Ok say you wanted to hunt 100% trad sometimes maybe not all the time but for fun ive been kicking it around. The whole nine yards....flint points(is that even legal in Alabama),homemade shafts,all wood bow.What was the string made of ...sinew?
Post pics of your 100% trad setup.
Can someone give me some insight on this?
Matt
Beyond trad, primitive.
Killdeer :coffee:
I think you are luckily enough in one of very few states that allow that.
If I remember correctly you can even atlatl hunt in alabama.
swamp pygmy, flint points are legal here too
So you can hunt with flint points in Alabama?
Any pics of a primitive setup?
yes you can and swamp pygmy was correct that we can also atlatl hunt here, even saw a guy once toting his spear to hunt hogs
Does anyone here hunt 100% primitive?
A guy down in ELberta Al(Baldwin Co) hunts with a cold steel spear. He has a book out but I don't know the name of it right now.
I have made and hunted with osage selfbows and even tried once to make a point.I lost a lot of blood on that deal. i enjoy shooting osage bows but spinning my own shafts and sinew feathers sounds cool but I really like fletch tape.
kirk
Ian are you sure? I thought I saw you had to use a steel head with two cutting blades and a certain width?
is that just for deer?
does this count as 100% primitive? i know the knocks are not antler (next batch will be for sure) but everything else is hand made by me! so maybe 99%
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j246/pintail_drake2004/P9262490.jpg)
Hey thats nice kill anything with that setup yet?
Matt
My set up this year is a 60" osage static recurve self bow with cherry bark backing that bends through the handle(47#@26"), a 64" yew selfbow that bends through the handle(46#@26"), hill cane arrows with stone points(obsidian and Texas chert) and a modified 2 fletch with turkey feathers. Points are hafted with pitch glue and sinew wrap and the feathers are tied with sinew and sinew wrapped self nocks. All sinew is sealed with homemade pitch varnish.
I can e-mail pics to you if you would like. I don't have photobucket. Pat
Pintail Drake, that is classy gear! Hat's off to you!
Cool! Keep those pics coming!!
What are self nocks?
Self nocks are cut directly into the shaft instead of added on to it. Generally they should be reinforced with a wrap set in glue or a spine of wood, bone, ivory or rawhide inserted perpendicular to the nock. Pat
When I can knapp a suitable point I too shall go primative.
Hey bail you are right talk to a gamewarden today stone points legal in Alabama.
One of the things the indians used to make strings was groundhog hide. Neat process to make. Can't remember where I watched the video but they would heat it in ashes of hardwood(to take the fur off) and take a hatchett and slice it until they had strips. They would then braid the strips together. Never tried it but looks neat.
Hey thats cool! Can you make a bow string out of art. sinew?
Matt
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The string is dacron and it is bamboo backed which I don't consider 100% primitive otherwise, the arrows and quiver ARE 100% primitive.
Hey bglass nice !! Who made the bow?
No good pic of the bow and arrow........but this home made clovis point was shot on a home made wood arrow (to which it was hafted with sinew from a deer I shot) from a 67# home made osage selfbow with a home made linen string. The deer only made it 20-30 yards after a shot through both lungs and the point lodged in the off shoulder (thats how it broke loose).
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b36/flntknp17/Picture163.jpg)
Matt
WOW!!!!! That is one nice clovis!! I use to have some authentic cunberland and clovis points they were pretty beat up and some were restored but they were authentic,like an idiot i sold them. :-(
I made the bow, arrows and quiver.
Thats awesome glass! Great pic!
Thank you Sir!
i just cant seem to connect with my trad setup. Everytime i went scouting i had deer not more than 10' from my stand, when i take my trad gear they are way past 30yds at least. I guess im gonna have to change my game plan, cuz im running outta time here!
I plan on making a dozen cedar arrows with flint heads here soon. I found a nice stand of arrow wood (Viburnum dentatum) the other day while i was hunting on public land. may have to go check some of that out.
That brings up another question. Is the total primitive setup limit you on range? With a 40 or 50# bow with stone points effective out to 30 yds or is it a more inside 20 yds type setup?
Matt
I like to shoot at game at 'point on' distance or less. With the light poundage bow above, I prefer to shoot 15 yds or less. But it is only about 38#. With my glass bow and heavier arrows I would shoot out to 20 yds.
Here's what I could find on Louisiana archery hunting:
L. ARCHERY SEGMENT: Still hunting only Oct. 1-Jan. 31 in all deer hunting areas, EXCEPT Areas 3
and 8 where the season will be Sept. 20 - Jan. 15, and Area 6 where the season will be Oct. 1-15 for bucks
only and Oct. 16 - Feb. 15 for either-sex. WMA seasons are the same as outside except as noted below. An
archery license is required for resident bow hunters between the ages of 16 and 59 inclusive and nonresidents
16 years of age and older. Either-sex deer may be taken in all areas open for deer hunting EXCEPT
when a bucks only season is in progress for gun hunting and EXCEPT in Area 6 from Oct. 1-15. In such
cases, archers must conform to the bucks only regulations. Either-sex deer may be taken on WMAs at
anytime during archery season EXCEPT when bucks only seasons are in progress on the respective WMA.
Also, archery season restricted on Atchafalaya Delta, Salvador, Lake Boeuf and Pointe-aux-Chenes WMAs.
(See WMA for details).
Bow and Arrow Regulations: Longbow, compound bow and crossbow or any bow drawn, held or released
by mechanical means will be a legal means of take for all properly licensed hunters. Bow and arrow
fishermen must have a sport fishing license and not carry any arrows with broadhead points unless
a big game season is in progress.
IT IS UNLAWFUL:
1. To carry a gun including those powered by air or other means while hunting with bow and arrow
during the special bow and arrow deer season EXCEPT, it is lawful to carry a .22 caliber rimfire pistol
loaded with #12 shot (ratshot) only.
2. To have in possession or use any poisoned or drugged arrow or arrows with explosive tips.
3. To hunt deer with a bow having a pull less than 30 pounds.
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For the latest hunting season updates, visit our website:
www.wlf.louisiana.gov (http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov)
4. To hunt with a bow or crossbow fitted with an infrared, laser sight, electrically operated sight or
device specifically designed to enhance vision at night (does NOT include non-projecting red dot
sights; RS 56:116.1.(b)(4)).
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Man now thats a nice setup you got!! Who made the bow?
SirRobin, I made the bow. It's a Hard Maple
47 @ 29 66" In length.
thanks george. I had read that but was almost positive you had to hunt with steel points here.
Ian has got me doubting now, I'll have to ask a game warden.
Swamp Pygmy, The law was changed in 2006. The word metal was dropped from the description of legal broadhead to reflect the change.