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Title: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: 72highboy on September 25, 2008, 09:02:00 PM
Would you order a bow with green glass if it was made available again?
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: WESTBROOK on September 25, 2008, 09:18:00 PM
I would rather see ANY wood uder clear glass than see brown, black, green or any color glass. Show me the wood!

Eric
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: BobW on September 25, 2008, 09:26:00 PM
Ditto what Eric said.  Yuck!
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Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on September 25, 2008, 09:27:00 PM
I never cared for colored glass on bows
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: electric blues on September 25, 2008, 09:33:00 PM
Hell yes, that would be great. You could use a sharpie and put stripes and make an awesome camo.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: John3 on September 25, 2008, 09:34:00 PM
My Hoyt PMH has green glass. I've always wanted to "see the wood" on all the custom bows that I've ordered.

The green limbs have grown on me.. I like them.


JDS III
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: fowlarcher on September 25, 2008, 09:34:00 PM
Highboy, you know I want the (forest)green glass, but I want the glass strips. I voted 'yes' but I wouldn't order a bow as I make my own.
Anybody voting 'yes' should send an e-mail to Bingham.   http://www.binghamprojects.com/product.htm      and request green, tan, burgandy...whichever. Tell them we want more options. We're counting on Bingham to convince Gordon to produce at least some of these.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: Bjorn on September 25, 2008, 10:16:00 PM
I want wood! Even though my ACS's are black.
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Post by: Brandon Stahl on September 25, 2008, 10:42:00 PM
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Post by: Holm-Made on September 25, 2008, 11:02:00 PM
Brandon voiced my thoughts exactly.  Although I wouldn't be interrested in using the old Herter's urine yellow glass.  YUCK!  "[dntthnk]"
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: George D. Stout on September 25, 2008, 11:23:00 PM
Holm-Made,  if your urine is that color, you're getting too much vitamin B....8^).

I love the colored glass...green and gray as well as black.  It's classy and classical.  I'm growing tired of so much clear glass over wood...it's okay but after awhile they all look alike.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: fowlarcher on September 25, 2008, 11:57:00 PM
I'd like the clear glass if it was actually clear.

Brandon, I agree on the colors and you're making some of the best looking bows I've seen.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: Jacko on September 26, 2008, 07:56:00 AM
I have a lovely old Hill style bow [ Aussie Bob Wilson ] that was made in the 80's with Bubinga riser , yew laminations and green glass - it looks brilliant - as good as any clear glass / veneer bows .

Bring back green glass

regards Jacko
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: HATCHCHASER on September 26, 2008, 08:17:00 AM
I wouldn't order green glass but black glass is the best glass.  I have talked to a half dozen reputable bowyers that say black glass will give you a little more performance.  My .02.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: nybowman on September 26, 2008, 08:44:00 AM
I have an old howatt ( 1956 ) that has green glass. I love it. I've been told its called gorden glass.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: Smilingg on September 26, 2008, 08:51:00 AM
I wouldn't order it, but if a fella just craved more green in his life, I wouldn't necessarily think less of him.

Seriously, if the purpose was to camoflage a bow, I'd just comment that in my experience osage, yew, and the like all work fine without any added coloration, stripes, whirls, etc.

I used to worry about bow wood being too bright. Experience has taught me not to worry...
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: MI_Bowhunter on September 26, 2008, 09:00:00 AM
I loved the old Bear and Root bows with the grenn glass.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: MikeC on September 26, 2008, 03:27:00 PM
May not be the fanciest or the trendiest limb material out there but in my opinion hardrock maple can't be beat and covered with a colored glass particularly black makes for a simple but classic looking bow.

If a rich dark green glass were avaiable I would go for it in a heartbeat with an osage riser with the same green glass as accent stripes, will look beautiful as the osage ages.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: Cody Roiter on September 27, 2008, 06:39:00 PM
Hey Guys YES I WOULD I been making Hill style longbows and wish some one would make green glass and all the old Colors thay made.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: James Wrenn on September 28, 2008, 07:41:00 AM
Yeah, I like colored glass better than clear.I would like to see it in the darker colors instead of the washed out colors Gordon tried to introduce a few years back.I don't think that sold well at all.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: Cody Roiter on September 28, 2008, 10:40:00 AM
The way I see it is that they still make black, white and brown way not the other great colors.
Cody
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: fowlarcher on September 30, 2008, 04:45:00 PM
44% of voters like the idea of more options in colored 'E' glass. If all of us sent an e-mail to Gordon and Bingham etc. (distributors) we have a chance of getting at least a run of some other colors. That's 26 e-mails (if every one of us send one), enough to get them thinking about it. I sent one to both, but only one e-mail is easily forgotten.

http://www.binghamprojects.com/product.htm

http://www.gordoncomposites.com/contact.htm
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: 72highboy on September 30, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
I sent my emails    :)
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: Brandon Stahl on September 30, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
I also just sent an email to Elmont regarding my interest in this.  

This is Elmont's email address...  elmont@binghamprojects.com

Best regards,
Brandon
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: 72highboy on September 30, 2008, 06:52:00 PM
Sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the grease      :bigsmyl:

I promptly received an email back from Mr. Don Forrest at Gordon's and seems that if the market would bear more colors they would gladly make them.  Mr. Forrest did reiterate the point that for the factory to do it they need to make approx. 1000 pieces of any particular color.
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: Curveman on September 30, 2008, 07:05:00 PM
I passed on some better performing limbs for my recurve because they couldn't come with yew veneers. I was heartbroken! Now I am primarily shooting a glassless longbow that's a bit of a "Plain Jane" even-but it's wood!   :)
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: Brandon Stahl on September 30, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
I figured that the minimum run would probably be at least 1,000.  That's a lot of glass and a pretty big purchase for just a few guys.

I remember talking to Elmont years back (late 90's) and at that time he had just sold the last of the green glass he had.  

He mentioned then that it wasn't a very popular color and that he had the stuff for a long time before he was able to sell all of it.  I think he was glad to have gotten rid of it all the first time.

It's going to take a lot of us being interested to make this worth their while.

I don't know what the wholesale cost would be but let's say it's $6.00 a strip.  That'd be a $6,000 purchase plus freight (probably another $300 or $400?).

I currently only build about 30 bows per year with a majority of them using clear glass.  I hope to be up to 50 to 70 per year soon but that would still only be 100 to 150 strips of glass per year, with most of the bows still utilizing clear glass.  

As I mentioned before, if green was made available again, I would be interested in initially purchasing 20 to 30 strips myself.  Granted that 30 strips of a single color is quite a bit for one guy, but it's not anywhere near the 1,000 piece minimum.  

I'm really hoping that we'll see enough interest in this that they'll give it a go and run a batch of it.

Brandon
Title: Re: Would you order green glass if it was available?
Post by: fowlarcher on September 30, 2008, 08:38:00 PM
Right. This is on a scale a few bowmakers aren't going to be able to handle. It is up to the suppliers.

Seems like it wouldn't be so difficult to throw in a different color pigment in a batch of glass, but the distributors would have to have it on hand.

The sale of green etc. glass isn't going to boost sales, it would only offset from clear, black, brown. So if the suppliers are satisfied with the way things are it's same old, same old for us.