Trad Gang

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I would say thats just about as good as it gets. Thats an awesome picture.

that's where it should be...   great shot and .. great shot
ChuckC

that pics been around the emails latley, the first one I saw wasnt very good. probably photoshop job, but none the less a good shot and a cool looking pic!

WOW great pick send that to cuddeback.

Photoshop

he's not going far

doug77

Priceless picture!! Thats too cool!!

Hey guy's without wanting to stir up a bee's net here and for sure not wanting to try and rob anyone of a great pic.I was sent that pic about one week ago.And a friend whom is far better with computers then I was visiting. He mentioned he thought it was a photo-shop job rather then the real thing.He is also a very long time bowhunter and kind of wonderd why the arrow is not broken with the leg flexing that much.....I'am not sure myself but cool pic just the same....bowdoc

Unbelievable photo!  I was just wondering the other day if anyone has ever caught a shot deer on camera.  Thanks for answering my question.

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picture that deer laying dead on the ground, now phto shop it a bit.

Looks like an arrow from a compound to me - carbon with vanes and not much penetration.

AdkmKen you know now that you mention it.I think your right..His ears are down almost flat...looks kind of dead..again not sure myself....but ???? able..bowdoc

seen that pic on bunch of other sites. It is incredible!
someone would have to put in some good photoshop work to make that, if its not real.

its quite a pic either way     :)

Not trying to stir it but that looks like corn in the lower right corner.  Is that legal and where?  What do ya'll think of the ethics of it?  I don't consider deer feral animals.

Ray

i bate my deer with corn to me theres no differance than that or going seting over a acorn tree or a food plot its all hunting!

I don't care if it's a photoshop pic it's cool

Don't know if it's the light from the flash if there was one,but his eyes look like he's dead to me.But it is a kool picture.

I believe it is real, whoever got the photo was set up over a feeder of some sort and the camera was set up facing the bait. The camera was most likely on video mode and the pic. was lifted from that. I have Stealth cam that does video and it is set up on a creek crossing. I have a great video of a fawn in jumping off the bank and landing in the creek. I am sure if I knew what I was doing I could freeze it while she was in mid-air and lift that as a photo and post it here. Shawn

its real.  it was taken with a cuddeback, and the person (i believe it was a young boy) shot it as it passed his trail cam.  he sent the pic to cuddeback, and they told him they would love to use it to demonstrate how fast there trigger time was, but was to graphic to use for magezines.  the deer was shot with a compound bow, using a rage, hence the huge amount of blood.

btw, the dude who made a comment about the compound "carbon arrow with little penatration" should take a close look. the deer is bleeding out the other side as well.  there is no way someone could say this is photoshopped, if they would just look at some details, rather than try to disprove it...

QuoteOriginally posted by deermaster1:
btw, the dude who made a comment about the compound "carbon arrow with little penatration" should take a close look. the deer is bleeding out the other side as well, meaning full pentatration.  there is no way someone could say this is photoshopped, if they would just look at some details, rather than try to disprove it...

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well i tried to edit my second post, and ended up quoted myself and making a blank post. soory about that, im not sure how to delete a post...

@deermaster1:  Ah, but Photoshoppers revel in the details!  They spend hours on things no one else would ever notice.  They're insane in that aspect.  :p   I'm not necessarily saying that it's a Photoshopped picture though - just that it's possible to do so.

Regardless, this is definitely a cool picture, Photoshopped or not.

66#@29''  That Arrow Should be Stickin In The Ground !!

Not a snowballs chance in **** that pic is real.
Ears flopped down.  Not a single muscle taut.  Belly sagging.  Dead eyes.  Neck layed out.  That blood is splattering above the wound.  THe deer must be on it's way down.  Hows that deer gonna land?  Next pic should've shown the deer faceplanting into the ground. Nice touch to pull the tail out for the photo though.

i thought you should see EVERY muscle in that deer ripple with a hit and a jump like that. definitly a "dead" eye if you ask me. i had the same thought on the tail.

There is blood on the opposite leg and another deer in the top left corner. Looks like the camera caught the buck after it was hit running from the bait pile. Tail is blurred in motion also so I'd say it's real, too many details. Does look like a compound shot though.

Oops didn't see there was a page two when I posted. lol

If it is real, great, but......I have serious doubts.

I first saw that picture in an email and you could plainly see the trees and sky through the deer's body.  I see where some say that 'ghosting' like that is common in trail camera photos.  ??

I have taken thousands of 35mm and digital pictures and have never had one 'ghost' like that.

If the deer had jumped when shot it would have taken approximately 1/2 second for it to reach that height and I have never seen a deer or any animal exude that amount of blood in that short span of time, no matter what size broadhead.  Zoom in on the picture and you can see blood on the back of the left front hoof, dried blood on the right front leg, and the splatter on the deer's side looks dried and brown.

I say again that it is a cool photoshop image.  Dead deer laying on the ground and superimposed on the cuddeback image.

QuoteOriginally posted by Aeronut:
If it is real, great, but......I have serious doubts.

I first saw that picture in an email and you could plainly see the trees and sky through the deer's body.  I see where some say that 'ghosting' like that is common in trail camera photos.  ??

I have taken thousands of 35mm and digital pictures and have never had one 'ghost' like that.

If the deer had jumped when shot it would have taken approximately 1/2 second for it to reach that height and I have never seen a deer or any animal exude that amount of blood in that short span of time, no matter what size broadhead.  Zoom in on the picture and you can see blood on the back of the left front hoof, dried blood on the right front leg, and the splatter on the deer's side looks dried and brown.

