I bare shaft tuned and got an arrows to fly perfect.... After a couple days my forearm really was tore up so I put on an armguard. Well immediately I started shooting arrows to the left... Especially broadheads... Went back and bareshaft tuned and arrows were stiff... Took the arm guard off and bare shafted again, Bingo.. Lasers... Shot a fletched arrow without the arm guard and perfect. Arm guard on and to the left and down we go...
I moved my brace height out to 8' ... Should only be 7 1/4 max (manufacturer says)...
Any suggestions? It is 64' longbow/ ACS CX... Awesome bow, I really want to shoot it but I'm at a loss...
Only explanation I have is my forearms are a little big from the competitive powerlifting days, but what should I do? Any help appreciated...
The string slapping your armguard is kicking the string/arrow nock to the right thus throwing the point end of your arrow over to the left. Try gripping your handle firmer to prevent your bow from torquing. -ART B
Steve I have the same exact problem. When it doesnt hit my armguard they are like lasers like you said.
Art thanks I will give that a try.
Shawn
Put a little more bend in your bow arm and, or rotate your wrist arm a little away from the string.
Steve I had two ACS CX same thing, I shot them very well but I had to hold them like it had a low grip, and just put my finger tips on the front of the riser,they are real shooters, But as Larry from A&H told me they are like a high end race cars, you have to do everything right.
I'm shooting Morrisons know, Bob makes a little better low grip riser for me and the speed is about the same. I'm waiting to see if A&H comes out with some new risers. :thumbsup:
I do hold it low wrist also, but can't keep it from tearing me up??? I'll try somemore... Thanks...
Same here.. low wrist.
Are you "palming" the bow? My longbows I hold like I point... Meaning the side of the handle with my fingers curled back at my like they do when "pointing"... Also could be your feet. Open your stance. If your right handed open your left foot a bit forward and to the left.
Good shooting.
John III
Can you open your stance to get rid of the string slap? I think I would try this before I change the way I grip the bow...
Happy hunting,
Jason
I have my friends new acs here and I have been playing around with it for a few weeks. It definitely isn't the easiest bow to master and it's a bit testy. I've always shot longbows or hybrids with a low brace height but with this bow I set it at 7 3/4" and it tamed it down a bit. I think you need really stiff arrows and just dedicate yourself to this one bow and I'm sure you can master it.
Grip it like a recurve. If you shoot them low wrist you will get slap. I shoot them with a high wrist just griping with my thumb and finger, no slap. worked for me
i agree w danny. the acs has to be held like a recurve. although it is a longbow it prefers to be shot out of the web of the hand, not off of the palm. i use a medium high grip and when things are going south on me it is always my grip that is to blame. too much of it , palming, torquing etc... in my opinion that bow wants to be shot w a light touch not a firm grip like other longbows.
I would check the bow's brace height. Raising the brace height may stop the slap.
One way to know how a bow should be gripped is to balance the bow on your finger. Most long bows that I've seen the arrow shelves are set for a medium grip of about 1 1/2" above dimensional center. Say 1" above center, you would use a straight/high wrist grip. Between 1 3/4" to 2" I would consider using a low/full hand grip.
As was mentioned, bending the elbow slightly will help keep the string away from the arm. Just to see what it takes to keep the string from slapping your arm I would suggest holding the bow (with a slightly bent elbow) at arm's length with the string about an 1" to 1 1/2" from your arm guard. That will automatically set your hand position on the grip (find the proper grip for your bow as discribed avove) for you. -ART B
Same as Danny, high wrist with just thumb and forefinger. My ACS is 64" and is braced at 7 1/4.
I shoot axis arrows and have my string set up where the nock will just barely stay on with the weight of the arrow.
QuoteOnly explanation I have is my forearms are a little big from the competitive powerlifting days, but what should I do? Any help appreciated...
That is an understatement....Steve is a big fella.
My ACS works for me with the grip into the web of my hand ( no heel pressure ) and only my index finger making contact with the back of the riser.
Love this bow, I gotta figure out a way not to keep beating my arm to pieces...
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Have you tried calling the guys at A&H?? That's just sad...It seems like your wrist must be cocked to the left for that to happen.
Yeah Steve that looks terrible! I've never noticed it when you shoot but you must be rolling your wrist into the grip like Rick said for it to be hitting that close to your hand.
When I get string slap it is usually higher up on my fore-arm.
I shoot a really low wrist style... the heel of the bow rest on the exact middle of my hand at the heel of my hand... How should I hold a grip like this... I've shot longbows so long, I shoot all bows, regardless of grip the same way it seems...
I am having the exact same issue with my long bow. I can shoot my recurves with no issue ever! put a longbow in my hand and I hit my arm everytime and I cant shoot a decent group to save my life. aggravating!!
http://www.bowhunting.net/bowtube/media/79/Get_A_Grip_-_Larry_Wise/
Well, I'm no expert but I do have an ACS which has been tricky to get going (I'm at least the third owner) but it's worth the effort. I hold mine with the big knuckle at the base of my thumb at the inside corner of the arrow rest and when I draw back I feel pressure on the muscle below my thumb. I watched the video and it seems like that's what I'm doing more or less. If you mean middle of your hand to be the web that's not what I'm doing, and I'm definately not getting scraped.
Makes sense, but they are shooting a compound. I don't have a wrist sling to catch the bow after the release... My bow would fall to the ground if I held it without gripping it??? Am I correct in saying this?
I grip my bow but mainly with my pointer and middle fingers and thumb, less so with the others. You definately have to hang on to the bow..
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Makes sense, but they are shooting a compound. I don't have a wrist sling to catch the bow after the release... My bow would fall to the ground if I held it without gripping it??? Am I correct in saying this?
I see wrist slings used on the recurves at Beijing, you dont need wheels to own good shooting form...........a finger sling would probably work very well.
Good archery form is basic to shooting well, it doesn't matter what you have in your hand.
If your hitting your wrist and spraying arrows about, the problem is how your gripping the bow, and, I would wager, has nothing to do with the size of your fore arms.
In any case, by slightly curling your finger tips, this style of grip can still be used with out the worry of dropping your bow.
Where could one come by a "finger sling" ?
I have taken strips of rubber or tire inertubes cut about 3/4" to 1" wide and tide to my fingers.
I have huge Forearms myself and I find I have to rotate my hand around the grip, letting the palm swell just lay on the meaty part of my thumb on the life line.
I have a video on here, do a search under my handle in the pow wow and it's called "Critique my form" you can see how I have to rotate my grip to keep from getting eat up..LOL
Rob
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