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Title: your opinion needed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on October 20, 2008, 08:48:00 PM
If you could buy a carbon shaft that was near indestructible, and heavy (15 gr/inch on a .500 spine,up to about 22 grs per inch on a .300 spine), would you consider buying/using them?
Your honest feedback would be appreciated.
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Post by: leewillis92 on October 20, 2008, 08:55:00 PM
I personally like woods.  So no, but sounds good for the carbon shooters.
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Post by: Guru on October 20, 2008, 08:58:00 PM
I prefer a light, stiff shaft so I can weigh it up on the front end...so no for me.....
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Post by: heydeerman on October 20, 2008, 09:00:00 PM
I would consider it.
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Post by: Soilarch on October 20, 2008, 09:08:00 PM
You MIGHT get more interest from a normal gpi carbon shaft that was sold pre-footed with internal inserts.  Not tapered so they could still be cut down from the back end.

That puts you in the market of a high gpp, "indestructable", high FOC arrow that can be bought off the rack.


To directly answer you question, no.  I have a hard enough time getting my FOC to what I feel is acceptable...let alone what I'd like.  Heavy shafts would make it that much harder.
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Post by: Matt D. on October 20, 2008, 09:12:00 PM
I'd welcome any new carbon shaft that's tough, but those weights with the broadheads I shoot would make the arrows heavier than I would like.
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Post by: Widowbender on October 20, 2008, 09:15:00 PM
I also like light stiff arrows with a lot of tip weight...

David
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Post by: vermonster13 on October 20, 2008, 09:30:00 PM
I would like a 500 that weighed 15gpi.
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Post by: bowmofo on October 20, 2008, 09:54:00 PM
YES!   :archer:
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Post by: DEAN on October 20, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
YES I WOULD
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Post by: indianalongbowshooter on October 20, 2008, 10:05:00 PM
No, light shaft heavy tip for me..
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Post by: Gatekeeper on October 20, 2008, 10:08:00 PM
Too heavy for me
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Post by: Ian johnson on October 20, 2008, 11:04:00 PM
yes
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Post by: mmgrode on October 20, 2008, 11:19:00 PM
I'd be interested!,  though I wouldn't mind "cheap" being added to that list of describers;)
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Post by: Crash on October 20, 2008, 11:23:00 PM
No kidding on the cheap part.  I think due to Dr. Ashby, the current trend is as much weight up front.  If the arrow were that heavy thruout, it would be too heavy for most once they weighted the tip for the EFOC.
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Post by: Arrow Slinga on October 20, 2008, 11:31:00 PM
I like'em light and stiff with a loaded tip for me.
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Post by: Over&Under on October 21, 2008, 04:46:00 AM
I might give them a try, but they might be a bit heavy for my setup.
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Post by: Stone Knife on October 21, 2008, 05:17:00 AM
I like my weight up front because I'm shooting a 45# bow I don't like them to heavy, so no for me.
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Post by: SteveB on October 21, 2008, 07:06:00 AM
Not for me.
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Post by: MI_Bowhunter on October 21, 2008, 07:11:00 AM
I would try it.
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Post by: LHA on October 21, 2008, 08:44:00 AM
Yes
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Post by: BobW on October 21, 2008, 08:53:00 AM
now, if they came 35" long......
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Post by: b.glass on October 21, 2008, 09:01:00 AM
At one time I would say "yes!". But since finding out that I can get all the weight I want (and then some) by putting the extra wt. up front, I don't need the heavier shafts.
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Post by: Steertalker on October 21, 2008, 11:17:00 AM
Waaaay too heavy!

Brett
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Post by: beachbowhunter on October 21, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
Not for me.
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Post by: Curtiss Cardinal on October 21, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
I'd be very interested. At 15 grains per inch that's a 450 grain shaft (30" BOP)if you front loaded it up to 400 grains you'd have an 850 grain arrow which would be roughly 13 grains per pound of draw weight for a 65# bow. That should still have the speed required to have all the momentum neccasary to have an arrow pass through any critter. So I don't know why everyone is saying "way too heavy" and such.
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Post by: Shawn Leonard on October 21, 2008, 07:56:00 PM
Nope, as most said, I like to load them up front. I can shoot a .350 spine out of my 50-54# bows and use 375 up front for perfect flight. Shawn
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Post by: mooseman76 on October 21, 2008, 07:59:00 PM
I'd like a 15 gpi .500 shaft as well...Mike
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Post by: Matty on October 21, 2008, 08:16:00 PM
It really depends on how they flew. That is Really Heavy which I like , but I would be worried about comprimised flight.  Send me some if you get them going I'll test them!!   :goldtooth:
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Post by: Son of Texas on October 21, 2008, 08:23:00 PM
I would say yes.
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Post by: WESTBROOK on October 21, 2008, 08:53:00 PM
Yes, I think I would.

Only if you make a few looooonger ones for BobW.

Eric
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Post by: drewsbow on October 21, 2008, 09:01:00 PM
nope
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Post by: Dave Bulla on October 22, 2008, 01:55:00 AM
I'd be willing to try 'em.  And I'll third the "long" request.

I think for whitetails, they might be overkill but for larger, dangerous game, or something like hogs they'd be great.

If I buy a dozen will you pay for me to go try them on Alaska moose????  :bigsmyl:
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Post by: Bowspirit on October 22, 2008, 02:43:00 AM
I'm betting you're talking about the GrizzlyStik  Wood shafts. Look pretty interesting...but like some already said, I'm looking for more weight on the front end of my shafts, so I prefer a somewhat lighter shaft...
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Post by: hunt it on October 22, 2008, 09:40:00 AM
My thought as well, Grizzly Stick Woodies. Sound good but my concern is strength. It's my understanding that the manufacturer will say that the Alaskans and Safari shafts are still alot stronger than these new ones. I like the weight in the shaft but strength/durability is my # concern when paying big bucks for shafts.
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Post by: LeeNY on October 22, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
At 15 grain per inch with a 29" bare shaft that would make a 435 grain shaft with a 125 grain point a 20 grain insert plus a 30 grain adapter. Lets not forget fletching and nock 20 grains + or - That make around a 630 - 640 grain arrow and correct me if I'm wrong. Wouldn't that be like an ash arrow. Put me down for a couple of dozen!!!
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Post by: BobW on October 22, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
I'll comment further.  My 34" Douglas Fir & Walnut shafts are 825g with a 145g point (yep, thats 24.3 gpi).  You still aren't scaring me off, so they could be interesting.....
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Post by: pseman on October 22, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
I would say YES. But if they are $100++ per dozen, then I would say NO.