I say again that it is a cool photoshop image.  Dead deer laying on the ground and superimposed on the cuddeback image.

I think this is the image you speak of.
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Yep.  That be the one.

Dennis

AdamH.....My 66@29 didn't shoot that deer

o,yea!!  :p

I use Photoshop all the time, I was a professional photographer for a long time, question for you, look closely at the deer, why can you see skyline all the way through the deer.  Dead giveaway, because the two shutter speeds, and also the apertures, were different when two photos were taken, and then sandwiched together.  it's the hardest thing to cover up when your are using photoshop, with two different densities of exposures.

I know that you don't know me, but I have worked with photo shop for over 15 years.  And this photo was done in photoshop 7, a newer version would have taken out that skyline and would have done a better job.  If it was not too different exposures, you would have the upper body totally blurred because of the motion.  And the strength of a flash on a normal trail camera would not have been able to stop the motion.

As far as a compound shot, that's just a dumb statement.  You can see that the arrow was behind the shoulder, it is angled towards the other shoulder blade, chances are it hit a shoulder bone on the other side, but like someone said, there's blood on the other leg, either the deer did some fancy acrobatics.  Or that shot went all the way through to where the Brodhead is sticking out the other side.

Funny somebody didn't say " it's a low poundage traditional bow" wonder why.  Not defending compound bows, but they are just people with different equipment, using one bow or another doesn't make us " better ".

Let's think before we say things about those that are " hunters also" if we don't stick together, it won't be good for either of us.

By the way the second thing that gives away the photoshop, is the difference in the grain, on the deer vs. the forest.  The grain on the deer is tight, and the grain on the grass directly under the deer is not, dead giveaway also.  A third thing, there is no shadow, and there would be some type of shadow if that was a single photo.  And why is the blood pattern going up, instead of down as the deer goes up ?

Having said all that, I will tell you, I've been wrong before, but on this one has too many questions.

But also, like someone said " photosop or not cool photo"


Carl

That's amazing!

I think DeerSpotter has Spottered the flaw in the plan..

"why can you see skyline all the way through the deer"

iv seen a few trail cam pics blur or ghost like that Carl

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ray_G:
Not trying to stir it but that looks like corn in the lower right corner.  Is that legal and where?  What do ya'll think of the ethics of it?  I don't consider deer feral animals.

Ray

In many states it is legal to use some sort of food for bait for deer.  I am not sure about the state in which this picture is taken, but I know here in NJ it is a leagal means of attracting deer.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ray_G:
Not trying to stir it but that looks like corn in the lower right corner.  Is that legal and where?  What do ya'll think of the ethics of it?  I don't consider deer feral animals.

Ray

In many states it is legal to use some sort of food for bait for deer.  I am not sure about the state in which this picture is taken, but I know here in NJ it is a leagal means of attracting deer. [/b]

Yep, up til this year it's been legal here in MI with some restriction as to amount and dispersement.  It's now been banned in lower MI but is still legal in the upper peninsula.

I think the pic is a fake.    The edges of the deer are too clean like it was cut and pasted.   The deer seem like its in a odd position.  The eyes looked fogged and you can see a faint white outline/border around some of the edges. Etc, etc.

Never seen a deer take flight to that extent after a shot. This one appears to be about 5ft off the ground, pasted picture of a dead deer in my opinion.

Once again I'am gonna say...man thats a trip.   bowdoc

I'll explain the reason for the trail cameras reason for doing that.  But understand whenever our trail camera takes a photo and you see the background(all the way through the object) is because of the aperture that is used, I will explain it in this way.

This past weekend I was saying in a ground blind, it was made up of thistles that were about four and half feet high, I got settled and and realized I could not see the corn that I was setting up on, but when I took my binoculars 10X42, the thistles disappeared looking through the binoculars, that's because they were close to me, and lens and binoculars defused the thistles.  After that I could see definite path through the thistles that allowed me see if a deer was going one way or another.

It's the same with the lens on a trail camera, but the difference between playing two photos together is that you'll see just the highlights, like the photo that you gave as an example, you can see completely through the antlers, not so when you sandwich of photos together.

I have to quit this, I'll end up going back to my old business, that's a scary thought.

Dealing with the old Cinderella attitude, those brides have to be perfect for one day !  Don't want that again.  Maybe I'll take up nature photography, naaaa.

No doubt it is a neat idea for photo fun.  But realistically, the photos that most you guys hang onto, are the ones you missed !  They are memories forever, and you take the shot over, and over, and over in your mind.  Those are the best ones.


Carl

makes sense on the blurring Carl thanks, good explanation.

i know a lot of photographers quit doing wedding shoots for the same reason you mentioned...and i don't blame you   :D  

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I think it is real.
Look at his tail. It has a moshion blur.
Also it looks like the camera flashed and the lvl. of the flash are all equal in the picture.
And yes it looks like he is shooting over a pile of corn.

Also questions. If he was dead when they took the picture. Would there be more of blood running straight down or towards the rear of the deer? Looks to me like the blood shows that he was just shot because there is very little. Also the arrow is just in the front leg, in the flap of meat. If he ran a ways would it have torn more and opened up?

:rolleyes:    

Here is the same picture before it was cleaned up with Photo Shop

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/trailcampic.jpg)

Photoshopped, no doubt in my mind.