top of 125gr adapters. I cut and sanded 1/4" dowel rods to fit inside for a total weight of 900-905gr out of a 70# Hummingbird. The trick is to get dowel rods of the same density and cut them exactly flush against the inserts and nocks or else they will act as a ramrod when the arrow hits something. It does nothing for EFOC, but they fly well for me anyway.
I would try 250's then and start full length and tune from there with your 200 gr.BH.If they are too stiff you can add weights behind the insert to weaken the spine and still keep your 200 gr.BH.Why do you want 600 grs.,530 grs. is pretty good weight for a 55# Grizzly.Or another route you may try is to shorten the 150 alittle and add weight behind the insert,you could add a 20gr. and a 50gr. to give you 600 grs. while keeping your 200 gr. head.Can you shorten them or do you need that length,then you would need to go up to 250's.
USED TO SHOOT GT 35-55 29 INCH SHAFT WITH 125 BEHIND THE INSERT AND 125 BH. (250 UP FRONT) WEIGHED 490 IN HUNTER AND 540 IN TRADITIONAL WOOD GRAIN. NOW SHOOT 55-75 GT HUNTERS FROM SIPSEY RIVER (BLEMS) 30 INCH WITH 300 UPFRONT. WEIGH ABOUT 590 OR 610 WITH 145 GRAIN BH VERSUS THE 125 GRAIN BH. YOU COULD GET EVEN HEAVIER IF YOU USED THE 55-75 TRADS BUT I'M HAPPY WITH 600 GRAINS. TOUGH AND FLY WELL. BHILL
An Arrow Dynamics Trad Heavy would wiegh in at 600+ at 30 inches BOP.
I am a little confused by many of the comments I see re: Heritage 150, 250's. I am shooting a 55 lb Kota recurve @ 28.25 ". By the chart it looks like I should be shooting 250's, but I see quite a few fellows shooting 150's. I used the planing method as per the OL Adcock site and arrived at 29.25" with 125 snuffers.
I originally wanted to shoot wood, but the tuning seemed a little easier with carbons, and I had not shot any bows for about 10 years so I wanted to keep it simple. Also I read in one of Fred Asbell's books, and someone else mentioned that a little overspined was better than underspined so I never considered going to 150's. (Was I wrong?) I think I am getting good arrow flight, at least at this point in my shooting. I had been shooting pretty much on a daily basis , so am starting to see some consistancy. I may add some rope for another 100 grns eventually.
Gary
Quote....and someone else mentioned that a little overspined was better than underspined ....
I disagree. When tuning for broadheads I would suggest that you stay slightly to the weak side or underspined.
Dozer....what's wrong with a 530 gr arrow??? With your bow that puts you at approx. 9.6 grs/lb which is perfect. If that arrow is tuned for your bow it should blow through just about anything.
Brett
Dozer try 100gr brass inserts with your set up bet the fly good and will give you the weight you desire :thumbsup:
The last 2 seasons I was shooting the Gold Tips trad carbons. Not a bad arrow, but wanted more kinetic energy. Well with the new bow I started shooting the Alaska Archery Grizzlystiks. Wow. You want to talk about some weight. But it flies true. At present I have it topped with 125gr Snuffers. I do not know the weight for I have never scaled, nor do I own a scale. They just shoot true right off the bat. So I never had to play around with them.
I had herritage 250`s cut to 29in.with 100gr.brass insert`s and 145gr. points.Total weight was 603gr.So if you want to add weight up front ,try 50gr.or 100gr.brass insert`s.Both 3-Rivers and Custom King sells them.
Some have asked whats wrong with my 530gr arrows. I have some wooden shaft with a 200gr tip that weighs in slightly over 600 and I really like the way the 'feel' coming out of the bow. I also like the reduction in noise. Of course I could go with a high quality string instead of the cheap FF that it came with to acheive that.
Whats the name of that srting company I always see mentioned on here. Its 'Whispering Mountain' or something like that.
I have been considering Grizzly Stiks but wanted some feed back on them as they are expensive to buy without knowing anything about them.
Thanks for the responses fellas. I'm headed out early tomorrow morning to a soybean patch. I hope everything comes together.
I shoot CE Heritage 250's out of my Grizzly. Its the same as yours at 55#. My arrows weigh 626grns. 100grn brass insert, 165grn broadhead, and a 4in 4 fletch.
I also have 2 dozen 6075 CE terminator Hunters that fly ok. Havent tuned them of anything, i think these weigh somewhere around 630 w/o a 100grn insert and a 165 tip
You will not get the "same feel" wood vs carbon. They are two different animals. As long as the carbons fly good, I would leave them be.
I shoot AD Trads cut 28-3/4inch BOP with 100grain brass inserts, 100grain steel adapters, and 175grain modified Grizzlys for a total weight of 715grains. If you replaced my steel adapter and Grizzly head with your 200grain BH, the total weight would be 635grains. A longer arrow would add more.