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Title: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: jcprintz on October 10, 2008, 11:02:00 AM
I was drawn for a Bear Permit in Maryland . The season opens on the 20th.
My dilemma is which broadhead to use. Razorcap or Stinger 4 blade.
I'm shooting a 58" double carbon centaur longbow 53# at my draw with carbon express arrows 100 grain insert and 125 grain head equalling 550 grains total. Both the Razorcaps and Stingers shoot great. I've never shot a bear so I'm torn as to whether I should go for more penetration  (Stinger) or bigger hole (Razorcap). I'm leaning heavily toward the razorcaps but would like the opinion of the Trad Gang.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: Cory Mattson on October 10, 2008, 11:05:00 AM
razorcaps
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: beachbowhunter on October 10, 2008, 11:22:00 AM
Razorcaps and Stingers are my main broadheads too. For bear I would go with Razorcaps because penetration is not a problem. This is what they do to bears....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/beachbowhunter/Alberta%20Bear%20Hunt/easter2006022.jpg)
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: p1choco on October 10, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: wtpops on October 10, 2008, 11:51:00 AM
Razorcap, i say this with out ever using the Stingers but i do like my Razorcap
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: O.L. Adcock on October 10, 2008, 11:54:00 AM
Razorcaps...This one was taken with a Snuffer from a 45ish# bow, 10 yard shot, 12 yard run. They aren't hard to penetrate..O.L.


(http://www.bowmaker.net/images/02bear.jpg)
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: FerretWYO on October 10, 2008, 11:58:00 AM
I dont think you can go wrong with either. I am a stinger 4 blade fan myself. As OL said they are not hard to penatrate.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: Gordon martiniuk on October 10, 2008, 03:49:00 PM
I have taken bear with Snuffers hands down nasty big hole short blood trails and good flight why ask for more oh yea make sure they ar scarry sharp good luck!
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: ron w on October 11, 2008, 07:52:00 PM
The best one is the one that flies true and is sharp,sharp, did I mention sharp. Good luck and pick a spot in all that black.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: Chimaster on October 11, 2008, 10:28:00 PM
I've taken many bears with a 160gr snuffer on cedar shafts. A snuffer leaves a monster hole. Roger knew what he was doing when he invented that head.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: John3 on October 11, 2008, 10:46:00 PM
black bears are not thick skinned.. Any sharp broadhead that will kill a deer will kill a bear. Shot placement is very important... I've seen too many wounded bears never recovered.  guy's get excited and don't wait for the right angle. Only shoot broadside or slight quartering. Single lung hit bears will NOT be recovered. Take your time and good shooting.

Mid body 8" circle behind the shoulder equals dead bear everytime.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: Curveman on October 12, 2008, 07:39:00 AM
Any broadhead you would use on a deer. If the bear is broadside let him move that shoulder blade forward thus opening up the vital area more before shooting.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: wingnut on October 12, 2008, 07:56:00 AM
Imagine a volleyball suspended between the bears elbows.  Pop the ball and you have a bear.  They are thin skinned and pretty easy to kill.  Go with the bigger head if it flys good.  A big hole on both sides is a very good thing.

I used to run a bear outfit in Washington and saw too many poorly hit bears not recovered.  Pratice your shot, Wait for your shot, execute the shot that you practiced.

Good luck,

Mike
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: jcprintz on October 13, 2008, 08:37:00 AM
Thanks guys for all the information and encouragement. I've settled on the Razorcaps. Been touching them up this weekend and now have no hair on my arm.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: vermonster13 on October 13, 2008, 08:53:00 AM
Good luck!
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: JoeM on October 13, 2008, 08:59:00 AM
Give us an update after the hunt!!  Maybe some nice pics with a big bear on the ground.  Joe
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: Don Thomas on October 13, 2008, 09:13:00 AM
As others have said, shot placement is more important than broadhead choice. Nothing goes down quicker than a perfectly hit bear. Nothing is harder to recover than one that is hit any other way. Bears are thin-skinned... but they have heavy bones and it's easy to nick a bit of the scapula hidden beneath all that black hair. (It's much harder to visualize the anatomy on a bear than a deer.) For that reason, I opt for broadheads that penetrate and prefer 2-blade heads. Of course, this is an old argument we won't settle today... cheers, Don
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: d. ward on October 13, 2008, 09:25:00 AM
Pratice pratice pratice....as mentioned shot placement is key to harvesting any critter...Any good shooting sharp broadhead will do the job quickly.Good luck and keep us posted on how it's going.bowdoc
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: flyfish1 on October 13, 2008, 11:27:00 AM
I prefer three blade heads also, and as others have said focus on sharp heads and shot placement.
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: Brian Krebs on October 13, 2008, 03:47:00 PM
sharp sharp sharp !!!
Title: Re: Going Bear Hunting and have broadhead dilemmae
Post by: jcprintz on October 13, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
I'll be hunting very near where the 615lb state record was killed last year. Gary Iden (a trad shooter from way back) has been kind enough to guide me on this hunt. I will definetly send in an update and  pictures when I get back. Hopefully there will be a bear in one of them with me.
Thanks again for all the advice and whishes of good luck.