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Title: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Ontario Longbow on October 25, 2008, 06:56:00 PM
Just got back for the annual Catskills bowhunt with my hunting partner Theo. He had an awesome week taking three deer,, I on the other hand missed a slam dunk on a small buck and had a doe at 5 yards that never presented a shoot.

This year we have been experimenting with weight forward and heavier arrows combined with a single bevel broadhead .We both average 10 yard shots and limit our long shoots to 20 yards. Theo is shooting a 54 @ 29 Widow PMAX and a 1000g arrow (985g) , 350 carbon express heritage, 145 single bevel eclipse, 125 steel adaptor and 100g brass insert and 8 gpi weight tubes. (Theo is the designer and developer of the original Canadian Journeyman and helped the Eclipse boys with their tooling). Theo took this doe , pass through both sholders,, went 40 yards
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/4297432frank/NY2008008.jpg)

He them took this nice Catskill buck, shot a little high and dropped him with a spine shoot:
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/4297432frank/NY2008031.jpg)

He tried to put another arrow into the downed buck but he caught the leg as the deer lifted it as he shoot,, note incredable bone split:
 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v359/4297432frank/NY2008039.jpg)

Dr. Ashby thanks so much for your reseach in helping all bowhunters!!


Frank
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Kingwouldbe on October 25, 2008, 07:06:00 PM
Right on, great work    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: LONGHORN on October 25, 2008, 07:15:00 PM
Congrats to you guys and thanks for sharing    :thumbsup:    :campfire:    :archer:
Serge
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: 3dmuzzy on October 25, 2008, 07:18:00 PM
man you guys did well...ED
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: deermaster1 on October 25, 2008, 07:24:00 PM
cant deny a heavy arrow is hard to stop!  congrats on the clean kills!
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Pat B. on October 25, 2008, 09:49:00 PM
Great work with the heavy arrows and single bevel eclipes..

I have to ask, what are the woods in the Widow ?
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: vermonster13 on October 25, 2008, 09:54:00 PM
Nice job!
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Matty on October 25, 2008, 10:00:00 PM
Uhhhhhh....370 Grains up front?  Are those full length?  Good Job by the way!
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: ozy clint on October 25, 2008, 11:20:00 PM
bet those deer didn't hear that bow! well done
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Soilarch on October 26, 2008, 12:10:00 AM
I always claimed curiosity as a vice...

...so how fast does a 54# BW throw a 1000gr arrow?

130...150?
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: wtpops on October 26, 2008, 12:17:00 AM
If you ask me, a 54# BW, 1000grain arrow= about 150fps going in a deer and 150 fps exiting a deer  :D
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on October 26, 2008, 12:55:00 AM
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Rico on October 26, 2008, 04:33:00 AM
Very Interesting thanks for posting
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Chris Surtees on October 26, 2008, 05:01:00 AM
Congrats!!! Looks I you two had a great time.
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: non-typical on October 26, 2008, 05:18:00 AM
Congrats on the harvest Frank but geeze, talk about overkill!
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: vtmtnman on October 26, 2008, 06:34:00 AM
No wonder you busted that leg bone so easy with a 1000 gr arrow LOL..

Great harvests guys,congrats.
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Brian P. on October 26, 2008, 09:07:00 AM
I see the steel broadhead adapter appears to have broken as well. Cant see any threads in the pic. Is that true?

Looks like the eclipse held up remarkably well after hitting the bone to. Trying the double bevels this year myself.

BP
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Sharpster on October 26, 2008, 11:38:00 AM
QuoteOriginally posted by wtpops:
If you ask me, a 54# BW, 1000grain arrow= about 150fps going in a deer and 150 fps exiting a deer   :D  
That's probably pretty close!  :biglaugh:

Ron
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: George D. Stout on October 26, 2008, 01:01:00 PM
I hope your friend didn't intentionally aim for those shoulders.  The head and arrow seemed to perform well, but I do hope it isn't making people disregard being selective about their shots.  Nice deer.
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Ontario Longbow on October 26, 2008, 01:07:00 PM
Hey George good point,, Theo wasn't aiming for shoulder blades,, just showing what can happen with a good set-up if you do happen to hit bone,,

All the best,,Frank
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: turkey522 on October 26, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
Congrats, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Gumby on October 26, 2008, 09:23:00 PM
Congrats Theo....
Darcy
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: Doc Nock on October 27, 2008, 08:04:00 PM
QuoteOriginally posted by Ontario Longbow:
Hey George good point,, Theo wasn't aiming for shoulder blades,, just showing what can happen with a good set-up if you do happen to hit bone,
I get confuddled at times reading guy's posts, but wasn't that Doc Ashby's point of his research on the single bevel, tanto point etc?

That when/if something DOES go wrong in the field...hedge your bet for the best penetration and bone handling possible to err on the positive side to ensure critter recovery?  :D  

I can see that 1000 gr. arrow moving slow enough out of my low poundage bow that I might could run along side and correct it's flight for a perfect shot...  :jumper:  but the outcome sure is impressive!
Title: Re: Single bevel and the 1000g arrow on deer
Post by: bentpole on October 27, 2008, 08:07:00 PM
Ahhh the Catskills. I like the Catskills. Looks like you folks had a great time too.