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Title: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on September 24, 2008, 07:29:00 PM
Hey Guys,

I recently shot two wild pigs that didn't have any hair.  I checked to see if I could find anything wrong with their organs, and everything seemed fine, but I'm no vet.  Anyone know why?  Is there any need for concern?  The pigs were eaten and no one loss their hair yet!    :D    

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Thanks!
Ryan
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: pronghorn23 on September 24, 2008, 08:06:00 PM
Those look like the thing in the Chupacabra video from the police car a couple weeks ago.

No idea about the loss of hair other than mange?

Congratulations on the pigs!
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on September 24, 2008, 08:13:00 PM
Yea I saw that on Nat. Geo. last month.  They had a one hour episode on that Chupacabra.  Just kind of weird.  I've been hunting pigs since high school and I've never seen anything like it. I tried to google it, but only found info on mange too.

Ryan
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: recurvist on September 24, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
When I read the topic ..I was thinkin a lice problem , after seein the pics I dont have a clue
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ray Hammond on September 24, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
I think hair on a pig is a function of environment. If its hot...maybe they don't have so much hair.

Those look to me like they have some really thin hair on them...maybe my screen or my eyes aren't what they used to be...but I dont think you have anything to worry about.

I've killed some pigs in SC that had very little hair on them.
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: beaver#1 on September 24, 2008, 08:34:00 PM
if there was a kind of infection or virus, if you cook it properly there is really nothing to worry about.  from the looks of them their bloodline has not been wild for very long, so that might have somethin to do with it
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: sabas silva on September 24, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
Ready for the pit just wash and cook
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: NightHawk on September 24, 2008, 09:42:00 PM
Mange was my first thought...congrats on your success way to go    :clapper:    :clapper:
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on September 24, 2008, 09:59:00 PM
Thanks for the info guys.

Hey Sabas, I guess that would be one less step if I decided to throw one in the imu (Hawaiian underground oven) or on the rotisserie again.  I hope I sent you the correct internet link.  Hopefully we can get together and bbq some hairless hogs.

Ryan
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Red Boar on September 24, 2008, 10:12:00 PM
Radiation?    :scared:  Congrats on your success!  Don't think it is because of heat...doesn't get much hotter than hunting here in Florida and we got no naked pigs.    ;)
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: TomMcDonald on September 24, 2008, 10:13:00 PM
Maybe they're newly introduced to the wild. Run aways from a farm or a generation down from domestic pigs.
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Bjorn on September 24, 2008, 10:51:00 PM
Your regional bioligist may be able to help.
There is a member here who goes by the handle 'Trap' and he is a Wildlife Field Biologist. Maybe you can get some info from him.
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: John3 on September 24, 2008, 10:54:00 PM
Contact your state DNR... Someone there should be able to help you.

Congrats on the hogs. Nice shooting.


JDS III
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: deadpool on September 25, 2008, 12:47:00 AM
could they be domesticated pigs that ran wild not to long ago?
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on September 25, 2008, 01:38:00 AM
I was thinking that it was because it was domectic too, and that may be the case, but these other ones that I shot seemed to have genes from a domestic pig and had hair.

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Thanks Guys!
Ryan
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on September 25, 2008, 02:30:00 AM
Nice hogs! I've not encountered any like that here, nor seen any in Aussie hunting magazines. Most of ours are black, and all are hairy!
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on September 25, 2008, 03:35:00 AM
Thanks Ben,

Yea, I'm stumped with this one!

Ryan
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Kevin Bahr on September 25, 2008, 03:46:00 AM
Ryan, maybe you can PM Jeff Springer aka: tippit
He's a veterinarian.
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Apex Predator on September 25, 2008, 05:17:00 AM
Maybe they are some of those metrosexual hogs, which have a greater concern for their hygiene/outer appearance.
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: John Scifres on September 25, 2008, 09:04:00 AM
When you find out, let me know.  I've been wondering the same thing for about 15 years.

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Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Kevin Bahr on September 25, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
HA!
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on September 25, 2008, 02:11:00 PM
I PM'd the guys you recommended.  Hopefully for John's sake they will get back to me soon real soon!   :D  

You might be on to something Apex.  They were both sows.  Maybe they are getting waxed at the local mud wallow.  It's mating season right now in Hawaii!

Ryan
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Over&Under on September 25, 2008, 04:49:00 PM
Ryan

Nice hogs indeed, I am not sure about the hair thing, or the lack therof, but what BH's are you shooting, looks like you are getting some great entrance/exit holes.

jake
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on September 25, 2008, 05:12:00 PM
Hey Jake,

Those were taken with 175 grain Razorcaps.


Ryan
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Over&Under on September 25, 2008, 06:44:00 PM
I should have known, I was using the 150 grn Razorcaps on my mule deer harvest this year, they do an excellent job!

Thanks alot
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: tippit on September 27, 2008, 05:15:00 PM
Ryan, If the skin is smooth like John's head then I wouldn't suspect an infectious condition like mange as that would cause a rash and bleeding sores from the intense itch.  Could be a hormonal condition but probably it's just genetics.  Checking with the local DNR may give you the answer.

John, Do you wax or buff that top...pretty impressive  :)   Doc
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Ryan Sanpei on September 27, 2008, 07:27:00 PM
Thanks Jeff,
Yea it didn't look like mange, and there wasn't any bleeding or sores.  I'll just assume its genetics.
I did call a few guys at our local DLNR and they didn't have any answers.

Thanks guys!
Ryan
Title: Re: Hairless Wild Hogs (anyone with info?)
Post by: Bill Turner on September 29, 2008, 01:29:00 PM
I killed a coyote like that while turkey hunting a few years back. I took it to be "mange". Might not be correct spelling. Jeff Springer should be able to help if you can catch up with him. Poor critter needed to be taken out. I did him the favor. I would not think there would be a problem eating your pigs. I would just handle them with rubber gloves and rinse the meat asap.Good shooting and keep'um sharp.