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Title: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: dcolavito on October 29, 2008, 11:17:00 AM
Hi,

Is there much benefit to sharpening the rear edges of fixed blade double edged broadheads?

It seems to make sense and I read something recently (can't recall where) that such blades are on the market - anyone know?

I'm new to your forum, so apoligies if this has been covered before.

Thanks,
Dave !
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: tradtusker on October 29, 2008, 11:35:00 AM
i guess it might help if the arrow did not totally penetrate and then pulled out, iv done it on a few broadheads i killed game with, but don't bother anymore.

i think Paul Schafer used to do it, but i could be wrong
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: beachbowhunter on October 29, 2008, 12:03:00 PM
I think it is a good idea just in case you don't pass through. The new Stingers have the back edge sharpened now.
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: d. ward on October 29, 2008, 12:15:00 PM
I've seen several different type older broadheads that have been sharpend on the back edge.Mostly older one's rather then new type though.I think in the 1950's and maybe the 1960's it was a little bit popular to sharpen the back.As mentioned above without a pass through it may help a bit.But again how much damage will it do if the critter pulls the broadhead out the same hole it went in.   bowdoc
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: hormoan on October 29, 2008, 12:37:00 PM
The Abowyer heads are all single bevel and single beveled on the back edges also. To me it only makes sense that if its not a pass thru. And anyones head being pulled back out by whatever. It might just as well cut its way out also.  And they do not travel the same route coming back out as going in.    (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l101/GUNSMITHAMMO/DSC00826.jpg)

OH NO DOC Ashby, is this a single bevel advantage                      
   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: hormoan on October 29, 2008, 01:18:00 PM
PS

Dang that was not neighborly, Welcome to tradgang Dave  :campfire:
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: Bowman0202 on October 29, 2008, 01:22:00 PM
Interesting looking broadhead.  Where are they available? Googled them and came up with nothing.
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: hormoan on October 29, 2008, 01:31:00 PM
Go to the sponcers up above select Abowyer I had a typo in the above info. Corrected now  :D
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: SlowBowinMO on October 29, 2008, 03:57:00 PM
A sharp rear portion of the main blade couldn't possibly hurt I would think (unless you overdraw  :D  ).  

Newer Magnus Stingers and the Silver Flames come this way, and probably some others I've forgotten.
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: TomMcDonald on October 29, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
Yeah the Ashby broadhead from Alaska Bowhunting looks to be sharp at the back.
  (http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/images/Product_Photos/large/Ashby_Broadhead_L.jpg)
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: Zradix on October 29, 2008, 05:34:00 PM
Personally I think the main reason is to make the head pull out of a target easier.
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: Outwest on October 29, 2008, 08:32:00 PM
I'm not sure without looking but I think blades that are sharpened on the rear are not legal in Or. and Wa.
Correct me if I am wrong.

John
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: Fallguy on October 29, 2008, 10:26:00 PM
Make sure your shafts are long enough or if you over draw it will be as the English say "a bloody mess".
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: d. ward on October 29, 2008, 10:45:00 PM
I'am with you guy's on this one.Add hair and a heart beat to the heat of battle and if you over draw that baby you gonna be bleeding too.Very nice looking broadheads though...but again I'am still not sure what purpose it would serve ? John you may very well be correct about that back edge being sharp NOT being legal in Wa.We have very strick broadhead rules here ... bowdoc
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: Markus on November 15, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by dcolavito:
Hi,

Is there much benefit to sharpening the rear edges of fixed blade double edged broadheads?

It seems to make sense and I read something recently (can't recall where) that such blades are on the market - anyone know?

I'm new to your forum, so apoligies if this has been covered before.

Thanks,
Dave !
There are two reasons I've choosen to give the Flames a rear edge.

Reason one is construction.
Superior strength is not the business of the back portion of a broadhead. Grinding a bevel at the back allowed to beef-up the front-portion while keeping the weight I wanted.

Reason two is aerodynamics.
Due to the thick blade, it might happen that turbulences occur which can decrease flight stability. Especially at higher speeds.

I must apologies to the tradbow archers and bowhunters. I just shoot compound bows so I wasn't aware of the problem that some folks might cut their fingers because they use the backside of the bh for a reproducible draw length control by pulling the broadheads rear against the index finger.

If you are using that shooting style, just grind the edge dull with a croc stick or something.

Best regards
Markus
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: BEN on November 15, 2008, 11:07:00 PM
Causes extra Damage if your arrow is still sticking out and your deer goes running off into the brush, smacking it around everwhere.

Doe i kiiled last week is case in point---I hit perfect textbook shot--at ground level. However from 20 ft. up and 7 yds. out, it was almost too straight at that point. my bow limbs struck my stand severely reducing penetration and arrow tip just broke through the hide just off center of brisket. Initial entry point was right between 2 ribs but with her runing through thick brush and smacking the arrow around, her "autopsy" was interesting: Her lungs were shredded----not a nice clean  4 bl. hole---SHREDDED! and the back edge of the Magnus Stinger had been pulled back up to a rib and caught, eventually sawing all the way through, leaving a jagged 4" entry hole.
Nice blood trail. She ran about 70 yds and there was nearly a constant trail of bright blood to follow.

Ben
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: Orion on November 16, 2008, 11:12:00 AM
I think there's little doubt that a broadhead with a sharpened rear edge will cause more damage if the arrow stays in the deer.  But that's not always good.  What if it's a non-lethal hit.  It may cause the animal a lot of unnecessary pain and tissue damage, and may even lead to it's death, but not necessarily its recovery.  Some folks did sharpen the rear edges of their broadheads in the 50s and 60s.  I didn't do it then for the above reason, and I won't be doing it now.
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: jrchambers on November 16, 2008, 08:40:00 PM
i think if the shot is a non lethal hit there is already alot of pain and maybe the sharp back will alow this arow to pull out easier than with out
Title: Re: Rear Cutting Edges of Broadhead
Post by: ChuckC on November 16, 2008, 08:44:00 PM
I think there is less pain than we sometimes give it credit for, unless bones are broken.
ChuckC