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Title: Opinions PLEASE ???
Post by: The Ghost on October 29, 2008, 02:18:00 PM
What is the fastest Recurve Bow out there right now and they're price range.

THX
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Post by: fireball31 on October 29, 2008, 02:24:00 PM
Man you just opened a hornets nest. I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and go with the DAS's.  Expensive!!  If you don't mind me asking is this just personal interest or do you have a reason your looking for more speed?
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Post by: MI_Bowhunter on October 29, 2008, 02:26:00 PM
From what I hear the Borders are very fast but pricy. You will get as many answers to this as there are bows.  Be prepared.
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Post by: vermonster13 on October 29, 2008, 02:29:00 PM
The DAS isn't a bow. It's a riser that you can buy many different limbs for from other makers. What it does for speed depends on the limbs you buy and arrow weight.

Check out Blacky's reports and watch for a couple of new ones soon for the most accurate info.
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Post by: allanburden on October 29, 2008, 02:31:00 PM
I'm not much of a speed freak, but I am looking forward to all's opinions.
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Post by: The Ghost on October 29, 2008, 02:47:00 PM
I guess I should refine this a bit and what would be a good all around performance bow for say $600 or less. I really like the looks of a Widow but have never shot one and I know they are more than this amount new. Lets see if that helps things out....lol    Of course I know performance will also depend on draw weight and arrow combination.
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Post by: vermonster13 on October 29, 2008, 02:51:00 PM
The RER Arroyo, Quinn Stallion, Black Mountain Obsisian/Sheepeater, Martin Hatfield, Bear Super K, etc etc. Lots of bows that will seal the deal in that price range and even more if you go used.
Title: Re: Opinions PLEASE ???
Post by: ChuckC on October 29, 2008, 02:59:00 PM
Don't forget the Pittsley Predator which was recently rated pretty highly by Blackie as I recall.  They come in two versions including a Hunter and a Classic with the Hunter being the same bow but with fewer frills and so costing fewer dollars. They are offered for sale on this site on occasion.  

Blackie tests all bows at certain arrow weight to draw weight percentages,   (can't recall... is is 8 grains per lb of draw ?) so you are comparing apples to apples.
ChuckC
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Post by: Soilarch on October 29, 2008, 03:04:00 PM
Alright, I'll bite.

Are Blacky's or Mullaney's test results published somewhere online all in one place?  All I can find are the results for "XYZ" bow on "XYZ" homepage.


Nobody's mentioned the A&H ACS-X bows yet?
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Post by: R H Clark on October 29, 2008, 03:11:00 PM
A metal riser with ILF limbs will offer you more options.For a really fast arrow you can safely shoot 6gpp.They perform on par with other top bows at higher arrow weights but you can easily get different limbs without waiting on a custom order.

A new Quinn for under $300 new ain't pretty but is a solid fine shooting bow.

You can find a used Widow for around $600.They aren't the fastestor slowest but they have a lot of good all around shooting qualities and are well built.
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Post by: allanburden on October 29, 2008, 03:17:00 PM
I have a Bear K-mag now and it's pretty good.  Vermonster or anyone else in the know, will the S-mag accomodate a 29" draw. I'm 6'2" 230lbs and want a super mag but I'm worried about the draw length.
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Post by: Steertalker on October 29, 2008, 03:23:00 PM
Ghost,

I hope you won't take this wrong cause I sure don't want to interfere with whatever you want to do.  BUT.....I would suggest that you find a bow the fits you and allows you to shoot with consistant form.  A fast bow is worthless if it is not comfortable to shot and you can't hit anything with it.

With that said you may want to look into any of the metal riser bows such as the DAS, Quinns etc.  If speed is all you are after these types of bows allow you to shoot really light arrows and thus shoot in excess of 200 fps.  Just a suggestion.

Brett
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Post by: Curveman on October 29, 2008, 03:23:00 PM
I think the Border is right up there with the HexV limbs-it's the one I would go for due to it's carbon/torsional stability (and if you still prefer wood risers as I do)!  :)  I think they are around $1100?
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Post by: rbbhunt on October 29, 2008, 03:45:00 PM
And don't forget Sovereign Ballistick or Trident
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Post by: Tom L on October 29, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
I had a Martin Hunter 60# @28 it was verry fast.
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Post by: James Wrenn on October 29, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
Border
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Post by: Talondale on October 29, 2008, 04:07:00 PM
Blacky's review has the
*Black Widow
PA X Tulipwood
*Great Plains
SR Swift Black Hawk
*Bob Lee
Bicentennial Elite
*Predator
Custom Classic

All shooting in the 180-190+ FPS with finger release 9gpp arrows at 28" AMO
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Post by: p1choco on October 29, 2008, 04:29:00 PM
The Dryad Orion recurve is pretty fast and can be purchased under 600 bucks.
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Post by: Gordy on October 29, 2008, 05:06:00 PM
...at what poundage and draw with what weight arrow ?   :)

I'll grab the popcorn....
Title: Re: Opinions PLEASE ???
Post by: p1choco on October 29, 2008, 05:35:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Gordy:
...at what poundage and draw with what weight arrow ?     :)  

I'll grab the popcorn....
If that question was for me, it depends on how heavy the arrow was.  When I last shot through a chrono I was using an eight strand 8125 string w/hushpuppies shooting 600 grain GT trads and the reading I got was 191 on average of six shots.  The bow is 53@28 but more like 56 at my draw of 29".  Using lighter arrows, it was considerably faster.  Don't want you eating too much popcorn     :D   It'll spoil your supper.
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Post by: O.L. Adcock on October 29, 2008, 06:33:00 PM
Here is some of Blacky's tests...Keep in mind under the conditions he uses every foot/sec is 1% in horsepower so there is a big spread between the best and worse..

 http://www.blackysarchery.com/speed-results.htm

There aren't any Mulaney tests available other then the few bowyers have published.. He's done a jillion you'll never see.....O.L.
Title: Re: Opinions PLEASE ???
Post by: The Ghost on October 29, 2008, 08:26:00 PM
Just look what I started, this has been fun and thanks for all the opions, keep'em coming.
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Post by: Tracy Bellamy on October 29, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
This looks to be a hot lil topic..I dont have an opinion..Last time i opened my mouth i wound up married!!!
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Post by: DeerSpotter on October 29, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
I just ordered one from JD, at whisperstikbows.com,

What I ordered because of the lower poundage I was going with (45#) it has a bamboo core with hickory overlay, I have heard that the combination of the two making the limbs very fast.

The last recurve bow I had was a 43# @28.  I had a 410 gr arrow setup with it with 186 FPS.  Probably because my draw length is 29" that also was a whisperstik, this will be my 3 rd whisperstik.

Now I would suspect my new bow I will get about 190 fps with the same arrow, but I am wanting to use a 500 gr arrow setup.

By the way starting price for a recurve $495.00 give him a call.  Doesn't cost anything to talk to to him.  He has about 6 to 8 weeks waiting time.

Mine will be here about end of November


Carl